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Posted: 9/2/2005 9:16:39 AM EDT
08/30/2005

Winchester® Wins Multiple Awards for Duty and Training .223 Ammunition for the FBI

has recently won the competition for .223 duty and training ammunition for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In order to meet the tough standards established by the FBI for their duty ammunition, Winchester collaborated with Nosler® and used their outstanding .223, 60 grain Partition® Bullet. This high performance bullet coupled with Winchester's stringent loading capabilities provided the best balance between penetration, expansion and retained weight through all of the barriers in the tough FBI Barrier Testing.

The training ammunition also posed unique challenges in that it had to be completely non toxic. Winchester met this challenge with our Super Clean NT® product which features a 55 grain copper jacketed knurled tin bullet and non-toxic primer, and we met the accuracy and reliability that the FBI requires in their duty and training ammunition.

This New Winchester Ranger® Partition product will be available soon to all Law Enforcement Agencies under the symbol Q3283. The Super Clean NT jacketed tin core product is currently available under the symbol Q3262.

For more information on these products, please visit or contact:
Paul Nowak
Senior Technical Specialist
Winchester Law Enforcement Ammunition
pfnowak@olin.com

www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/ammunition/press-releases/118431/
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 6:26:24 PM EDT
looking forward to some informed replies to this.....looks interesting
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 12:58:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2005 1:37:59 AM EDT by Burnsome-]
got some in for testing. good stuff. i'll post some pictures if anybody is interested....hell, i'll post 'em even if you're not interested...

here ya go...i'll provide a "mini-review" of my experience with it if anybody is interested...







it makes my M4 happy....



burnsome.....

here's one of my favorite pics....for you in the gunsite "family" who might apreciate it...



Link Posted: 9/3/2005 6:32:46 AM EDT
deff interested in reviews.....

I am considering the 75gr TAP ammo but not totally decided yet....
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 8:16:39 PM EDT
Doesn't look like the forward portion of the bullet is bonded, think I'll pass. Thanks for the pics.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 4:01:06 PM EDT
What were those bullets fired into?
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 4:13:27 PM EDT
Burnsome, I'd like to hear your thoughts and results of your experince with this new stuff.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 12:54:52 PM EDT

What were those bullets fired into?


the two on the left were sent to me via Winchester so i dont know what they were fired into, but i would suspect gelatin since they show the expansion effect with a fairly uniform mushroom. the one on the right i fired thru a Lev IIA ballistic vest with approx 6-inches of phone books between the front and rear panels. the bullet was recovered in the dirt after penetrating both sides of the vest. i think that particular round hit a rock in the dirt and split some of the jacket material as you can see in the photograph.


Burnsome, I'd like to hear your thoughts and results of your experince with this new stuff.


you got it sir....i've fired about 100 rounds of it. it performs well in my limited experience as compared to many of those "in the know" who report on ammunition performance within these always informative forums. muzzle velocity readings so far are as follows:

LMT M4 14" 1x7 upper - 2645fps
Savage 20" 1x9 bolt action - 2685fps
ISSI 18" 1x9 douglass barreled upper - 2730fps

groups are averaging around 1.5 inches out of all platforms. i like the way it cycles my full auto guns with authority, as it has that good ol' rock & roll performance i've come to appreciate. i know the average "group" listed above doesnt meet the criteria for many who expect one-hole groups, but i'm not that good of a rifleman as compared to many, so i'm just reporting the facts as they fall out. overall, i like it.

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 2:24:13 PM EDT
Burnsome, I got me one of them E-ticket thingies too!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 2:49:51 PM EDT

Burnsome, I got me one of them E-ticket thingies too!


it's something that i'll value for the rest of my life for sure. after growing up reading just about everything Jeff Cooper wrote, then finially getting the opportunity to spend a week at Gunsite under the direction of Louis Awerbuck, and then getting to meet and talk with Jeff Cooper himself, and also getting awarded the E-ticket thingy, i could have died right then on the spot and been totally satisified with my life. most folks wouldnt understand that, but that's ok.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:40:20 PM EDT
Thanks Burnsome... hopfully Winchester will make a similar "civvy" load for the, ahem, hunters out there.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:49:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Burnsome-:

Burnsome, I got me one of them E-ticket thingies too!


it's something that i'll value for the rest of my life for sure. after growing up reading just about everything Jeff Cooper wrote, then finially getting the opportunity to spend a week at Gunsite under the direction of Louis Awerbuck, and then getting to meet and talk with Jeff Cooper himself, and also getting awarded the E-ticket thingy, i could have died right then on the spot and been totally satisified with my life. most folks wouldnt understand that, but that's ok.



I got mine from Ed Head. My brother did too, at the same time. I heard that Ed went up to the Sconce to personally tell the Colonel about that, and the Colonel was impressed

I know how you feel!
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