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Posted: 5/25/2003 9:31:35 AM EDT
I know that there are many, but I would like to put a lighter weight trigger in my Colt 6530 preban. The trigger in it is very heavy, I would say about 6-7 lbs.
I have used the JP trigger & hammer & liked it very much, it broke very cleanly at around 3.5-4 lbs.
I noticed that Jard claims to have a nice trigger also.
Any input will be appreciated.
Thanks.

Link Posted: 5/25/2003 7:27:34 PM EDT
You might also take a look at the Accuracy Speaks single-stage...
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 8:26:16 PM EDT
I like my accuracy speaks. Are you a Framer because that's what I do for a living and I too am from CO.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 5:18:59 AM EDT
Yes, I am a Framer...I live on the western slope. How about you? I will take a look at the accuracy speaks triggers. Where would be a good place to buy one?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 7:33:03 AM EDT
[img]www.brownells.com/Images/Products/054100015.jpg[/img] [url]www.accuracyspeaks.com/parts.htm[/url] or [url]www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=237[/url]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 7:58:55 AM EDT
I have a JP and like it a lot. My friend just put a Jard in his Colt. Also a very nice trigger. I have not tried the Accuracy Speaks trigger but would very much like to. I know the Accuracy speaks is the least adjustable trigger because it does not use set screws. However, I also know that because of this it is the most rugged design.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 8:05:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 8:06:58 AM EDT by inkaybee]
[b]Yes, I am a Framer...I live on the western slope. How about you?[/b] That's too bad I live on the front range. I thought maybe I had a new shoot'n budy.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:06:29 AM EDT
Hey, can I install this trigger, or do I need to have a gunsmith do it? It says minor fitting required....
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:37:36 PM EDT
You can do it yourself but it takes a little wourk and a dremal tool helps. You have to file down the rear of the trigger until the safty will engage. Then I had to file down the front of the disconector untill the sear engaged reliably when I let off the trigger. There are instructions included and many of us here can help too.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 2:22:10 PM EDT
Do any other triggers just drop in, or do they all need a little fitting & tweaking?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 3:24:57 PM EDT
How long does it take AS to deliver a trigger? Their website order form is kinda funky... it's COD right?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 3:38:56 PM EDT
Brownell's has the AS triggers in stock.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 5:30:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By new-arguy: I have a JP and like it a lot. My friend just put a Jard in his Colt. Also a very nice trigger. I have not tried the Accuracy Speaks trigger but would very much like to. I know the Accuracy speaks is the least adjustable trigger because it does not use set screws. However, I also know that because of this it is the most rugged design.
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Well, I'll be......somebody has finally found an AR "something" this guy has never tried out!
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 5:56:32 PM EDT
Accuracy Speaks Single Stage Install Question [url]http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=157604[/url] here is link to some ealse who needed help with installation.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 6:16:32 PM EDT
I use JP trigger system with thier JP Speed Hammer in my Bushmaster wiith good results. Here is info and link to them. [url]http://www.jprifles.com[/url] You have probably seen various attempts at trigger jobs onto M15 type rifles using screws through the receiver or welded on the trigger itself. Some actually feel acceptable, at least for a while. However, the sear geometry and metallurgy of the stock parts usually results in losing the sear edge and a trigger that doubles after a few hundred rounds. The JP trigger is metallurgically correct and features engagement and over travel adjustments in combination with completely re-engineered precision ground sear geometry, eliminating most of the hammer camming effect so prevalent with the original parts. Disconnector timing is correct thereby eliminating the fire on release or “doubling” problem, when properly installed. The extremely short reset of the hammer ensures a durable relationship between the parts. 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Link Posted: 5/28/2003 10:01:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/28/2003 10:04:40 AM EDT by SP10]
Originally Posted By Framer: Do any other triggers just drop in, or do they all need a little fitting & tweaking?
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I just installed a large pin Colt accurized single stage trigger in my HBAR. This is a drop-in, no fitting required, and works with the Colt sear block. I haven't measured the trigger's pull, but it is much better than the standard Colt trigger. It is no KAC trigger, but not bad. It is rated for 4.5-5lbs. I was able to do some nice offhand shooting with it on the initial range trip. Rock River and ArmaLite are also pretty much drop ins, but are 2 stage triggers. I will probably pick up a large pin Rock River trigger when I come across one. Framer, make sure you get a trigger with the proper pin size and that it is compatible with your lower, if sear blocked. I have read that not all aftermarket triggers work well with the Colt sear block.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 3:31:29 PM EDT
It is Blocked..... I guess that I should have mentioned that, but I didn't think that it mattered...
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