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Posted: 12/21/2003 9:35:19 PM EDT
Hi Guys, I'm new to the board an was hoping for some opinions. I'm going to purchase an M4 type rifle.

I've found a Colt MT6400C for $899.00
and a Bushmaster M4 for $749.99

Is the Colt worth the extra $150.00?

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas!!!
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 9:42:32 PM EDT
Ether way you have a great rifle! Can't go wrong
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 10:05:21 PM EDT
When I got my AR, one of the reasons I went with the Bushie was because it was cheaper than a Colt.  I felt like I was paying the $150-$200 extra just for the Colt name.  
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 10:28:56 PM EDT
Is the Bushmaster at $750 also a A3 (removable handle)? Last time I checked their wasn't that much difference in between the two. If you do deciede to get the Colt you won't lose any of that $150 when you sell it. The Colts keep their value well.
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 10:28:58 PM EDT
The immortal, unofficial motto of ARFCOM, Get both!
Honestly, for the price I would go Bushie.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 6:09:26 AM EDT
Get the Colt!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 6:39:32 AM EDT
Rock River Arms

http://www.adcofirearms.com/
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 7:18:39 AM EDT
COLT the MT6400
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 7:52:39 AM EDT
Bushmaster!

Does the colt have those goofy parts (Strange front take down pins and odd fire controll group pins?) Screw that! If it does go bushmaster. Go bushmaster anyway.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 9:41:29 AM EDT
What does it matter if the colt has odd sized parts?.. I keep hearing this and dont understand the logic behide it. If you can legally preform FA conversions then I guess it does matter but for 99% of us, who cares. Most after market triggers are available in non Colt and Colt sizes which is why I dont understand where you guys are coming from. Fill me in...
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 9:56:32 AM EDT
What's the twist? If they're both 1/9, get the Bushmaster, if they're both 1/7, get the Bushmaster, if the Colt is 1/7 and the Bushmaster is 1/9, get the Colt (I can't believe I said that! [:O]).
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 10:57:22 AM EDT
Absotively get the Colt MT 6400c. The Bushie is a fine carbine and I really have no axe to grind, but the Colt is simply a better piece. Better barrel (1/7" twist, chrome lined)with side sling attachment.
Upper/Lower receivers marked "M4" (strictly aesthetic, but much cooler than "XM15-E2S")
RAS numbers
"H" buffer
M4 feed ramp cuts
Standard size front and rear push pins

The only real problem with the piece is the "blast enhancing" muzzle brake, which is easily removed. The trigger pin size is a complete non-issue, in my opinion.

The Colt is worth the price of the standard "upgrades". I sold my Bushmaster M4A3 to buy the Colt, and I couldn't be more pleased.

HTH,
Brewer


Link Posted: 12/22/2003 12:47:36 PM EDT
Brewer is absolutly right on the colt specs
I just bought one . And did I mention I love it? All I can say is the colt is a dang fine
firearm no complaints have no bushmasters to
offer a opinion on . So I am not going to tell
you colt is better but you will not be disappointed in the colt quality.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:14:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 4:15:46 PM EDT by migradog]
Thanks all for the advice, but fate sealed my choice. The distributor is out of the Bushys, so I'm buying the Colt.


It'll be wrappped and put under the tree. To me from my wife.

I can't wait to see the look on her face!!!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:35:13 PM EDT
Good Choice. I bought one about 7 months ago and I have no regets. It will hold 1.5 MOA with Q3131
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:04:21 PM EDT
Oh well, figured you wouldn't lose eitherway.

Tj
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:07:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Brewer:... I sold my Bushmaster M4A3 to buy the Colt, and I couldn't be more pleased...
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Ditto!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:09:23 PM EDT
You'll be as happy as can be.  Love my Colt M4 !!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 7:34:39 PM EDT
If the following extras are worth it to you, then buy the Colt:

The Colt 6400c has an M4 marked upper and lower:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/M4_Lower_small.JPG[/img]

[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Upper.JPG[/img]

Heavy duty "H" buffer and heavy duty extractor spring for reliability:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Buffer.JPG[/img]

[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Extractor.JPG[/img]

Barrel has proper 1/7ROT, chamber and barrel are chrome lined:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Cmp.JPG[/img]

Upper is RAS numbered:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Ras.JPG[/img]

Side sling mount:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Sling.JPG[/img]

Standard pushpin lower and no protruding searblock:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/front_pin.JPG[/img]

Proper M4 handguards with dual heatshields:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/M4_handguards.JPG[/img]

Proper M4 entended feedramps:
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Ramps.JPG[/img]

[b]Lifetime service agreement:[/b]
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/Service1.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 8:09:02 PM EDT
No regrets here! My second Colt, and 3rd AR. First was a 16" HBAR. I had a 16" Bushy preban before the new Colt. The fit and finish of the MT6400C is definitely top-notch! Don't miss the Bushy at all.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 10:10:14 PM EDT
I have a LE/ GOV COlt as well as a M4 Bushmaster.  I love my Colt, but you are not getting more for your dollar.  If you need the Colt name, then pay the extra.  Either weapon will do fine, with Bushmaster being more helpful to you if you aren't LE.  Colt isn't exactly known for its service, and yes everyones parts break eventually.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 12:43:55 PM EDT
I agree with stickman, both have great reputations.  I can only speak firsthand of BM, very satisfied, and yes, they have excellent customer service.  The most important thing has already happened...Your'e now in the family.  Bless you, and may you shoot well and often.

P.S.  I know what my wifes face would look like.  Even after 19 years, there is no mistaking that, "you gotta be shi%t&ng me look".

Can't wait to hear what your b,day brings.

Mike
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 4:33:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2003 4:34:07 PM EDT by migradog]
Hello All,
         Again, Thanks for the info and warm welcome.
         I ended up buying the Colt MT6400C from Quality Surplus for $869.99 and $12.00 shipping. I had seen them mentioned at this site and tracked them down. They had one left and took credit cards with no fee!!! How could I resist??!!

    I wish you all a Very Merry Christmas!!!


Mike7111, My other present is a Greek SAR-8
     Life is good!!!
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 4:41:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By jnewt:
What does it matter if the colt has odd sized parts?.. I keep hearing this and dont understand the logic behide it. If you can legally preform FA conversions then I guess it does matter but for 99% of us, who cares. Most after market triggers are available in non Colt and Colt sizes which is why I dont understand where you guys are coming from. Fill me in...
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If you get colt there is no coversion for you![nono]
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:00:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2003 5:01:25 PM EDT by CJan_NH]
Originally Posted By LocknLoaded:
Originally Posted By jnewt:
What does it matter if the colt has odd sized parts?.. I keep hearing this and dont understand the logic behide it. If you can legally preform FA conversions then I guess it does matter but for 99% of us, who cares. Most after market triggers are available in non Colt and Colt sizes which is why I dont understand where you guys are coming from. Fill me in...
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If you get colt there is no coversion for you![nono]
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If you are talking about full auto conversion you are incorrect. You certainly [b]can[/b] do it with a Colt.

A Lightning Link or DIAS doesn't care about trigger pin size, and any machine shop will mill out the shoulder for about 20 bucks.

For the 99% of us who don't care about full auto conversions having the extra material around the end of the receiver can't hurt in terms of durability.

Besides, if I was going to spend a few grand to venture into NFA something tells me that an extra $80 for a new stripped lower isn't going to break the piggy bank.

In the meantime I'll enjoy the lifetime warranty, reliability, and higher resale value of my "overpriced" Colts...
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:31:13 PM EDT
I'm in Law Enforcement and the rifle will be a trunk gun in case the SHTF.

In this case, Full-Auto is irrelevent to me.
I've trained on the M4, Uzi and HK MP-5 and realize Full-Auto is a very good way for most shooters to waste ammunition.

I'm very pleased with my purchase and may just build another AR for the fun of it later in 2004.
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