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Posted: 8/5/2005 6:04:47 PM EDT
Just wondering what brand of AR's are most troublesome and prone to problems. I'm getting ready to buy my first AR and I'm trying to get all the info I can get.

Thanks
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:23:39 PM EDT
ASA
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:24:48 PM EDT
I've had no problems at all with my Olympic, and I beat the hell out of it. It just begs for more. And not too many problems with the many Colt M16's I've fired either. Some people give the Olymics a bad review, but I have had no problem with it at all, after 5k rounds.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 7:06:41 PM EDT
Are DPMS guns any good? Pros / Cons ?

How do they rate compared to Rock River and Bushmaster?

What are the differences?

Thanks
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 11:45:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2005 11:47:57 PM EDT by Tweak]
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 11:52:14 PM EDT
I'm with Tweak on this one.

Followed by Hesse.
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 11:54:02 PM EDT
hesse
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:04:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:55:33 AM EDT
model 1 is pretty sucky.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:54:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By imq707s:
Just wondering what brand of AR's are most troublesome and prone to problems. I'm getting ready to buy my first AR and I'm trying to get all the info I can get.

Thanks



Oly sucks
DPMS is not much better.
Have had bad luck with Armalite.
Pat
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:08:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:09:36 AM EDT
well thats a new twist.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:20:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 3:05:41 AM EDT by ggllggll]

Originally Posted By Glockfan:

Oly sucks
DPMS is not much better.
Have had bad luck with Armalite.
Pat



[Puts gloves on] I have to say that pistol cal. oly's do not "suck." DPMS is excellant quality, minus early forged lowers, have no experiance with armalite.

How dare you accuse DPMS of being poor quality. I'll bet you own a colt right?

[/Puts gloves on]

we are friends again
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:31:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:50:48 AM EDT
And I was just going to say Colt.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:07:09 AM EDT
fixed it
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:15:24 AM EDT
I don't have an unreliable AR-15.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:24:53 AM EDT
They're all unreliable.

Get an AK.

Somebody had to say it.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:07:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By imq707s:
Just wondering what brand of AR's are most troublesome and prone to problems. I'm getting ready to buy my first AR and I'm trying to get all the info I can get.

Thanks



Buy Matel, they made all of the original M16's, everything else is a copy.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:18:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 5:20:11 AM EDT by PeacekeeperRLTW]

Originally Posted By imq707s:
Just wondering what brand of AR's are most troublesome and prone to problems. I'm getting ready to buy my first AR and I'm trying to get all the info I can get.

Thanks



If price isn't a concern buy a Colt.

If price is a concern buy one of the following; Bushmaster, Rock River, Armalite.

I would make sure that your first weapon is:
1. Factory Built.
2. Has a Chrome Lined Barrel.

After you learn all about AR15's, buy the tools and build your own, just they way YOU want it;
it's much more fun.

Just my .02 worth.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 6:29:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 6:32:01 AM EDT by Mudfoot]

Originally Posted By Glockfan:

Oly sucks
DPMS is not much better.
Have had bad luck with Armalite.
Pat



Uhm, No.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 11:37:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tweak:
junk parts assembled by an inept assembler are the most unreliable.



hard to beat that answer.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 11:48:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BH1:

Originally Posted By Tweak:
junk parts assembled by an inept assembler are the most unreliable.



hard to beat that answer.



That's exactly Frankenguns got a bad reputation. Building on the cheap with questionable parts and questionable techniques.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 11:58:22 AM EDT
I have had a couple of DPMS rifles that were the epitomy of shit.

I think one was a re-incarnated muzzle loader, every time you shotit you had to ram a cleaning rod down the barrel to get the shell casing out

The other one was not much better
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:49:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
hesse



yup
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:51:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeacekeeperRLTW:

Originally Posted By imq707s:
Just wondering what brand of AR's are most troublesome and prone to problems. I'm getting ready to buy my first AR and I'm trying to get all the info I can get.

Thanks



If price isn't a concern buy a Colt.

If price is a concern buy one of the following; Bushmaster, Rock River, Armalite.

I would make sure that your first weapon is:
1. Factory Built.
2. Has a Chrome Lined Barrel.

After you learn all about AR15's, buy the tools and build your own, just they way YOU want it;
it's much more fun.

Just my .02 worth.



The best post I've seen so far today. Good advice.

Scott



Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:56:22 PM EDT
Get a Colt, Bushmaster or Rock River and you'll be happy, all three very good rifles
After you learn all you can you can trade it off for what you really want, or better yet, buy a second, third...........
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:01:23 PM EDT
I've heard bad things about Model 1 Sales' lower parts being too soft and bolts breaking and such but I've heard a few people say their uppers aren't bad. I have no expierience with them, though.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:09:30 PM EDT
M1s is cheep. Thats about it. hit or miss with them. Canted FSB's, LPK's out of spec, Flash Supressors not indexed.... typical low quality qc stuff.

But I own one and kind of like it
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:06:37 PM EDT
I use Bushmaster for 99% of my builds. CMMG uppers and parts are great and serve me well. Never had any issues with BM or CMMG parts.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:01:01 AM EDT
OLY SUCKS. (PERIOD)
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 9:41:25 AM EDT
No, they don't! (Exclamation point)
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 9:44:35 AM EDT
COLT!!!!


oh wait, what was the question?
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 9:48:11 AM EDT
OLYMPIC ARMS!

Hands down the WORST out of spec junk I have ever seen. On this site and in person too! Holy shit those retards suck!

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 9:56:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 9:59:20 AM EDT
hesse are the biggest piles of crap. my friend has a stubby colt thats almost as bad. i havent had any problems with my bushy.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 10:07:09 AM EDT
I was wondering how long it would take markm to chime in about oly, once again. Oly's are great rifles no matter what these guys tell you. Now a real answer.


Vulcan sucks.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 10:13:29 AM EDT
I'ved owned more than one of each brand listed so far (except Vulcan/Hesse), and I have yet to have an AR with a reliability problem that didn't disappear once the weapon was broken in. Yes, I consider myself very lucky in this (I know problems and periodic QC issues do occur) and I realize that YMMV.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 10:23:02 AM EDT
there are bad ones with everyone, some more than others.

i
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:19:49 PM EDT
For those of you who say Oly's really suck.....why?? Stuff machined out of spec? Bad finish? Bad service?

It just seems strange that some or you are saying that they are great, high quality weapons and others of you are saying that they are the biggest POS's you can buy. How is that possible?

More info please!

Thanks
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:37:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
OLYMPIC ARMS!

Hands down the WORST out of spec junk I have ever seen. On this site and in person too! Holy shit those retards suck!




Here he goes again...
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:38:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 2:39:22 PM EDT by Couch-Commando]
Oly used to be a lower quality manufacture... over 10 years ago. They use to use cast recievers. Now a days they're very good. markm is "special". Don't mind him.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:46:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
well thats a new twist.



WTF dude? Do you ever post more than five words in a reply?
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