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Link Posted: 12/3/2013 11:34:38 AM EST
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 12:24:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wesmerc:
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Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 12:54:42 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.
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Originally Posted By wesmerc:

I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build






Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.




 
Seems doable to me - something like carbon upper, polymer lower, pistol barrel (maybe) ... if you switch calibers you can eliminate the gas block and tube and maybe even buffer weight.
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 12:56:07 PM EST
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Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.
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Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build



Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.



Not necessarily,  here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards.



If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able.
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 6:41:48 PM EST
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Not necessarily,  here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg

If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able.
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Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build



Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.



Not necessarily,  here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg

If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able.


Is that an M&P Sport upper?
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 7:17:43 PM EST
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Is that an M&P Sport upper?
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Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build



Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol.  You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light.



Not necessarily,  here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg

If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able.


Is that an M&P Sport upper?


Ahhh, no.

I "cheated", it's a plastic upper receiver. And yes, the receiver is a POS.
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 7:42:23 PM EST


Rainier upper, youngs lightweight bcg, cav arms lower, geissele 3g trigger, barrel was a cmmg 1 in 7 nitrided govt profile barrel that was reprofiled by adco to lightweight. Rainier mini comp. 5 pounds and some change.
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 9:04:42 PM EST
So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle.  Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs?
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 10:09:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GoldenStatePrepz:
So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle.  Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs?
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No... but I wouldn't post it in this thread.

There are plenty of other places to discuss rifles over six pounds, and even a "heavyweights" picture and discussion thread.

This thread is for discussing ultra-lights.  I'd venture to guess that almost every poster in this thread has at least one other rifle which weighs over six pounds as well.

~Augee
Link Posted: 12/3/2013 10:13:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GoldenStatePrepz:
So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle.  Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs?
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Then stay home and out of this thread, it's not for you.

My contribution:



5 lbs 15.6 oz

Nodak A1 Upper
Green Mountain 16" fluted M4 barrel
Midwest Industries SS Carbine Handguard
Core15 NiB BCG
Brownells Para CH
Magpul MOE Stock and MOE K Grip

This is an old picture, so I have to admit that she's a little heavier now with a CTR stock, sling, and grip panels.

Have a new lightweight build I'm working on now, but this time in 300blk.

On a related note, anyone know how much the Troy CQB pistol grip weighs?
Link Posted: 12/5/2013 4:33:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/6/2013 5:44:10 PM EST by 57fairlane]
I was kind of disappointed when I weighed her today . . .



5lbs 5oz


Some freebie beat up DPMS parts gave its life for this project

I don't have the money to throw at all the lightweight parts but I do have an air compressor/die grinder and end mill so I got busy with those.

Standard m4 upper, full auto regular BCG , self-windowed lower, turned 14.5 barrel, freebie aac flash hider, commercial craptastic stock (even this "lightened version is 1 oz heavier than an untouched milspec ).

I could easily turn off another 2oz of material without spending anything . . . mill off the unused picatinny rail, turn the flash hider.  Hacked up milspec stock kit + semi BCG should drop another 2oz.

Was really hoping to be in the 4s with a total of $200 invested (again, bunch of JUNK I had laying around) besides what I already had
Link Posted: 12/5/2013 4:45:14 PM EST
What grip is that and what does it weigh?
Link Posted: 12/5/2013 4:55:08 PM EST
Its a magpul moe-k.

Have to get back with you on the weight
Link Posted: 12/5/2013 10:35:29 PM EST
Cool rifle, 57fairlane, but way too much front sight post :D

I see you cut away a lot of it, post some pics of the areas you lightened.
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 3:03:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2014 6:57:45 PM EST by JCatt]
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.

DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit.
I'm happy with how it turned out!
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 5:52:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg
DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit.
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Your sight is on backwards......
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 6:54:29 PM EST
Any idea how much my new build will weigh...approx?

Noveske factory  Gen 1 upper 14.5" skinny bbl perm attached AAC NM
Magpul mid length hand guards
Magpul MBUS gen 2 rear sight
Noveske gen 1 lower
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul CTR

Would this be considered "light"?  It will be the lightest rifle I have by far.


Link Posted: 1/18/2014 6:59:55 PM EST
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Your sight is on backwards......
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Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg
DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit.
I'm happy with how it turned out!



Your sight is on backwards......


Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiotbut its fixed now, thanks!
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 7:18:00 PM EST
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Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiotbut its fixed now, thanks!
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Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg
DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit.
I'm happy with how it turned out!



Your sight is on backwards......


Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiotbut its fixed now, thanks!



No problem man. looks really good regardless.
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 7:41:59 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/18/2014 8:12:17 PM EST
I already wanted to do a lightweight build for my rifle. I have the mag tactical lower in FDE and an Upper on order also FDE. already put in a Daniel Defense LPK. and I believe Ill be going with the Battle link Minimalist stock. Havent decided on a hand guard but really want a 13-15" with top rail. I know that will add to my weight but I like the site longer radius. will be going with a 16" barrel because I want to keep the ability to change flash suppressors easily and will be adding a silencer if Ohios Silencer Hunting laws go through.

Back to the point this thread and the FDE thread will make me put this rifle together faster than Ill want to. Thanks guys.
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 8:29:59 PM EST
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I already wanted to do a lightweight build for my rifle. I have the mag tactical lower in FDE and an Upper on order also FDE. already put in a Daniel Defense LPK. and I believe Ill be going with the Battle link Minimalist stock. Havent decided on a hand guard but really want a 13-15" with top rail. I know that will add to my weight but I like the site longer radius. will be going with a 16" barrel because I want to keep the ability to change flash suppressors easily and will be adding a silencer if Ohios Silencer Hunting laws go through.

Back to the point this thread and the FDE thread will make me put this rifle together faster than Ill want to. Thanks guys.
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Isn't a milspec stock lighter than the Battle Link stock?

What is the lightest stock available?
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 9:07:28 PM EST
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What is the lightest stock available?
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MFT minimalist
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MFT minimalist
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What is the lightest stock available?


MFT minimalist



I know that's what the manufacturer claims on the product page, but it says under 6 ounces.

There are numerous stocks for the AR that are under 6 ounces.

So, if it is the lightest, what does it weigh?

CAR Fiberlite stock body = 4.6 oz
Colt 6920 M4 (gen 4) stock body = 5.7 oz (w/o metal sling mount)
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 9:48:50 PM EST
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Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc.  I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build.
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Damn! How'd you do that?


Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc.  I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build.

Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section?
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 10:37:59 PM EST
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Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section?
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:


Damn! How'd you do that?


Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc.  I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build.

Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section?


Chopping a Cav Arms lower tutorial
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 11:06:58 PM EST
Ah, I see. Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 11:10:58 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 11:18:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:

  Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight.

Love the compacts/ ultra compacts.
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Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg
DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit.
I'm happy with how it turned out!

  Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight.

Love the compacts/ ultra compacts.



Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are?
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 11:30:51 PM EST
It saves some weight and makes a nice compact package for a non sbr. Measured it vs. another 14.5 with the same flash hider and the ultra compact equipped rifle is 29 3/4 versus right at 32 with a B5 sopmod.
Link Posted: 1/18/2014 11:39:25 PM EST
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Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are?
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg
DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit.
I'm happy with how it turned out!

  Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight.

Love the compacts/ ultra compacts.



Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are?


I didn't weigh the stock itself but can if you want. I swapped a Vltor tube, H buffer, spring, and M4 stock it weighed 17.4oz total and the LWRC ultra compact kit was 16.4. If you compared a standard carbine buffer it would be closer to 2 oz of savings, plus a compact package.
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 12:11:48 AM EST
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Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not...

Daniel Defense 14.5" barrel
BCM low profile gas block
MI SSK 12" handguard

So far pretty light...
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 12:14:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:

  You do.

No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo.
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Originally Posted By djkest:
Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not...

  You do.

No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo.


+1.  The JP is a work of art, and the FA is worthless with the lightweight BCGs.
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 12:39:21 AM EST
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Check this out:
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/combo-sets/ar15-matched-stripped-receiver-set-no-forward-assist.html

It's even a really good deal, and in stock as well.

My only concern is that I want the AR to be 100% reliable. Okay, 99.5% reliable. But I can't remember the last time I used a forward assist. Granted, I don't shoot as much as I'd like.

And the JP is out of the question for me. But 6 lbs is achievable without it.
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Yeah that's going to be hard to beat.
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Yeah that's going to be hard to beat.
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Yeah that's going to be hard to beat.


I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing.
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 11:46:35 AM EST
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I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing.
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Yeah that's going to be hard to beat.


I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing.


Yes more pics
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 2:57:33 PM EST
I think there are really 3 main areas where you can "blow it" as far as weight is concerned if you goal is a 6 lb rifle.
1) Barrel
2) Handguard
3) Buttstock

I see a lot of billet uppers/lowers but I think all of those (with the exception of mag tac) are going to add some weight.
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 3:09:30 PM EST
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below!
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 3:19:37 PM EST
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Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below!
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If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much.
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 3:40:39 PM EST
Oh man. I just looked at the 13"  one on their website. So super cool. I do love the Wilson but I might be able to be persuaded with the Bravo Company piece! It's out of stock but I signed up for in-stock notification. Gives me time to think about it, hahaha!
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If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much.
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Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below!


If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much.


He will need something to use in the meantime...
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 10:09:20 PM EST
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I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing.
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Yeah that's going to be hard to beat.


I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing.


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If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much.
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Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below!


If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much.


It looks like there will be a KMR10 as well as the lightweight KMR13, but no info on their site if the 10 will be the same material.
Link Posted: 1/19/2014 11:17:03 PM EST
I think it would be really awesome if we had some sort of repository for weights for various items. I'm not 100% sure what it would look like or where on ARFCOM it would be posted.
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Link Posted: 1/20/2014 1:56:35 AM EST
Colt AR6720 LE. My digital postal scale indicates 5.9 lbs.  The rifle carries perfectly balanced in my hands with a full 20 rd magazine. Impressive build quality. Accurate beyond my capabilities at long range with "peep sight" aperture sights. The 4th photo shows a frying pan lid I suspended with string to serve as a homemade redneck silhouette target placed at 300 yards distance. Standing upright with handguard braced against a tree. 20 rounds fired, 9 hits.... NO WAY!  I COULD HARDLY SEE THE DAMN THING AGAINST THE FRONT POST AT THAT RANGE! Did I say I like this rifle yet? Wow. Hats off to Colt USA.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/TommySohappy/dab909b6-149b-431e-973f-d223ca58a46d_zps40b14f64.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/TommySohappy/20131227_230647_zps6d62cad1.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/TommySohappy/20131227_231323_zps2382aeca.jpeg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/TommySohappy/20140118_145926_zps62d114d3.jpg

Snug15

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Link Posted: 1/20/2014 12:44:13 PM EST
The BCM KMR is not out yet. They said about 4-6 weeks for the 13" KMR and the 10" to follow. But the KMR will be made from a magnesium alloy, and will be the lightest keymod rail on the market. The KMR13 weighs 7.7 oz with barrel nut, and the KMR10 is 6.5 oz. I can't wait; I signed up for the email reminder so hopefully I can snag one when it becomes available.


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Nice! Specs on barrel (make/length/profile) please.
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