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Posted: 8/13/2017 8:17:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2017 10:58:00 AM EST by Mrgunsngear]








I've been working, along with the folks at Primary Arms and Trijicon, for over a year to make an idea I had while using the original TA44 years ago happen. IMO, the most limiting factor with the original TA44 is the reticle; at distance it was very difficult to engage targets quickly but the new ACSS version fixes that. In my review below I state that I'd only taken mine out to 330/350 yards but last week I had a chance to shoot it at 500 and it was spot on there as well.

Pros:
-lightweight
-durable
-uber clear glass
-reticle greatly increases capability of the optic
-common mounts available
-free shipping and a free mount when you use the links in the video description
-red and green reticles available currently
-high and low (for AKs, ARX100s, etc...) mounting options available
-folks with astigmatism won't have issues with it like they do with red dots

Cons:
-cost

Full review:

Link Posted: 8/13/2017 12:13:05 PM EST
Have you tried this on your ARX yet?
Been thinking of getting the low version for mine.
Oh, any reason why PA is only offering the free mount with the standard height version?
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 2:31:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nsl:
Have you tried this on your ARX yet?
Been thinking of getting the low version for mine.
Oh, any reason why PA is only offering the free mount with the standard height version?
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Haven't used it on an ARX.

If you use the links in the video description there should be free mounts with low as well. If not let me know.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 7:33:51 PM EST
I want one. Good review!
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 7:35:51 PM EST
What's old is new again.

I had an old school ACOG once upon a time... might be worth a look.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 8:21:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mrgunsngear:

Cons:
-cost
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Yep, I'll go be poor somewhere else .
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 9:34:12 AM EST
And now I have to spend more money ??
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 6:13:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:
And now I have to spend more money ??
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Up to you.

As referenced earlier; at 500 yards:

Link Posted: 8/14/2017 7:41:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/14/2017 8:03:35 PM EST by inkaybee]
I swore I'd never buy another ACOG due to reticle grey out washout issues but damn this one temps me.

Love the reticle design

It would be about the perfect carbine optic if it had a battery powered reticle
Link Posted: 8/15/2017 1:31:56 AM EST
Is the reticle the same size as the other TA44 with the circle dot?
How forgiving is the eye relief, and can you run it further forward like a dot?
Link Posted: 8/15/2017 2:59:35 PM EST
Damn, and I had just bought a TA44 a few months ago! I wonder if trijicon could swap out the reticle?

With the ACS, what do the two lower dots correspond to, if the tip of the triangle is zero?
Link Posted: 8/15/2017 3:38:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nsl:
Is the reticle the same size as the other TA44 with the circle dot?
How forgiving is the eye relief, and can you run it further forward like a dot?
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It's not.

Eye relief is 2.4'' but you can push it further out and still use it; the distance will vary by head position and user.
Link Posted: 8/15/2017 4:30:46 PM EST
Around 1:33

"I whip my barrel back and forth, I whip my barrel back and forth!"

Link Posted: 8/15/2017 6:42:01 PM EST
OP you need to twist some arms and get a LED version of this made

Please
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:28:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By inkaybee:
OP you need to twist some arms and get a LED version of this made

Please
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Honestly it may not be possible with the 44 body. Maybe on the 45 but they need room to run the electronics...
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 12:58:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By inkaybee:
OP you need to twist some arms and get a LED version of this made

Please
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It would be interesting to see Vortex & Primary Arms enter into a joint venture like PA has with Trijicon

IIRC correctly some of their stuff is made in the same factories as PA?
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 8:48:01 PM EST
I LOVE my TA44.  If they put that reticle in a TA33 I'm breaking out the VISA.
Link Posted: 8/19/2017 8:55:44 PM EST
Damn that is going to cost me...
Link Posted: 8/20/2017 9:25:13 AM EST
Mine shows up next week, I'm excited about this little guy
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 10:59:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ef4life:
Mine shows up next week, I'm excited about this little guy
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Nice. Mine showed up last night









The one I ordered once they were available was the low mount. This thing is just sweet on an AK with the RS mount!
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 12:53:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 1:24:23 PM EST
Me too. Just picked up a TA-02. It is my favorite possession.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:06:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mrgunsngear:


Nice. Mine showed up last night

http://i.imgur.com/th609jel.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ARqV9w6l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ukeSvDul.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NfyV8ddl.jpg

The one I ordered once they were available was the low mount. This thing is just sweet on an AK with the RS mount!
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PA told me in an e-mail that the low mount version would not work with the offered AD mount.
I know the pics above are not of the AD mount, but do you know if the mount is usable or not?
Seems like the person that gave me the answer may of made a mistake.
Link Posted: 10/21/2017 9:20:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2017 9:42:06 PM EST by 4t5acp]
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Originally Posted By nsl:

PA told me in an e-mail that the low mount version would not work with the offered AD mount.
I know the pics above are not of the AD mount, but do you know if the mount is usable or not?
Seems like the person that gave me the answer may of made a mistake.
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I've done a little research - (These are estimations, I do not have the scope or mounts yet)

AR Height base scope + ADM mount - sits approximately lower 1/3 cowitness


AR Height base scope + Midwest industries mount - sits higher than lower 1/3 cowitness (Also looks too high in pics)


Low-Base scope + ADM mount - sits lower than absolute cowitness (barely clears rear BUIS)


Low-Base scope + Midwest industries mount - sits approximately lower 1/3 cowitness (Verified by midwest industries customer support)
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