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Posted: 7/21/2005 2:34:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/26/2005 4:26:57 PM EDT by Rabbit9]
I decided a couple of months ago that I wanted to do a project that was decidedly "non-tactical". I've always liked the look of carbon fiber, so that's the route I took. The carbon fiber FF tube was easy enough to acquire, but NOBODY makes a carbon fiber stock. I ran across a compnay called Phoenix Imaging www.phoenix-image.com/Index2.htm on one of the automotive boards, and learned that they apply custom hydro-graphic finishes. I talked to them about applying their carbon fiber finish to an A2 stock, and they said that they could make it happen. So for your viewing pleasure............



Let me know what you think!

And shown here in it's future home...........





This is the run down:

CMT upper and lower receivers
Phoenix Imaging A2 stock
Hiperform carbon fiber FF tube
GG&G GS-1 rail
ARMS #22 rings
Leupold 4.5-14X50 LRT scope
ERGO grip
JP drop-in match trigger (Thanks C4iGrant!)
JP SS bolt carrier
ROBAR NP3 coated CMT bolt
Wilson Combat magazine release
PRI SS gas block
PRI QC muzzle break
PRI gasbuster charging handle

.....Still working on the barrel, but it'll be an 18" match tube.

***UPDATE***
I'll be installing a Noveske Rifleworks SPR barrel on this rifle.

Pics of the completed rifle will follow.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 2:37:02 PM EDT
Looks good, a bit too shiny for my taste though. Lets see the complete AR.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 2:42:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/26/2005 6:37:06 AM EDT by Rabbit9]

Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Looks good, a bit too shiny for my taste though. Lets see the complete AR.



These things take time.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 2:44:10 PM EDT
That is decidedly non-tactical and it looks nice!
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 2:44:32 PM EDT
now all it needs is a carbon fiber suppressor from CCF.it does look good.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 3:15:59 PM EDT
Looks good!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 3:51:20 PM EDT
That is pretty damn cool.
I like it, although, my rifle has been known to take a bit of a beating on long camping / hiking trips....that virgin shiny finish wouldnt last long on my furniture...but I do like the looks of it.

Sweet build!
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 3:52:47 PM EDT
I like the invisible receiver pins and mag release.

Nice rifle. I'm not to big on the exposed carbon, but that's pretty freaking cool.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 4:47:11 PM EDT
Can you tell us how much it costs to have them do a stock set?

I have been thinking about have this done to a set of AR-10B stocks, but price would have a lot to do with my decision.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 4:53:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Malysh:
Can you tell us how much it costs to have them do a stock set?
I have been thinking about have this done to a set of AR-10B stocks, but price would have a lot to do with my decision.
Thanks!



The A2 stock was $130. I'm guessing that you could have them finish a stock and handguard for around two bills.

This is a professional finish, and VERY high quality. It's also not as shiny as it looks.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 4:55:15 PM EDT
Looking real good!

There seems to be a wave of "Modified Stocks" this week...
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 4:56:23 PM EDT
Looks sweet, but kinda needs the pistol grip in carbon fiber to complete the look.. prolly be damn near impossible to coat the TD battlegrip in that stuff.. wouldn't it?
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 5:00:16 PM EDT
That's pretty sweet. What's the weight on that stock set??? I'd like to see that applied to a m4 front stock. And a little flatter on the finish. I bet that set you back a pretty penny though! nice!
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 5:05:09 PM EDT
Oh, is that just a carbon wrap?

or did you use the stock to make a mold?
if so, what was used (foam, etc.) to fill it?
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 5:17:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GhostRing:
Oh, is that just a carbon wrap?

or did you use the stock to make a mold?
if so, what was used (foam, etc.) to fill it?



NOBODY is / will make a carbon fiber stock.

I got tired of asking.

The A2 stock has a "Hydro-Graphic" finish. Basically, they paint the item the base color, and dip it in a water tank that has the carbon fiber finish desolved on the surface. The carbon fiber finish coats the item, and then a clear coat finish is applied and the item polished.
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 5:40:47 PM EDT
sweeeet
Link Posted: 7/21/2005 7:33:14 PM EDT
I like it. Good job!!!
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 5:59:15 AM EDT
me likey!
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 6:34:59 AM EDT
matches my car


Link Posted: 7/22/2005 6:47:41 AM EDT
that is unbelievably sexy. who cares if it's tactical when it looks that good.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 7:58:23 AM EDT
you know, that looks great!
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 9:54:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2005 9:55:57 AM EDT by Rabbit9]

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:
matches my car

img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/eklikewhoa/pc0600990.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/eklikewhoa/11_290149.jpg



Now we know where all your money goes!

My last car was a Honda Accord. There were no "exterior" modifications, but the engine bay and suspension were definitely not factory. Do companies like TRUST / PORTFLOW / FERREA / WEB / CROWER / WISECO / EIBACH / ST ring a bell?
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 2:06:49 PM EDT
Looks good. I've always liked the look of carbon fiber. Never thought of it on an AR though. Non tactical but nice. Would be good on a tricked out compitition gun.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 2:30:37 PM EDT
I'll bet there would be a decent market for carbone fiber stocks, handguards and tubes. The sheen (shine if you must) does not need to be present, and could be taken down with light blasting, or by not applying the top coat in a gloss.


Eventually, someone will tap into this market and will clean up. I would bet that the cost would not even have to be that extreme.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 2:33:01 PM EDT
Now you need Bushmaster carbon fiber upper/lower and carbon fiber barrel to round it out lol.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 2:34:05 PM EDT
I like it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 7:34:03 PM EDT
techno-pimp-rice gun.................
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 8:27:45 PM EDT
Carbon fiber stock and forend:
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 8:54:59 PM EDT
Awwwwww! Eyyyyyyeeee was gonna post the Supersport...
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 9:47:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:
Carbon fiber stock and forend:
www.benelliusa.com/firearms/images/sport-synthetic-large.jpg





that c/f si similar to the ones that are on the hk's, painted and horrble weave pattern, imo
Link Posted: 7/22/2005 11:47:42 PM EDT
The Carbon Fiber looks good
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 5:12:50 AM EDT
Different.

Kind of cool for a range gun.
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 5:32:15 AM EDT
sweet
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 9:37:47 AM EDT
Hell yeah I love that Carbon Fiber.
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 9:50:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:
Carbon fiber stock and forend:
www.benelliusa.com/firearms/images/sport-synthetic-large.jpg





that c/f si similar to the ones that are on the hk's, painted and horrble weave pattern, imo



If you are talking about the FABARM sporting clays shotguns that used to be imported by HK, that wasn't CF. That was a CF looking film applied with the same process used to apply camouflage patterns on guns.

The stock and forearm on the Benelli above don't look like carbon fiber. They ARE carbon fiber.
Link Posted: 7/23/2005 12:31:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2005 12:31:32 PM EDT by Rabbit9]

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:
The stock and forearm on the Benelli above don't look like carbon fiber. They ARE carbon fiber.



My local FFL / Benelli rep says that's a negative. The carbon fiber finish on the Benelli SS is just like the camo finish; it's a coating.
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 6:46:25 AM EDT
Barrel is ordered.....

www.jnrifleworks.com/cgi-bin/cart2/detail.cgi?sprbarrel

This just keeps getting better.
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 7:03:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
The Carbon Fiber looks good



I agree, it really does look have a space age look to it.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 5:49:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rabbit9:
Barrel is ordered.....

www.jnrifleworks.com/cgi-bin/cart2/detail.cgi?sprbarrel

This just keeps getting better.



I don't know man. I kinda liked it when it was a NBR (yeah, that's no-barreled rifle).

Nice rig Rabbit9.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 5:54:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rabbit9:

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:
The stock and forearm on the Benelli above don't look like carbon fiber. They ARE carbon fiber.



My local FFL / Benelli rep says that's a negative. The carbon fiber finish on the Benelli SS is just like the camo finish; it's a coating.



Only one way to find out for sure, look on the inside. I have a fair idea of what it should look like on the unfinished side, as I used to work in aerospace and the fuselages of some of the planes they made were CF.

For what Benelli charges, that shit damn well better be the real deal......
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 7:40:32 AM EDT
Looks nice but with clear coat wouldn't that sucker be like a skating rink slick once you got sweat on it??
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 7:50:58 AM EDT
I prefer the old mattel plastic
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 8:52:16 AM EDT
Ugh. Last think I want is my rifle looking like some shitty Socal ricer.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 10:03:35 AM EDT
Different, but sometimes different is cool...I would like to see it with the CF barrel and a CF grip.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 10:32:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 10:36:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:
matches my car

img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/eklikewhoa/pc0600990.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/eklikewhoa/11_290149.jpg



LOL I always thought it was black primer in the avatar pic
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 7:34:07 AM EDT
I found this while Googling for carbon fiber stock info.

You could get an A1 pistol grip, sand the raised checkering off and have the same hydro-graphic finish applied to that. Heck, is there any reason you couldn't have the upper and lower hydro-graphically refinished?

My brother-in-law works for a company that develops and sells cutting software. I asked him what the thought it would take to cut out adhesive backed carbon-fiber "decals" to cover AR15 stocks. He thought it would be a piece of cake with their software and a knife or laser plotter. They already have customers cutting carbon fiber that way.

I'd prefer "real" (as opposed to cosmetic) carbon fiber furniture. I think Stickman is right. There is a niche market here waiting to be tapped...

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