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Posted: 6/15/2009 2:02:15 AM EDT

Do I need a permit to ship AR15 bolts out of the country?

Posted: 6/15/2009 2:05:02 AM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
Do I need a permit to ship AR15 bolts out of the country?

I wouldnt think so ??

what country

Posted: 6/15/2009 2:07:34 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do I need a permit to ship AR15 bolts out of the country?

I wouldnt think so ??

what country

Just the same, be very carefull. Check ITAR rules about it.

Posted: 6/15/2009 2:10:11 AM EDT

[#3]

The guy who wants them is in Belgium.

Posted: 6/15/2009 3:09:16 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.

its just a bolt ONLY

even though FA carrier is legal here in the USA

I would check the LAWS before sending Full auto carrier/Bolt out of USA!

I bet the belgium guy cant find a Bolt or they cost a arm/leg
might be a big help to him

Posted: 6/15/2009 3:11:35 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.

its just a bolt ONLY

even though FA carrier is legal here in the USA

I would check the LAWS before sending Full auto carrier/Bolt out of USA!

The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.

I bet the belgium guy cant find a Bolt or they cost a arm/leg
might be a big help to him

The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.

Posted: 6/15/2009 3:31:54 AM EDT

[#6]

You cannot ship Firearms/ firearm parts out of country. Look at the U.S. Customs website under Dept of Homeland Security.

Posted: 6/15/2009 3:38:04 AM EDT

[#7]

Check the I.C.E. and CBP web sites. It could qualify as "Munitions and Articles of war" and require export licenses, end user certificates, and more paperwork than it's worth.

Failure to comply and shipping it anyway could get you free room & board with the Feds for a long time. Know before you ship.

Personally - I wouldn't mess with it.

Posted: 6/15/2009 4:39:14 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.

its just a bolt ONLY

even though FA carrier is legal here in the USA

I would check the LAWS before sending Full auto carrier/Bolt out of USA!

The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.

I bet the belgium guy cant find a Bolt or they cost a arm/leg
might be a big help to him

The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.

Call UPS or the Post office maybe they will have a quick answer

Posted: 6/15/2009 4:44:07 AM EDT

[#9]

Here is the quick answer:

NO!!!

Even if you were selling to the Belgian military you would need an export permit. US purchased goods, dual use (military and civvy) stuff is showing up on the battlefield and the US State Dept. ITAR regulations are intended to prevent this. For all you know, the guy in Belgium could be a Muzzie looking to supply his jihadi buddies. Regardless, and even if he is the brother of the Prime Minister, you could face felony charges.

There is a reason why companies like BravoCompanyUSA, etc. do not export. It's not because they don't want the sales.

Posted: 6/15/2009 5:08:50 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Here is the quick answer:

NO!!!

Even if you were selling to the Belgian military you would need an export permit. US purchased goods, dual use (military and civvy) stuff is showing up on the battlefield and the US State Dept. ITAR regulations are intended to prevent this. For all you know, the guy in Belgium could be a Muzzie looking to supply his jihadi buddies. Regardless, and even if he is the brother of the Prime Minister, you could face felony charges.

There is a reason why companies like BravoCompanyUSA, etc. do not export. It's not because they don't want the sales.

Bushmaster/ etc EXPORT OUT OF THE USA

Shit we gave IRAQ lots o AID during IRAN BS

Loved the TALLY when they kick comi ass years ago

funny how times are

Posted: 6/15/2009 5:30:21 AM EDT

[#11]

Nope, US DoS rules are even worse and more Byzantine than the ITAR regulations, which also happens to say no. YOu can read them as stating that only weapons are on the list another way to read it is that anything that attaches to the weapon is a no-no (slings, sights, etc) most go witht he second version.

You would need an export cert from DoS and an EUC packet.

Posted: 6/15/2009 7:24:05 AM EDT

[#12]

Thanks.That was my gut feeling. I will pass on selling the parts to him.

Posted: 6/15/2009 7:27:58 AM EDT

[#13]

I ran into a similar issue with a guy from Italy wanting a BCG and stock kit minus stock body. After reading around the .gov sites I was not comfortable shipping any gun items out of the country. It's not worth the risk.

Posted: 6/15/2009 8:27:09 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Call UPS or the Post office maybe they will have a quick answer

I've called UPS about shipping Ammo state to state, only one that would talk to me about the issue was the local franchises that are independently owned. 2 of 3 had no idea what they were talking about and were telling me things that I knew for a fact were absolutely wrong, only the third that dealt often with an FFL shipping ammo gave me the right info from his own personal experience. Perhaps someone at the Corporate offices would be more help, but I could NOT find a number of anyone, nor was the generic numbers any help.

Posted: 6/15/2009 8:32:40 AM EDT

[#15]

It seems to be more trouble than its worth. I'll hang on to them or sell them domestically.

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