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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:02:15 AM EST
Do I need a permit to ship AR15 bolts out of the country?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:05:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By jimdvan:
Do I need a permit to ship AR15 bolts out of the country?




I wouldnt think so ??

what country
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:07:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Originally Posted By jimdvan:
Do I need a permit to ship AR15 bolts out of the country?




I wouldnt think so ??

what country


Just the same, be very carefull. Check ITAR rules about it.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:10:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 1:33:31 AM EST by jimdvan]
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:09:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By jimdvan:
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.



its just a bolt ONLY


even though FA carrier is legal here in the USA


I would check the LAWS before sending Full auto carrier/Bolt out of USA!



I bet the belgium guy cant find a Bolt or they cost a arm/leg
might be a big help to him


Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:11:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 2:12:16 AM EST by jimdvan]
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Originally Posted By jimdvan:
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.



its just a bolt ONLY


even though FA carrier is legal here in the USA


I would check the LAWS before sending Full auto carrier/Bolt out of USA!

The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.



I bet the belgium guy cant find a Bolt or they cost a arm/leg
might be a big help to him





The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:31:54 AM EST
You cannot ship Firearms/ firearm parts out of country. Look at the U.S. Customs website under Dept of Homeland Security.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:38:04 AM EST
Check the I.C.E. and CBP web sites. It could qualify as "Munitions and Articles of war" and require export licenses, end user certificates, and more paperwork than it's worth.

Failure to comply and shipping it anyway could get you free room & board with the Feds for a long time. Know before you ship.


Personally - I wouldn't mess with it.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:39:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By jimdvan:
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Originally Posted By jimdvan:
The guy who wants them is in Belgium.



its just a bolt ONLY


even though FA carrier is legal here in the USA


I would check the LAWS before sending Full auto carrier/Bolt out of USA!

The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.



I bet the belgium guy cant find a Bolt or they cost a arm/leg
might be a big help to him





The bolts include the extractor and gas rings. I would love to help the guy but unless I can decipher the law without a doubt I will not take the chance.


Call UPS or the Post office maybe they will have a quick answer

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:44:07 AM EST
Here is the quick answer:

NO!!!

Even if you were selling to the Belgian military you would need an export permit. US purchased goods, dual use (military and civvy) stuff is showing up on the battlefield and the US State Dept. ITAR regulations are intended to prevent this. For all you know, the guy in Belgium could be a Muzzie looking to supply his jihadi buddies. Regardless, and even if he is the brother of the Prime Minister, you could face felony charges.

There is a reason why companies like BravoCompanyUSA, etc. do not export. It's not because they don't want the sales.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 4:08:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 4:13:44 AM EST by FMJ]
Originally Posted By ak47dan:
Here is the quick answer:

NO!!!

Even if you were selling to the Belgian military you would need an export permit. US purchased goods, dual use (military and civvy) stuff is showing up on the battlefield and the US State Dept. ITAR regulations are intended to prevent this. For all you know, the guy in Belgium could be a Muzzie looking to supply his jihadi buddies. Regardless, and even if he is the brother of the Prime Minister, you could face felony charges.

There is a reason why companies like BravoCompanyUSA, etc. do not export. It's not because they don't want the sales.


Bushmaster/ etc EXPORT OUT OF THE USA

Shit we gave IRAQ lots o AID during IRAN BS

Loved the TALLY when they kick comi ass years ago

funny how times are

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 4:30:21 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:24:05 AM EST
Thanks.That was my gut feeling. I will pass on selling the parts to him.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:27:58 AM EST
I ran into a similar issue with a guy from Italy wanting a BCG and stock kit minus stock body. After reading around the .gov sites I was not comfortable shipping any gun items out of the country. It's not worth the risk.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 7:27:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By FMJ:
Call UPS or the Post office maybe they will have a quick answer

I've called UPS about shipping Ammo state to state, only one that would talk to me about the issue was the local franchises that are independently owned. 2 of 3 had no idea what they were talking about and were telling me things that I knew for a fact were absolutely wrong, only the third that dealt often with an FFL shipping ammo gave me the right info from his own personal experience. Perhaps someone at the Corporate offices would be more help, but I could NOT find a number of anyone, nor was the generic numbers any help.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 7:32:40 AM EST
It seems to be more trouble than its worth. I'll hang on to them or sell them domestically.
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