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Posted: 7/24/2013 4:26:16 AM EDT
I saw the H&K 416C PDW small stock a few years back that was amazingly cool it was so small, plus it looked cool too. I don't think they ever released the gun though, did they? Anyway I saw the NEAG version of a similar stock. I also see it was mentioned here a few years ago, there was also some controversy about who designed it. NEAG is a Canadian company.

Talk about making the AR smaller, this stock is very interesting. It reminds me a little of the M231 stock and that was obviously taken from the M3 grease gun, a weapon I carried while in the Army.

Does anybody have any info about it? Does anybody sell it yet in the USA? I found some things but no for sale for this price advertisements, just some vague thing about a pre-order. There is one place in Canada that sells it. Included is a modified bolt carrier. That's why I am asking if anybody has one or has used one. Once you start having to use a modified bolt carrier I wonder about function.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 8:09:21 AM EDT
you can order directly from them , it's not a firearm just a part.  i've been using one and have had no function issue's with 5.56 or 300blk.  there are a few threads about the stock on here already.  Troy uses these stocks on their trunk monkey guns , if you're looking for a complete gun check them out , they're pretty nice

here's my NEA stocked lower with a 7" upper

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:19:33 AM EDT
They do look great for a SBR. Did you use their bolt carrier too?

It seems they offer the best ultra compact stock to make the best weapon for close quarters. Believe me I know about having rifles too big, you cannot get a M16 out from a M113 drivers hatch, that's why they issued us M3 grease guns in HQ for the M577 drivers. If you can't have a SBR that would shorten the rifle a lot. If I can't get a SBR I am thinking of a 14.7/14.5 barrel with a pinned FS and this stock. I wondered  about the whys of a 14.5 barrel until there was a thread explaining it and it made sense. That should make for a very compact rifle indeed.

I keep saying all I want is 1 or 2 ARs and I can think of a lot more for different scenarios, like one for the range, one for home defense, one for longer range shooting and so on specifically set up for that.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 10:53:28 AM EDT
yes the bolt carrier comes with the set up as does a cut down carbine spring.  i had to cut an additional 2 coils off the recoil spring to make it lock back on an empty mag.  

here's a pic of the bolt carrier

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:05:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 5:59:43 PM EDT
How much shorter collapsed is it than a regular M4 stock?
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 9:39:59 PM EDT
i don't know , i haven't measured it.  here it is collapsed next to an vltor mod stock and an lmt sopmod , the sopmod isn't fully collapsed though.  note the difference in grip height.  as pictured with the 7" upper and stock collapsed it is just under 21"

Link Posted: 7/26/2013 3:25:10 AM EDT
I looked for the Troy trunk monkey and could not find one.

That stock does shorten the overall length a great deal in the scheme of things.

Even with a pinned 14.5/14.7 barrel the overall length would be very short. The weapon would be compact too. I'm surprised I don't see more of them, I guess the price is prohibitive.

Maybe people think it looks silly without the SBR upper. Who care about looks, form follows function. Although looks do play a part, they are not the primary concern for me. Yes I love the Cerakoted stuff and see no reason not to do it but the overall design based on trying to accomplish something is first. If you want to make a rifle that is short and compact yet you are unable to buy a SBR or do not want to wait what looks like a year now this is the way to go.

Hey thanks for the pictures that helped make up my mind.

First purchase is a DD M4V5, then I build some type of shorty lower with the NEA stock and a built upper. Hopefully when I am ready to purchase some things will have gone back to almost normal. I am hoping companies are ramping up more production and prices drop especially ammo. What's the sense in having some awesome rifles without enough ammo to shoot them.

Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:41:47 PM EDT
check out troy in the industry section or google troy at shot show 2013
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