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2/21/2004 5:52:51 PM EDT
I just got a deal too good to pass up on a used Aimpoint CompM & QRP mount...

My question is what is the difference between the early generation CompM, the CompM/XD, and the CompM2?

I'd like answers to be as specific as possible instead of just generalities, Please.

Thanks, guys!
2/21/2004 6:01:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Aimpoints come in two flavors, civilian with ten daylight settings and military with six daylight and four for night vision.

They also come in two generations the newer being able to run much longer on a battery. The newer also have the ability to store a second battery.
2/21/2004 6:21:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes, I know all that already...

What I'm saying is that I think I have a first generation CompM. I'd like to know stuff like the size of the dot, level of water resistance, battery life, etc...
2/22/2004 10:09:46 AM EDT
[#3]
The water resistance and everything is the same across the CompM series.  The big differnce is battery life.  If you got a good deal then I wouldn't worry about it.  I've got a couple of Xds that I've had for a couple years and they're both still on their original batteries.
2/22/2004 11:57:54 AM EDT
[#4]
The fastest way to spot the difference between a CompM(XD) and CompM2 is the capture strap for the battery and adjustment caps. It's rubber on the CompM2's and steel wire on the CompM's (like mine).

CompM2 specs from www.aimpoint.com:
Reticle, size: Red dot, diameter 4 MOA*

Water resistance: Submersible to 25m (80ft) water depth

Battery Life**: 1.000–10.000 hours average. Typically 10 years at NVD position.

*MOA (Minute Of Angle) 1 MOA = 30 mm at 100 meters = 1" at 100 yards
**CET: All models beside Aimpoint 3000 have the new CETechnology
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CompM2's have four night vision settings and six daylight. There is no 'off' setting.

CompM/XD specs from the box mine came in:
Dot size= 3MOA
Water resistance: 25M
Battery Life: 100–1000 hours.
The CompM/XD has seven daylight settings, two night vision settings and an off position.

CompM specs:
Dot size: 7MOA
Water resistance: ?
Battery life: 75-500 hours.
The CompM has nine daylight settings and off.

Link to CompM page at www.aimpoint.com:
[url]http://www.aimpoint.com/products/old/compm.htm[/url]
2/22/2004 9:22:50 PM EDT
[#5]
There are three models:

CompM  100 hrs on battery. not many of these around.

CompM XD 1000 hrs on battey.

CompM2 10,000 hrs on battery.
also compM2 are a one piece tube where the others are 2 piece screwed togeother.
2/27/2004 5:27:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the replies guys...I should have the Aimpoint in my hands tomorrow.

I'm not sure whether it's a CompM or CompM/XD...but for the price I got, I'm not going to be overly picky.

FWIW- [u]I got the Aimpoint, and QRP mount for $150/delivered.[/u]

Judging from the pictures I saw, it's seen quite a bit of use. As long as it works & holds zero, I really don't care. It's probably going to go on the AR I use as a "truck gun", anyhow.
2/27/2004 5:41:47 PM EDT
[#7]
From what I've read they can all take a pounding and hold zero. That's why the military likes 'em!
2/28/2004 5:40:24 AM EDT
[#8]
I've found no compelling reason to replace my original M68 (CompM-XD) with the newer model.  The latest model has superior battery life and if you don't have one of these sights already is the recommended model.

If you can get a like new CompM-XD for, say $200, jump on it, the new model ain't twice the sight and you can buy a lot of batteries for the price difference.

Avoid the "ML" models in any variety.  They have different optical coatings and tend to have more distorted dots than the M models exhibit.  Not many, but you're more likely to have a distorted dot on the "civilian" models for some reason.

-- Chuck
2/29/2004 7:24:29 AM EDT
[#9]
Well, I got the sight yesterday...

It has some finish wear and a couple of real MINOR blems(not noticeable unless you really look hard) on the ocular lens. No big deal, it works great.

It's actually a M68 CCO(aka CompM/XD). So for the price I paid, I think I did quite well.

I was going to put the Aimpoint on my AR, but after looking things over, it's going on my M1A. It sits lower on the rifle than the EO-Tech that I was going to use so I'll get a better cheek-weld with the Aimpoint. The EO-Tech is going to stay put on my AR.

My only complaint(and it's minor) with the whole thing is...battery availibility. I couldn't find any at the Wal-Mart near me, so I had to go to the Radio Shack across the street from the Wal-Mart. Life is [u]SO[/u] hard...[;)]

Anyway, Thanks for all the info!
2/29/2004 7:42:46 AM EDT
[#10]
I don't think you can wrong for $150. Enjoy the CompM, I'm sure it will serve you well.
2/29/2004 8:35:32 AM EDT
[#11]
$150 for an XD with mount is a terrific deal.

Don't worry about the blemishes. I like my stuff to at least look like I know how to use it.

That 'hot-out-of-the-box' look just screams [newbie]
2/29/2004 9:02:45 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Avoid the "ML" models in any variety.  They have different optical coatings and tend to have more distorted dots than the M models exhibit.  Not many, but you're more likely to have a distorted dot on the "civilian" models for some reason.
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I was under the impression that the only difference between the M2 and the ML2 was the night-vision settings.  You're talking about the ML and not the C, right?

jafager
2/29/2004 2:49:42 PM EDT
[#13]
One other thing I noticed is that the dot on the CompM/XD is a little dim and tends to wash out on a bright background.

If I'm having to engage bad guys wearing snow camo against a white background on a bright sunny day, I'm screwed...[;)]

Seriously, I noticed that the dot of the Aimpoint is a bit hard to pick up against a bright background. Is this normal?
2/29/2004 3:17:26 PM EDT
[#14]
I've shot against snowy backdrops on bright days. The only time I've had the dot wash out was when the background was blinding (sun peeking over the berm).

It sounds like you've installed a new battery so that's not the problem. You mentioned minor blemish on the lenses. Is it possible the coating on the optics is damaged?
2/29/2004 3:55:03 PM EDT
[#15]
No, the blems are real minor and only on the ocular lens...that's not the problem.

The reticle on my EO-Tech is much brighter on it's highest setting than the Aimpoint is on it's highest setting.

I aimed the Aimpoint at a white storage shed in bright sunlight in my back yard and the dot was impossible to pick up. I had no problem seeing the EO-Tech's reticle...

3/1/2004 9:21:57 AM EDT
[#16]
Close the front cover on your M68 and use the 2 eyes sighting method. You can shoot into sun bright light and still see the dot against a black background.


JohnM at home
3/1/2004 10:19:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Good idea. With the cover closed it becomes an OEG.
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