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Posted: 8/2/2021 5:08:20 PM EST
Hey, Primary Arms - continuing off of the SLX 1x microprism thread here. Any news on that 3x, even a rough ballpark timeline? I'd love to see a worthwhile ~$300 ACOG competitor that actually looks the part.
VP
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 6:06:29 PM EST
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ditto
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 6:29:28 PM EST
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They do have their Gen 3 of the 3x prism optic.

Anyone have input on those?
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 9:53:39 PM EST
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Be nice to see a 4x for once.
Link Posted: 8/3/2021 10:33:16 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 2:40:44 AM EST
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I’m not sure on this but primary arms could be holding off on releasing the 3x micro prism because they still have the SLX 3x gen 3 in 5.56 still on preorder. They probably don’t want the two competing at the same time. I myself am holding out for the micro 3x
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 8:39:15 AM EST
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Vortex beat them to the punch.


Link Posted: 8/4/2021 1:29:44 PM EST
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I honestly wonder if they're using the same OEM supplier. I guess we'll see if the 3x also has 1 MOA adjustments like the Spitfire.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 1:57:15 PM EST
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Aside from the reticle, the Vortex has HD glass but non daylight bright illumination. Last I saw PA said they were going to have daylight bright illumination in their’s.

I’m personally more interested in a 5X with an offset MRDS, not top mounted. My old PA 5X lost a ton of optical clarity at about 250 yards, so I’m REALLY hoping they improve the glass like Vortex did.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 5:18:24 PM EST
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Nah Burris beat Vortex to the punch

Link Posted: 8/4/2021 5:20:14 PM EST
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So Burris was wise enough to sell it with a cantilever mount ?

I hope everyone else takes notes
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 5:23:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Not_a_tackdriver:
So Burris was wise enough to sell it with a cantilever mount ?

I hope everyone else takes notes
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Burris mount isn't removable/replaceable though.  The mount and optic are all one piece.  I don't understand that at all.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 5:27:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fowty:

Nah Burris beat Vortex to the punch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaWKFL6UcAISwQz.jpg
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 If they try really hard they might be able to squeeze a bigger logo on it.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 7:19:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1776-1865_RIP:
 If they try really hard they might be able to squeeze a bigger logo on it.
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Originally Posted By 1776-1865_RIP:
Originally Posted By Fowty:

Nah Burris beat Vortex to the punch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaWKFL6UcAISwQz.jpg
 If they try really hard they might be able to squeeze a bigger logo on it.

Uhh
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 8:46:27 PM EST
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Not much better for sure. Flat brim wearers running the product design/marketing departments at both.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 8:59:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1776-1865_RIP:
Not much better for sure. Flat brim wearers running the product design/marketing departments at both.
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Hey now, I love my athletic fit Vortex hipster hoodie.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:19:41 PM EST
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I’m torn between one of these options or another ta33
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:50:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fowty:

Nah Burris beat Vortex to the punch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaWKFL6UcAISwQz.jpg
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Or....

https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/Trihawk-Prism-Scope-3x30
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 11:02:23 PM EST
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The GLX 3x is $369. That's not far off your ~$300 and the quality over the Slx line is considerable.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 5:05:55 AM EST
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I don't think I'd call the Trihawk "mini/micro".
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 5:09:36 AM EST
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Lmao no.  That thing is 15 and a half ounces.

The Burris, Vortex and Primary Arms are only ~8 ounces with mount and battery.  Not even in the same class.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 7:36:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sixrocket:
I honestly wonder if they're using the same OEM supplier. I guess we'll see if the 3x also has 1 MOA adjustments like the Spitfire.
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I know specifications are subject to change but the 2021 New Product Catalog from PA shows the 3x as 0.25 MOA click value.  I guess we'll know for sure in a few months.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 7:47:03 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/5/2021 8:44:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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Link Posted: 8/5/2021 8:54:56 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/5/2021 12:35:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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Looks great. I know this is pretty subjective, but will this have higher quality glass than the legacy 3X prism?
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 12:52:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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Great news! Looking forward to the info.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 1:26:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fowty:

Lmao no.  That thing is 15 and a half ounces.

The Burris, Vortex and Primary Arms are only ~8 ounces with mount and battery.  Not even in the same class.
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Originally Posted By Fowty:

Lmao no.  That thing is 15 and a half ounces.

The Burris, Vortex and Primary Arms are only ~8 ounces with mount and battery.  Not even in the same class.


I was more thinking the expanded FOV and reticle/color choices rather than the mini/micro thing. I guess that's where the tradeoff is in size.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 2:02:59 PM EST
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LOL @ everyone giving the 1x MP a hard time for 1x clicks when the competitors have 1x clicks on 3x magnified prisms..
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 3:01:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Strela:


I was more thinking the expanded FOV and reticle/color choices rather than the mini/micro thing. I guess that's where the tradeoff is in size.
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Originally Posted By Strela:
Originally Posted By Fowty:

Lmao no.  That thing is 15 and a half ounces.

The Burris, Vortex and Primary Arms are only ~8 ounces with mount and battery.  Not even in the same class.


I was more thinking the expanded FOV and reticle/color choices rather than the mini/micro thing. I guess that's where the tradeoff is in size.



I was looking at the Trihawk but that thing sits way too high for my liking.
Vortex looks nice, but IIRC the battery life was something small like 150 hours... Sure it has an auto off but I dunno man.. Eww.

Waiting on the PA Micro 3x
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 3:33:05 PM EST
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I have the 3X Spitfire.  I also have an older 1X and 5X.  I like the 1X better and can hardly wait for my PA to ship.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 3:38:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fowty:

Nah Burris beat Vortex to the punch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaWKFL6UcAISwQz.jpg
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So which is is?  A prism, or a red dot?





The RT-1 also looks to be a red dot with no indication of a prism.  I are confused.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 6:35:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wildearp:




So which is is?  A prism, or a red dot?  

https://i.imgur.com/1DUb08B.png

https://i.imgur.com/T394quE.png

The RT-1 also looks to be a red dot with no indication of a prism.  I are confused.
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
Originally Posted By Fowty:

Nah Burris beat Vortex to the punch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaWKFL6UcAISwQz.jpg




So which is is?  A prism, or a red dot?  

https://i.imgur.com/1DUb08B.png

https://i.imgur.com/T394quE.png

The RT-1 also looks to be a red dot with no indication of a prism.  I are confused.

The RT-3 is a prism sight with an etched reticle.

I don't know about the RT-1 never had one of those, but looks like it's just a red dot.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 6:40:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wildearp:




So which is is?  A prism, or a red dot?  

https://i.imgur.com/1DUb08B.png

https://i.imgur.com/T394quE.png

The RT-1 also looks to be a red dot with no indication of a prism.  I are confused.
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Even optics planet has it listed as a 3x red dot,  no where does it say prism,  but its got the etched reticle..  Idk if someone at burris screwed up the mkting or what,  but it doesnt lend itself to confidence in the product...
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 7:11:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zaitsev9130:



Even optics planet has it listed as a 3x red dot,  no where does it say prism,  but its got the etched reticle..  Idk if someone at burris screwed up the mkting or what,  but it doesnt lend itself to confidence in the product...
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Originally Posted By Zaitsev9130:
Originally Posted By wildearp:




So which is is?  A prism, or a red dot?  

https://i.imgur.com/1DUb08B.png

https://i.imgur.com/T394quE.png

The RT-1 also looks to be a red dot with no indication of a prism.  I are confused.



Even optics planet has it listed as a 3x red dot,  no where does it say prism,  but its got the etched reticle..  Idk if someone at burris screwed up the mkting or what,  but it doesnt lend itself to confidence in the product...

It's a prism sight, I own one.  There's no mystery about it.

But like I said earlier, the built-in non-removeable mount is what I hate about it and why it ended up on a Sig 522 instead of something centerfire.

I don't know why they didn't design it with a removable Aimpont or ACOG pattern mount.  It really makes no sense.  It's a fantastic sight otherwise.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 9:02:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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Looks great so far can't wait to pre-order
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 9:47:08 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/5/2021 9:58:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MRW:
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That’s how I know these are still aways out because you aren’t parading one around dropping teasers (yet).      

Link Posted: 8/5/2021 9:59:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

Looks great. I know this is pretty subjective, but will this have higher quality glass than the legacy 3X prism?
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Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg

Looks great. I know this is pretty subjective, but will this have higher quality glass than the legacy 3X prism?


Also interested in the glass quality. Right now that seems to be the advantage to the vortex

Link Posted: 8/5/2021 10:20:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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Excellent! I'm looking forward to the preorder coming up.
Link Posted: 8/6/2021 3:50:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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Looks interesting
Link Posted: 8/7/2021 2:06:20 AM EST
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Vortex vs. PA 3x box test faceoff when?
Link Posted: 8/7/2021 7:24:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Vortex vs. PA 3x box test faceoff when?
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I don’t really care about box test though, once it’s sighted in I wouldn’t be touching it. I’m more interested in glass quality, daylight bright, etc

Link Posted: 8/7/2021 11:09:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/thumbnail_IMG_1487.jpg
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I am definitely in for at least one.

I can't wait for the update and hopefully a chance to preorder.

Thanks,

Matt
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 8:03:59 AM EST
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If it was a GLX i would Get one but a SLX I’ll stick with a better prism like Steiner and Trijicon.

I am going to buy a few 2x GLX for the better half and I .
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:38:49 AM EST
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Testing ongoing...
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:48:41 AM EST
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Testing ongoing...
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@Mrgunsngear

Please include in your review comparison of the eyebox to the TA33.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 3:26:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:


Good things come to those who wait. Our 3X has .25MOA adjustments and is our own from the ground up design. And our new logo.

I will get the latest ETA and post shortly.

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While you are getting that eta, could you also find out when they might have this with a green reticle? :)
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 6:01:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fowty:

It's a prism sight, I own one.  There's no mystery about it.

But like I said earlier, the built-in non-removeable mount is what I hate about it and why it ended up on a Sig 522 instead of something centerfire.

I don't know why they didn't design it with a removable Aimpont or ACOG pattern mount.  It really makes no sense.  It's a fantastic sight otherwise.
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I own one too, and I agree, the fixed mount takes away from what is otherwise a great sight.  I have to get my head down low to get a good sight picture on it.  I'm debating whether to keep it or sell it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 6:14:21 PM EST
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PA says there is no glass quality upgrade.

So with the Vortex you get better glass and mount options, with the PA you get daylight brightness. Kind of a shame we can’t get all at once but nothing is free in this world.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 6:36:01 PM EST
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Man these prices kill it for me. I want one to replace a 403B. That's all the real estate on this one so it has to be micro for me, but $400+? No thanks. Was hoping for sub $200 or close
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