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Posted: 2/19/2018 11:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Noice, noice. I need NV :(. I either need to materialize more money or stop building new guns for a while. I'd need something like a PVS-14 and a full power PEQ15 to get started... so, what, about $5k? I know fuck all about NV. I just see $5k and think, "That could be a CQBR w/ chopped Mk18 RIS II FSP or URGI/Mk8 10.3 and another SOCOM RC as a cherry on top :\" full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 12:27:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Originally Posted By krdt: Noice, noice. I need NV :(. I either need to materialize more money or stop building new guns for a while. I'd need something like a PVS-14 and a full power PEQ15 to get started... so, what, about $5k? I know fuck all about NV. I just see $5k and think, "That could be a CQBR w/ chopped Mk18 RIS II FSP or URGI/Mk8 10.3 and another SOCOM RC as a cherry on top :\" full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. 
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey?  but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 12:33:25 AM EDT
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Hey guys, getting rid of a TA01NSN for $599 if you’re looking for one for a clone. As always, discount to bros in this thread.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 4:31:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:13:09 AM EDT
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Except for the clone aspect, the MAWL beats the pants off of any other civi laser out there. I even dumped my full power PEQs once I got a MAWL. No more worries about getting it fixed, no worries about the man and or CID
seeing my shit and I get 90% of the same ability within the abilities of my guns.But, theoretically, airsoft battery boxes, would be were I would start looking. |
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POL
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:36:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Macpw]
[#6]
Are this a1 lowers? Some EOD Team
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:41:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw:
Are this a1 lowers? https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UYKw3kZ2HkjhvPYBRaRdbWsIDpdb_U_- https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1baRajZiDTYVhk5KiLAl4fw3RKUSMVZnY |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:02:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw:
Are this a1 lowers? Some EOD Team https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UYKw3kZ2HkjhvPYBRaRdbWsIDpdb_U_- https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1baRajZiDTYVhk5KiLAl4fw3RKUSMVZnY |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:11:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Macpw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThRob: Definitely looks like it, check out the profiles on the front pivot pin area and the lack of reinforcement where the buffer tube screws in. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:35:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw:
Are this a1 lowers? Some EOD Team https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UYKw3kZ2HkjhvPYBRaRdbWsIDpdb_U_- https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1baRajZiDTYVhk5KiLAl4fw3RKUSMVZnY |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 12:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThRob]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw: I was not sure, early a2 lower had this profile but you are right, lack of reinforcement at the back. What would be the name of this setup? https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1WhDS4J3QxAX--CBCWCrxJFzevmNQOMwc Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw: I was not sure, early a2 lower had this profile but you are right, lack of reinforcement at the back. What would be the name of this setup? https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1WhDS4J3QxAX--CBCWCrxJFzevmNQOMwc Originally Posted By usnguns:
Tons of A1s were rebuilt into Mk18s and M4A1s at Crane. If i remember correctly there is a wiki page that shows a female in the Navy shooting a basic mk18 with an old school a1 lower. Which reminds me, that might be a fun build one day 
Edit: found the pic 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 1:09:51 PM EDT
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Apologies if this has come up (read the OP and didn't see anything), but 1) anyone know which slings were issued with CQBR Block I/IIs, and 2) if latter gen LMT stocks are being used on Block IIs?
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Posted: 2/20/2018 2:35:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 2:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Now $30 is something I could budget for, lol. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 4:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Problem with the Vampire route is you'd have no laser. And with helmet mounted NODs that makes NV with rifle almost useless. If you got a weapon mount for your PVS, and mounted it behind your EOTech, then you'd be good. But just remember for helmet mounted you need I.R. illum and I.R. laser. At least if you want to be able to aim without trying to play monkey fucking a football aligning a helmet mounted PVS with an optic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money. This is a "down the road" purchase anyway. Pretty much already decided the next money pit will be URGI 10.3 clone - when the rail/URG becomes available. I was already wanting to do an Mk8 10.3 build, but at this point I might as well just wait for the Mk16 and do it right. Hell, I still need to swap the LT150 on the Mod 0 for a Wilcox and get a tan G33 for my CQBR. Shit never ends :\. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 4:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Problem with the Vampire route is you'd have no laser. And with helmet mounted NODs that makes NV with rifle almost useless. If you got a weapon mount for your PVS, and mounted it behind your EOTech, then you'd be good. But just remember for helmet mounted you need I.R. illum and I.R. laser. At least if you want to be able to aim without trying to play monkey fucking a football aligning a helmet mounted PVS with an optic  Attached FileNow, I think technically with that combo, it is either about the same height or exactly the same height as just using an EXPS, but still, lol. So much easier to see through optic with NODs if you have optic up higher. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 4:45:57 PM EDT
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HK416 is taller than an normal M4. So the XPS and Wilcox riser is about on par with an EXPS, but those Wilcox risers are again on HK416s which are taller. So overall - that setup is sitting taller than a Block II with no riser.
Also - I shoot more with my EOTech under NODs than I do with the laser. It's not useless. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 4:56:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnySasaki20]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
HK416 is taller than an normal M4. So the XPS and Wilcox riser is about on par with an EXPS, but those Wilcox risers are again on HK416s which are taller. So overall - that setup is sitting taller than a Block II with no riser. Also - I shoot more with my EOTech under NODs than I do with the laser. It's not useless. Edit: I'm wrong anyway. I can't get the 553 to fit on the rail without totally removing the La-5 and switch setup, but even sitting on top of the rails it's slightly lower than the XPS + riser.  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 5:19:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Spooled]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Now $30 is something I could budget for, lol. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money. The illuminator is shit though. eta: I'll get some pics later through the tube with both illuminators |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 5:33:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Now $30 is something I could budget for, lol. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 5:47:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnySasaki20]
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Yeah, I mean, you can get a surefire or something with a vampire head and use that as your illuminator, but a peq15/la-5 illuminator looks and works entirely different. The IR flashlight is going to be a flood, so everything is lit up, and that fucks with the gain on the NOD's, so everything that isn't lit up by that flood light is now in darkness. That generally means everything up close is lit up, but everything outside basically 50-100yds (idk, guesstimate) will likely be much darker. The peq15/la-5 illuminators are not floods unless you want them to be (If you put the cap back on the illuminator, it sort of works like a flood, but it's still different), they're basically adjustable spot lights, and don't really change the gain on your nods. So it lights up the thing you're aiming at, and that's it.
Think of it this way. The illuminators are basically just higher powered lasers that you can defocus. A flashlight is sending light out in every which way. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 5:58:11 PM EDT
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Unless I replaced my M300C with a Vampire, I'd be getting it as much for the illuminator as the laser. I suppose a C and Vampire would be the most cost effective, but it sounds like a full power PEQ-15 might be better suited for my intended uses - mainly shooting wascally desert creatures at night (coyotes, jackrabbits, etc.). Obviously need to do a lot more research before I jump into anything, but I appreciate all the input.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:10:01 PM EDT
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I've got a strange urge to clone Ninja's MK18 from the movie Chappie next. What color rattle can is that, School Bus Yellow? What Elcan is that?
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TREETOP:
I've got a strange urge to clone Ninja's MK18 from the movie Chappie next. What color rattle can is that, School Bus Yellow? What Elcan is that? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG_3981_JPG-458724.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG_3982_JPG-458725.jpg |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TREETOP:
I've got a strange urge to clone Ninja's MK18 from the movie Chappie next. What color rattle can is that, School Bus Yellow? What Elcan is that? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG_3981_JPG-458724.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG_3982_JPG-458725.jpg |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:53:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Unless I replaced my M300C with a Vampire, I'd be getting it as much for the illuminator as the laser. I suppose a C and Vampire would be the most cost effective, but it sounds like a full power PEQ-15 might be better suited for my intended uses - mainly shooting wascally desert creatures at night (coyotes, jackrabbits, etc.). Obviously need to do a lot more research before I jump into anything, but I appreciate all the input. I used the onboard PVS illum and/or my Surefire I.R./white helmet lights for the small stuff. PEQ-15 HIGH/HIGH setting for everything else. I did also have a USGI weapon mount that I would mount my PVS on behind my comp m2. I really enjoyed that setup as well but helmet mounted is superior IMO |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
HK416 is taller than an normal M4. So the XPS and Wilcox riser is about on par with an EXPS, but those Wilcox risers are again on HK416s which are taller. So overall - that setup is sitting taller than a Block II with no riser. Also - I shoot more with my EOTech under NODs than I do with the laser. It's not useless. I tried it a couple of times, had to bend my neck all fucky, kept smacking the PVS all over the optic, said fuck this. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:23:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Problem with the Vampire route is you'd have no laser. And with helmet mounted NODs that makes NV with rifle almost useless. If you got a weapon mount for your PVS, and mounted it behind your EOTech, then you'd be good. But just remember for helmet mounted you need I.R. illum and I.R. laser. At least if you want to be able to aim without trying to play monkey fucking a football aligning a helmet mounted PVS with an optic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money. 
That's when you just aim with tracers.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:52:19 PM EDT
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Heres the 1st round of pics, its not very dark out and the distance is about 25 yards. Ill take some more after while at longer distances. I have a lot of ambient light around my house so its hard to get the best comparison.
The images are taken through an iPhone X, they aren't even close to the quality i am viewing through the PVS14. Don't get me wrong id love a peq 15 but i can't justify the cost and lack of warranty for the environments and distances i shoot at. Pointer only 
Pointer and illuminator 
Pointer, illuminator and surefire m300V 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:04:21 PM EDT
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How does the MAWL compare? Just out of curiosity...
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:07:36 PM EDT
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Can only guess on distance, somewhere around 60-75 yards?
Pointer only 
Pointer and illuminator 
Pointer and m300V 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:13:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
How does the MAWL compare? Just out of curiosity... I don't plan to pick one up at the moment but i might in the future. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:41:15 PM EDT
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How easy is it to obtain a full powered PEQ-15?
I was pretty much planning on saving up for a MAWL. I'm totally green (get it?) to NV/NODs, etc. but wanted to basically just go for the gold and be done with it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket:
How easy is it to obtain a full powered PEQ-15? I was pretty much planning on saving up for a MAWL. I'm totally green (get it?) to NV/NODs, etc. but wanted to basically just go for the gold and be done with it. ebay almost always has some, many have the serial numbers ground off.... |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:58:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
With your NODs helmet mounted though? I tried it a couple of times, had to bend my neck all fucky, kept smacking the PVS all over the optic, said fuck this. 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Can only guess on distance, somewhere around 60-75 yards? Pointer only https://i.imgur.com/Jj4NIEX.jpg Pointer and illuminator https://i.imgur.com/MfV5qxq.jpg Pointer and m300V https://i.imgur.com/F0VuIln.jpg Anyway, this is just straight pvs-15. No illumination, no laser. Range is maybe 10yds max.:  Attached FileThis is pvs-15 with a wmx200 illuminator (an overpriced IR flashlight). It might work out to 50yds if it's pitch black out. Any lights and it's workable range is maybe 10-20yds.:  Attached FileAnd here is the lowest setting on the peq-15 (laser and illuminator). I forget what the lowest IR setting is, as far as power goes. TNVC always seems to be off on their numbers, and I don't feel like looking for the manual atm, but it's probably around 3.0mW on the illuminator and 0.6 on the laser (you can't even see the laser in the pic, but it is clearly visible in person):  Attached FileNow I didn't edit those in any way other than to crop them. I didn't even bother taking a high power picture, as it's already washed out on the low power. It obviously looks better in person, but the illuminator dims with distance, and that's why the higher power is needed. It dims much faster than you'd think. Frankly, this looks fine in person. As in not washed out at all. I wanted to take a picture of it at greater range, but some light on the house I was going to aim it at washes everything out on camera, to the point of the low power not even showing up. Again, looks fine in person, but I guess cameras, and phone cameras in general aren't all that great at translating this sort of thing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte: Helmet mounted. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4629/26503088408_37cb9f899a_h.jpg 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:15:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte: Helmet mounted. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4629/26503088408_37cb9f899a_h.jpg 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:52:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: Looks like a gen 2 su230 and a peq16. No idea on the suppressor or flashlight though. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:04:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: Yeah, I'm outside in my backyard right now. I really can't take any pictures that will show you the difference on camera. Maybe if I concocted some tripod setup with a DSLR, I MIGHT be able to find something that somewhat resembles what you see in person, but even then I'm doubtful. Anyway, this is just straight pvs-15. No illumination, no laser. Range is maybe 10yds max.: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260264/LRM_EXPORT_20180220_221557-459086.JPG This is pvs-15 with a wmx200 illuminator (an overpriced IR flashlight). It might work out to 50yds if it's pitch black out. Any lights and it's workable range is maybe 10-20yds.: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260264/LRM_EXPORT_20180220_221329-459094.JPG And here is the lowest setting on the peq-15 (laser and illuminator). I forget what the lowest IR setting is, as far as power goes. TNVC always seems to be off on their numbers, and I don't feel like looking for the manual atm, but it's probably around 3.0mW on the illuminator and 0.6 on the laser (you can't even see the laser in the pic, but it is clearly visible in person): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260264/LRM_EXPORT_20180220_223559-459122.JPG Now I didn't edit those in any way other than to crop them. I didn't even bother taking a high power picture, as it's already washed out on the low power. It obviously looks better in person, but the illuminator dims with distance, and that's why the higher power is needed. It dims much faster than you'd think. Frankly, this looks fine in person. As in not washed out at all. I wanted to take a picture of it at greater range, but some light on the house I was going to aim it at washes everything out on camera, to the point of the low power not even showing up. Again, looks fine in person, but I guess cameras, and phone cameras in general aren't all that great at translating this sort of thing. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 11:41:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: Yeah, I'm aware of the built in riser on the 416's. I meant, that aside, if you put an EXPS and an XPS with that riser setup on any gun, I think it would be at or roughly the same height. But my original point was that risers make passive shooting a lot easier. Edit: I'm wrong anyway. I can't get the 553 to fit on the rail without totally removing the La-5 and switch setup, but even sitting on top of the rails it's slightly lower than the XPS + riser. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/260264/LRM_EXPORT_20180220_160448-458661.JPG but I have some neck issues from flying with a bunch of crap mounted on my helmet for ten hours at a time, so not have to crane my neck is totally awesome and for reference, if you like the RB1 KAC skyscraper mount, an LT101 with an EXPS3 will put the centerline of the eotech at the same height as the RB1 mount and an aimpoint at 3.5 inches above the bore, or at least that's how my math worked out and playing around with the mounts and optics and looking through them |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:14:12 PM EDT
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Johnny and Spooled, thanks for the comparison pics. While I realize most cameras just don't have sensors capable of accurately displaying night vision as seen by the human eye, it's still interesting nonetheless. I'm surprised the WMX200 barely even shows a difference, although I'm guessing it's more obvious in person. The M300V definitely shows up, but then there is the PEQ-15, lol. BOM BOM BOM. Fucking eye burning IR beam floodlight of death, heh. I see what you mean that the flashlight illuminators offer a higher spill general illumination to a given range, whereas the PEQ-15 is more of a targeted illuminator at distance. Makes sense, really.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:20:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Try doing all of that with 7's and iron-sighted A2/4's.
That's when you just aim with tracers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money.
That's when you just aim with tracers.
Least they could've done is throw an M5 RAS and a PEQ-2 your way. Assholes.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:34:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Johnny and Spooled, thanks for the comparison pics. While I realize most cameras just don't have sensors capable of accurately displaying night vision as seen by the human eye, it's still interesting nonetheless. I'm surprised the WMX200 barely even shows a difference, although I'm guessing it's more obvious in person. The M300V definitely shows up, but then there is the PEQ-15, lol. BOM BOM BOM. Fucking eye burning IR beam floodlight of death, heh. I see what you mean that the flashlight illuminators offer a higher spill general illumination to a given range, whereas the PEQ-15 is more of a targeted illuminator at distance. Makes sense, really. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:50:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Will not do!
Least they could've done is throw an M5 RAS and a PEQ-2 your way. Assholes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money.
That's when you just aim with tracers.
Least they could've done is throw an M5 RAS and a PEQ-2 your way. Assholes.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:29:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
This was back in very early 2000's in a non-combat arms unit. We thought the brass was cool shit when they got the carry handle mount for the M2 that put it out over the handguards. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money.
That's when you just aim with tracers.
Least they could've done is throw an M5 RAS and a PEQ-2 your way. Assholes.
I love those mounts but the only rail I haven't damn near needed a cheater bar to open/close the lever on was a beat to shit "surplus" RAS. Everything else I feel like I'm about to snap the arm off lol |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:24:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Well on the bright side I guess at least you didn't have to deal with that pesky ARMS 17 mount that was on your dbal later on.
I love those mounts but the only rail I haven't damn near needed a cheater bar to open/close the lever on was a beat to shit "surplus" RAS. Everything else I feel like I'm about to snap the arm off lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Scored my pvs14 for 30 bucks on a 9minded raffle lol, that's the only reason I have night vision. full power laser isn't necessary but would be nice. The vampire light works great compared to the c illuminator. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: 30 dollar PVS-14. Man.
I will say I think krdt should hold out for full power. (If you want to call a PEQ-15 that, technically the LA-5C is full powered )Going from a PEQ to using an ATPIAL-C kind of felt like messing with a toy. The illuminator is how you say......el ghey? but much better than nothing of course. Gotta love stupid restrictions, can buy guns but no quality IR lasers. Don't want to fry a retina even tho you can fucking SHOOT somebody in the eyeball instead. I kinda already want an ATPIAL to finish off the CQBR, but I can't see spending $1200 on a C model that is apparently barely even usable. Definitely not interested in spending that kinda money and adding weight to the gun for looks alone. So, I figure I might as well get something that would actually be usable with NV. If I didn't go the full power route I'd probably just go with a Vampire to save weight and money.
That's when you just aim with tracers.
Least they could've done is throw an M5 RAS and a PEQ-2 your way. Assholes.
I love those mounts but the only rail I haven't damn near needed a cheater bar to open/close the lever on was a beat to shit "surplus" RAS. Everything else I feel like I'm about to snap the arm off lol 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:29:43 PM EDT
[#48]
For those of you looking M300 Mini Scout 500 in TAN limited run of 1000
https://shootingsurplus.com/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lumen-tan/?mc_cid=e92d0160ca&mc_eid=64a0ba4924 |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:32:09 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TREETOP:
I've got a strange urge to clone Ninja's MK18 from the movie Chappie next. What color rattle can is that, School Bus Yellow? What Elcan is that? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG_3981_JPG-458724.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG_3982_JPG-458725.jpg |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:36:26 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kidnap_44:
Freedom intensifies. With the exception of Websters Parachute Infantry, all the hard copies are signed by the respective veterans, most first editition, first print. Tonight We Die As Men is near and dear to my heart. Yes, book nerd as well as cloner.
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