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Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:13:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2016 9:17:41 PM EST by MS556]
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:21:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.
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Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:25:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2016 9:28:36 PM EST by chenault]
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

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There are literally now three pages to read, really just the top of the first one.  Yes the standards are rigid, but that's why there are Recce and SPR threads that are kind of a general show off threads, within the set limits.  Anyone can participate in this thread, but we do require you follow the rules; you don't show up to a baseball game and get offended when they tell you that your Formula 1 car isn't allowed onto the field.

If you're getting hurt by the level of hazing that you've seen so far, long hard road for you I feel.
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:26:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MS556:



Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  





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How about reading 1 page?  Hell, one post.











 
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:27:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MS556:
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.

Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:33:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2016 9:40:26 PM EST by chenault]
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Originally Posted By MS556:


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MS556:
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.

Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.


I have read all of your post and in not one post did you ask for help.  In the first you asked if it was a Holland or Recce, to which I responded Recce.  There is a clear list of what works on the first post, if you see a part that is similar but isn't that part and are wondering if the "kind of close" part will work it wont.  

Now, lets not waste anymore energy on this, if you want specific help feel free to IM me, I'll do as much as I can to help.


Wheelman that's badass, I love how you took parts of your MOD 0 and make it into a Holland.

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Link Posted: 10/10/2016 9:34:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MS556:


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MS556:
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.

Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.


I'll help you if you delete the picture...

Seriously, and tell the truth....you had no clue your rifle was not even close to a Mod H?
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 10:20:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chenault:





Wheelman that's badass, I love how you took parts of your MOD 0 and make it into a Holland.


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Anything worth doin'...









 
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 10:40:59 PM EST
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Anything worth doin'...

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Originally Posted By chenault:

Wheelman that's badass, I love how you took parts of your MOD 0 and make it into a Holland.

Anything worth doin'...

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Don't tempt me with this voodoo.
Link Posted: 10/10/2016 11:32:35 PM EST
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Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this.  The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe".
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Please tell, is this relating to the Noveske barrels some rifles wore? I mean you have had relations with Noveske, yes? We've not seen much on the angle of why some rifles had Noveske and others apparently didn't.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 5:51:55 AM EST
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.



...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

Link Posted: 10/11/2016 7:28:20 AM EST
Three pages and only two shit posters (I'm looking at you stick )  Not bad...
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 7:50:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>

...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>
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That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 8:09:49 AM EST

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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:





  if i crack off 100rnds the forearm gets warm. i enjoy that.





twitchy i love those 3. i really wanna do a 12.5 sbr like the bottom one. i love that look

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Originally Posted By developer:

how hot does your pri rail get? on how many rds?



I shot maybe 6 mags yesterday on mine and it got noticeably hot (without a glove).



I'm thinking my shaved down FSB is still too big and contacting the rail somewhere and heating it up.


  if i crack off 100rnds the forearm gets warm. i enjoy that.





twitchy i love those 3. i really wanna do a 12.5 sbr like the bottom one. i love that look

Yea, that lower one is 10.5".  It started life as a Noveske 14.5" with the AEM5, but decided to go shorter, so now it's has an old SAS can to reduce length.  That damn can must weigh 2 pounds.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 9:08:36 AM EST
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That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>

...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>


That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 9:29:24 AM EST

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Three pages and only two shit posters (I'm looking at you stick )  Not bad...
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the ignore button. it works.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 12:52:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>

...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>


That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  

That's exactly how I felt. When I first saw one I thought that was the ugliest, dumbest, most useless piece of crap I'd ever seen and who in their right mind would put one on a gun.... now I have 4. They grow on you for sure. I think because I like the Holland so much, I ended up loving the stock.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 12:59:29 PM EST
cant wait to get back to mine on wed.




Link Posted: 10/11/2016 3:03:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

That's exactly how I felt. When I first saw one I thought that was the ugliest, dumbest, most useless piece of crap I'd ever seen and who in their right mind would put one on a gun.... now I have 4. They grow on you for sure. I think because I like the Holland so much, I ended up loving the stock.
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>

...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>


That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  

That's exactly how I felt. When I first saw one I thought that was the ugliest, dumbest, most useless piece of crap I'd ever seen and who in their right mind would put one on a gun.... now I have 4. They grow on you for sure. I think because I like the Holland so much, I ended up loving the stock.


They really do grow on you. And I thought the SOPMOD was comfortable... Consider me the loving mother of an ugly child.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 4:19:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MS556:


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MS556:
Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  

Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.

Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?


If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.

I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.


13ers
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 4:50:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>

...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>


That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  


They're so expensive though.  They better be good.  
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They're so expensive though.  They better be good.  
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:


Originally Posted By chenault:


Originally Posted By 8NAK4:

Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.



<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>



...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland



<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>




That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?





Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  





They're so expensive though.  They better be good.  




 
120-150 for the two we grabbed. and new.  thats pretty good.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 6:44:04 PM EST
I need one...I'll pay.
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Originally Posted By MS556:


Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:


Originally Posted By MS556:

Not a troll, merely trying to understand without having to read hundreds of pages.  Sorry if I offended guys.  Maybe the build fits nowhere "official."  I guess I am not up to yohr obscure, inscrutable standards which seem quite rigid in some respects and quite flexible in others.  



Maybe this should be an exclusive, "by invitation only" private club.


Have you ever even stepped into any of the other clone threads?




If I did (and yes) I did not encounter such elitist hostility, sir.  Not a very good way to educate people about the attributes of the build form.  Sorry again for taxing the impatience of the group.  Inquisitiveness is not trolling.  Perhaps I can figure out on my own how much of the build is mandatory and how much is subject to user modification.  I wish I could thank you all for your help, but none was offered.



I did read page 1 and have no reading comprehension issues.




13ers
Bro, your fancy words don't negate the fact that you are completely oblivious to the meaning of this thread. You lost, your wrong. Delete that picture that looks nothing like any Holland ever and Charlie Mike on outta here until your willing to play by the rules.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 8:12:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:

  120-150 for the two we grabbed. and new.  thats pretty good.
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Dropped the tear drop, went round. I know it makes Blue proud.

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/A110C6F1-E4E4-4B16-9119-0A52FE0742F2_zpsmgsgrwgt.jpg</a>

...aaaand a full body shot, because Holland

<a href="http://s968.photobucket.com/user/8NAK4/media/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/F10B6E94-6DE5-4F2A-8FBF-BFCC0E9D07A2_zpsu2b747n7.jpg</a>


That looks good enough to make me go ace.  How's the balance?


Awesome. I love it. I want Ace SOCOMs on all my guns now. No joke. It's comfortable, great cheek weld, awesome in the prone and standing. It really is a great, all around stock. They look goofy, but they grow on you.  


They're so expensive though.  They better be good.  

  120-150 for the two we grabbed. and new.  thats pretty good.

I paid 125.00 and 165.00 for the gen 1's, 130.00 for the gen 2 and 100.00 for the gen 3 or 4 whichever it is. I'm fixing to pull the gen 2 and a gen 1 apart to make a rifle length gen 1.
I'll post pics of the two gen 1 sling swivels tonight. Take a look at them HB. I'm curious what you think about why they are a little different.
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 8:26:05 PM EST
Ok, you little bastards won me over, I put a wanted ad up for an ACE (AKA the crutch, see pic below), if that doesn't pan out I'll go ACS. Daddy needs one, and what Daddy needs, Daddy gets.  

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Originally Posted By chenault:





Ok, you little bastards won me over, I put a wanted ad up for an ACE (AKA the crutch, see pic below), if that doesn't pan out I'll go ACS. Daddy needs one, and what Daddy needs, Daddy gets.  
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Lol.









Fuck ACE's. CAR or bust... I paid $7.95 for mine.












 








 
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Ok, you little bastards won me over, I put a wanted ad up for an ACE (AKA the crutch, see pic below), if that doesn't pan out I'll go ACS. Daddy needs one, and what Daddy needs, Daddy gets.  

http://<a href=http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/pcrunnels/307_small_Adult_Elbow_Crutch__7760p_zpsplmtsnpm.jpg</a>" />


Lol.

Fuck ACE's. CAR or bust... I paid $7.95 for mine.


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszgoaac2z.jpeg
 

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I'm with you.  I had the socom on but took it off and put it on the block 2.  So far I'm liking the car on the H.
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I'm with you.  I had the socom on but took it off and put it on the block 2.  So far I'm liking the car on the H.
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:


Originally Posted By chenault:

Ok, you little bastards won me over, I put a wanted ad up for an ACE (AKA the crutch, see pic below), if that doesn't pan out I'll go ACS. Daddy needs one, and what Daddy needs, Daddy gets.  



http://<a href=http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/pcrunnels/307_small_Adult_Elbow_Crutch__7760p_zpsplmtsnpm.jpg</a>" />





Lol.



Fuck ACE's. CAR or bust... I paid $7.95 for mine.





http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszgoaac2z.jpeg

 



http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8183_zpsatcdgfec.jpg

 


I'm with you.  I had the socom on but took it off and put it on the block 2.  So far I'm liking the car on the H.




 
so far i have rocked:




A1: fine but not H approved

N1 CAR: looks tits. sucks for precision shots. lightest stock

ACS: feels good prone. heavy. long.

SOPMOD: great stock. kinda crappy prone.

ACE SOCOM: light, great for prone. wears out unless you make it fixed style.

CTR: good stock....didnt have it for the H. no issues. I wanna try one again.









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wears out unless you make it fixed style.
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Please explain. How does it wear out and how does it become "fixed". I was strongly considering buying a fourth gen soon. Same issues as first gen?
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Please explain. How does it wear out and how does it become "fixed". I was strongly considering buying a fourth gen soon. Same issues as first gen?


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wears out unless you make it fixed style.








Please explain. How does it wear out and how does it become "fixed". I was strongly considering buying a fourth gen soon. Same issues as first gen?


I think the play in aluminum parts, especially the "catch" that holds the stock in different positions, is prone to wear over time - to the point where the stock may actually collapse from one setting to the next with very little force on the buttpad. A screw/bolt of some kind in the stock can be used to wedge the stock in a setting, fixing it in place and largely removing the play in the assembly that inherently wears. Downside is, you've now lost the ability to quickly change LOP. Not sure if the later Gens have the same wear issues...
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these notches blow through. you can already see it rolling over...and thats about 3 months use. terrible. the reason for the generation changes was to beef up this area. mine is the worn one. the other one is a new one i was machining. i went to lowes and got a pull-spring and clipped it to length and made it like a spacer. just swap the regular spring out for that one and tighten till the adjuster block clamps on the tube. its TIGHT now. i just did that before i ruined the tube.






 
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these notches blow through. you can already see it rolling over...and thats about 3 months use. terrible. the reason for the generation changes was to beef up this area. mine is the worn one. the other one is a new one i was machining. i went to lowes and got a pull-spring and clipped it to length and made it like a spacer. just swap the regular spring out for that one and tighten till the adjuster block clamps on the tube. its TIGHT now. i just did that before i ruined the tube.
 
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Thank you for the pics and explanation, I see exactly what your talking about.  It's a wonder so many of the issued ones lasted for so long.
Link Posted: 10/12/2016 1:02:38 PM EST
Good to know. Appreciate the explanations.
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Ok, you little bastards won me over, I put a wanted ad up for an ACE (AKA the crutch, see pic below), if that doesn't pan out I'll go ACS. Daddy needs one, and what Daddy needs, Daddy gets.  

http://<a href=http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/pcrunnels/307_small_Adult_Elbow_Crutch__7760p_zpsplmtsnpm.jpg</a>" />


Lol.

Fuck ACE's. CAR or bust... I paid $7.95 for mine.


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszgoaac2z.jpeg
 

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8183_zpsatcdgfec.jpg
 


Werd.  I like things cheap.  

My next precision shooting range session I'm gonna try the CAR.  But I may throw the rubber buttpad on there.  Seems like it transforms it and gives it more real estate for a rear bag.  And doesn't dig into the shoulder as much.  Although now that it's getting colder out, that's not that big of a deal.
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The CAR looks cool. It's def light. But the SOCOM is super comfy IMHO, AAAND it's got that whole weird/obscure/hard to find thing going for it. #ObtainableUnobtainium

To me, the appeal of the Holland is not only its mysterious interwebz based history, but it's cobbled together look (that really works in its favor) and it seems like a solid, lighter, more versatile, not to mention updated, MK12 platform. After building mine, I'm glad I stuck it out and went with the SOCOM. It gives it that "no one knows what the fuck it is unless you're a MK12 Cloner" street cred. Plus, now that mine is done, the gun just works, I really love this setup for an SPR. It's everything I thought it would be; even for a cobbled together MK12 mutt.
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Link Posted: 10/12/2016 9:15:31 PM EST
havent seen it in over 2 weeks. its good to hold it again.....




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What barrel do you have there?
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What barrel do you have there?

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Originally Posted By CloneDiseased:

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What barrel do you have there?

Ballistic Advantage 16" stainless with ops contour.  



 
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
havent seen it in over 2 weeks. its good to hold it again.....

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Welcome home.  Love that photo
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i believe this is the holland with the later gen 2 socom stock. it is also rocking NF ultra lite rings. this also shows how allnthe painted parts are old Mod 0 Mk12. all holland parts are bare


 
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</a>i believe this is the holland with the later gen 2 socom stock. it is also rocking NF ultra lite rings. this also shows how allnthe painted parts are old Mod 0 Mk12. all holland parts are bare
 
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That is my favorite pic. That pic helped to make me decide to build the Holland.
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i believe this is the holland with the later gen 2 socom stock. it is also rocking NF ultra lite rings. this also shows how allnthe painted parts are old Mod 0 Mk12. all holland parts are bare

 
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This is the sole rifle keeping me from offloading the gen 2. Not sure about it, but it creates some daylight.
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Ballistic Advantage 16" stainless with ops contour.  
 
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What barrel do you have there?
Ballistic Advantage 16" stainless with ops contour.  
 


Thanks for the info.
Link Posted: 10/13/2016 9:12:34 PM EST
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Switched some shit up on my Mod Juan. Now I just need a GI trigger guard and A2 grip. Either way, I never realized how much bigger the Mod Juan is compared to Buddy Holly. The H def has size and weight savings in its corner, that's fo'sho.

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Switched some shit up on my Mod Juan. Now I just need a GI trigger guard and A2 grip. Either way, I never realized how much bigger the Mod Juan is compared to Buddy Holly. The H def has size and weight savings in its corner, that's fo'sho.



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Just my opinion - you should look into some scope rings and a recce rail. Result - profit
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Just my opinion - you should look into some scope rings and a recce rail. Result - profit
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Switched some shit up on my Mod Juan. Now I just need a GI trigger guard and A2 grip. Either way, I never realized how much bigger the Mod Juan is compared to Buddy Holly. The H def has size and weight savings in its corner, that's fo'sho.

iPotato Pic :
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Just my opinion - you should look into some scope rings and a recce rail. Result - profit


Hell no you shouldn't.  It looks fantastic
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Just my opinion - you should look into some scope rings and a recce rail. Result - profit
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Switched some shit up on my Mod Juan. Now I just need a GI trigger guard and A2 grip. Either way, I never realized how much bigger the Mod Juan is compared to Buddy Holly. The H def has size and weight savings in its corner, that's fo'sho.

iPotato Pic :
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/5468AB89-E432-4E37-A824-D1612E78838E_zpsmddijrwr.jpg
Just my opinion - you should look into some scope rings and a recce rail. Result - profit


Nah, I'm good. I'm in the LaRue Mount Holland Clone Club. We gotta represent all the Holland facets; Recce rails, SPR mounts, SOCOM stocks, SOPMOD stocks, etc...
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