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Posted: 10/30/2019 5:20:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5pt56]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Don't mod that vintage glass. It's easy enough to find the correct glass for a clone.  (Shameless plug)
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Posted: 10/30/2019 5:35:31 PM EDT
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@5pt56 @SecretSquirell I have two of them plus a 3x9. They were all bought at the same time to go on my Ruger M77 7mag, two more M77 mannlichers in 308 and 243. The 308 has some importance but the 243 can get cannibalized.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2019 6:46:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2019 6:55:55 PM EDT
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Early SPR and Mini Recce.
Took them out to 600m the other day. Both of them consistently hit 8" plate with IMI Razor Core. Also consistently landed hits on 2/3 size IPSC at 600m with MEN M193 through the Mini 
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USA
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Posted: 10/30/2019 11:48:56 PM EDT
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AR, USA
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Posted: 10/31/2019 6:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Just a quick update. Just got prices from the printer. This is just an estimate but it looks like what I’ll do is a package deal. The package will contain: 1-MK12 MOD 1 operator manual 1-MK12 MOD 0/1 operator manual 1- heavy laminated ballistic card for Black Hills 77gr MK262 2- round count log books |
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Posted: 10/31/2019 7:09:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2019 12:24:25 AM EDT
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OG SPR...Original fsgb, handguard, OPS INC 12th model... etc.
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Posted: 11/1/2019 1:34:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56:
OG SPR...Original fsgb, handguard, OPS INC 12th model... etc. https://i.imgur.com/YXXitAC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dffnXIX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/w7QwZKp.jpg Still needs those side holes filled in on the handguard, and if you really want to get froggy be like @Hunterex and fill in alternating slots on that #38 to mimic the SPR-MOD rails with the weaver style double spaced section. And I'm sure you're already trying to track down an illuminated Vari-X of course, bonus if you find some 62gr M855 M3 turrets somehow. Oh, and it'd be cooler with an A2 grip. Really haven't seen the OG SPRs with the A1s, unless you're just doing some swapping around. |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 9:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Coming along nicely! Still needs those side holes filled in on the handguard, and if you really want to get froggy be like @Hunterex and fill in alternating slots on that #38 to mimic the SPR-MOD rails with the weaver style double spaced section. And I'm sure you're already trying to track down an illuminated Vari-X of course, bonus if you find some 62gr M855 M3 turrets somehow. Oh, and it'd be cooler with an A2 grip. Really haven't seen the OG SPRs with the A1s, unless you're just doing some swapping around. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By 5pt56:
OG SPR...Original fsgb, handguard, OPS INC 12th model... etc. https://i.imgur.com/YXXitAC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dffnXIX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/w7QwZKp.jpg Still needs those side holes filled in on the handguard, and if you really want to get froggy be like @Hunterex and fill in alternating slots on that #38 to mimic the SPR-MOD rails with the weaver style double spaced section. And I'm sure you're already trying to track down an illuminated Vari-X of course, bonus if you find some 62gr M855 M3 turrets somehow. Oh, and it'd be cooler with an A2 grip. Really haven't seen the OG SPRs with the A1s, unless you're just doing some swapping around. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2019 3:29:15 PM EDT
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Question for the group, regarding the Mod 0 vs Mod H in terms of accuracy. Is there any ballistic advantage for the extra 2" of barrel provided by a Mod 0/1? Lots of people like the Mod H for its improved handling and say that it is just as accurate/effective. Is there no advantage to having a (even slightly) longer barrel in terms of accuracy/external ballistics?
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Posted: 11/3/2019 4:09:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aybear:
Question for the group, regarding the Mod 0 vs Mod H in terms of accuracy. Is there any ballistic advantage for the extra 2" of barrel provided by a Mod 0/1? Lots of people like the Mod H for its improved handling and say that it is just as accurate/effective. Is there no advantage to having a (even slightly) longer barrel in terms of accuracy/external ballistics? There are a bunch of other variables that affect accuracy. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2019 4:32:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5: There are a ton of articles on the net that deal with velocity and barrel length. With out looking I think there is roughly a 100+/- fps difference drop between 18" and 16" barrels in 5.56. There are a bunch of other variables that affect accuracy. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 4:34:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2019 4:37:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2019 9:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: 
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Posted: 11/3/2019 10:06:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2019 10:07:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 100roundclipazine]
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Posted: 11/3/2019 11:02:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYour face...I hate it. 
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Posted: 11/5/2019 10:49:53 PM EDT
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Went to a Luau this past weekend
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Posted: 11/5/2019 11:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe best Luau! Such a sexy gun!!
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DE, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:17:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: THEdtw]
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Wound up with an extra ff ras and would like to turn it into an fde pri gen iii if anyone's interested.
 Mine is used.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:53:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wildman0723]
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Wish I would have known about that before I sold my FDE rail.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:06:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/7/2019 12:33:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoubleTap556:
@RTUtah what colors did you use for your camo pattern it looks great |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 2:32:18 PM EDT
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I just left the printer and viewed the manual proofs. Everything will be ready the end of next week. My Selina is one book is taking a little longer because I got it late and had no PDF for it. I don’t know if I should just wait or do two shipments. I know everybody has been waiting for these. I will come up with how to do this and get them to everyone and post in a couple days. Below is a pic of the extra book I wasn’t sure I was going to be able to get but thanks to a fellow mk12 cloner I was able to get one and get it to the printer. Anyway just wanted to update. Not much longer. I will probably start the list Monday. I want to stay ahead on this.
Also if anyone has an ARMS #36 S-EX top rail I need one big time. As in $$$$$.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 2:34:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
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And actually I have no idea if that tube data book goes with the mk12 or not or why it’s used. Maybe someone here knows something about it or has used one can tell us. Only one I know of is on eBay. I know it’s record keeping for a weapon but that’s all I know.
I thought maybe since it said part 2 it went with the round count log book. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 2:57:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
And actually I have no idea if that tube data book goes with the mk12 or not or why it’s used. Maybe someone here knows something about it or has used one can tell us. Only one I know of is on eBay. I know it’s record keeping for a weapon but that’s all I know. I thought maybe since it said part 2 it went with the round count log book. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 4:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I just left the printer and viewed the manual proofs. Everything will be ready the end of next week. My Selina is one book is taking a little longer because I got it late and had no PDF for it. I don’t know if I should just wait or do two shipments. I know everybody has been waiting for these. I will come up with how to do this and get them to everyone and post in a couple days. Below is a pic of the extra book I wasn’t sure I was going to be able to get but thanks to a fellow mk12 cloner I was able to get one and get it to the printer. Anyway just wanted to update. Not much longer. I will probably start the list Monday. I want to stay ahead on this. Also if anyone has an ARMS #36 S-EX top rail I need one big time. As in $$$$$. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/330914/807795DD-DD53-4961-B33B-FDD09CC8AB98_jpeg-1152295.JPG 
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Posted: 11/10/2019 2:28:37 PM EDT
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just getting started on my MK12 mod 1 build...Bill
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2019 5:37:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bimmertech87]
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Hey guys I’ve been following this thread for a long time and am hoping to pick up a mod1 upper and AEM5 next month. My question is if you were in my shoes, would you buy a used upper off the EE, a complete upper from HCS which is about as correct as it can go, or a upper from Thorough Bred. My concern with going used is you don’t know how the previous owner cleaned it and no support should it shoot like crap. I like the idea of a HCS upper but it’s the priciest at almost $1600 shipped. I just found Thorough Bred and everything looks correct, but I have never seen them mentioned before. They are a bit cheaper and I plan on using a bcg that I already have on hand, I’ll just need to grab a charging handle.
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Posted: 11/10/2019 5:50:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87:
Hey guys I’ve been following this thread for a long time and am hoping to pick up a mod1 upper and AEM5 next month. My question is if you were in my shoes, would you buy a used upper off the EE, a complete upper from HCS which is about as correct as it can go, or a upper from Thorough Bred. My concern with going used is you don’t know how the previous owner cleaned it and no support should it shoot like crap. I like the idea of a HCS upper but it’s the priciest at almost $1600 shipped. I just found Thorough Bred and everything looks correct, but I have never seen them mentioned before. They are a bit cheaper and I plan on using a bcg that I already have on hand, I’ll just need to grab a charging handle. Any thoughts? |
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Posted: 11/10/2019 9:15:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87:
Hey guys I’ve been following this thread for a long time and am hoping to pick up a mod1 upper and AEM5 next month. My question is if you were in my shoes, would you buy a used upper off the EE, a complete upper from HCS which is about as correct as it can go, or a upper from Thorough Bred. My concern with going used is you don’t know how the previous owner cleaned it and no support should it shoot like crap. I like the idea of a HCS upper but it’s the priciest at almost $1600 shipped. I just found Thorough Bred and everything looks correct, but I have never seen them mentioned before. They are a bit cheaper and I plan on using a bcg that I already have on hand, I’ll just need to grab a charging handle. Any thoughts? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2019 10:05:46 PM EDT
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Quote History@RTUtah
Off topic, can you give me a schooling on the paint jobs in the center pics. I’m trying to get up enough nerve to paint some rifles and I really like this darker, blended look more so than the tans, especially for my area. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2019 10:56:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale:
Getting off the EE isnt a bad idea, at least I dont think it is. Worst case, you need to find yourself a new barrel. Dont know much of Thorough Bred. Is HCS still pumping out uppers? Last I spoke with Kevin, he was dwindling things down |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2019 10:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Thoroughbred are good to go, I've had good dealings with them and they aren't bananas on their pricing. |
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Posted: 11/10/2019 11:49:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyPilot12]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87: Good to hear, I’m really liking this option the best. They also seem to have the best price on a AEM5 I’ve seen. My dealer is supposed to be trying to track me one down but wasn’t sure if he could get a single unit from Allen engineering. https://www.esilencers.com/product/allen-engineering-aem5-knurling/ |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 12:29:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87: Good to hear, I’m really liking this option the best. They also seem to have the best price on a AEM5 I’ve seen. My dealer is supposed to be trying to track me one down but wasn’t sure if he could get a single unit from Allen engineering. ETA: ArmyPilot's post is better price than HCS |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 12:36:50 AM EDT
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You also can get the AEM5 knurled from Thorobred. Email them and ask for a package price for the upper/suppressor. He has put the AEM5's on sale a couple of times recently.
I paid $550 for mine from another clone vendor by paying by check instead of credit card/debit card. Deals can be found. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/11/2019 8:53:50 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/11/2019 12:32:28 PM EDT
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Anyone have an extra or just want to get rid of a Gen Juan Socom stock? Really need one to finish my build.
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Posted: 11/11/2019 10:02:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
@RTUtah Off topic, can you give me a schooling on the paint jobs in the center pics. I'm trying to get up enough nerve to paint some rifles and I really like this darker, blended look more so than the tans, especially for my area. Beyond that, the paint really won't look right until it gets scuffed up and covered in oil and grease. Fresh paint never looks as good as a dingy coat. |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 11:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
You also can get the AEM5 knurled from Thorobred. Email them and ask for a package price for the upper/suppressor. He has put the AEM5's on sale a couple of times recently. I paid $550 for mine from another clone vendor by paying by check instead of credit card/debit card. Deals can be found.
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Posted: 11/13/2019 9:07:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Not much to it, really. Get the colors you want to use and start with the lightest first. Once it dries, lay down the darker color in random streaks and splotches; don't plan it out, just roll with it. Be sure you hold the can farther away and close up, experiment with how bold or soft the colors can get. Lay down whatever stencils you wanna use: foliage, laundry bag, etc. From here, you're basically just alternating between colors to soften the edges and present a variety of shades. It's not rocket science but there should definitely be a randomness to it all. Beyond that, the paint really won't look right until it gets scuffed up and covered in oil and grease. Fresh paint never looks as good as a dingy coat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By smokedoff:
@RTUtah Off topic, can you give me a schooling on the paint jobs in the center pics. I'm trying to get up enough nerve to paint some rifles and I really like this darker, blended look more so than the tans, especially for my area. Beyond that, the paint really won't look right until it gets scuffed up and covered in oil and grease. Fresh paint never looks as good as a dingy coat. Shoot the fuck out of it, run it wet, and clean it with Brakekleen. Sweat will also dingy it up a lot too lol. It's so obvious to me that I switched lowers between the mod 0 and mod 1, given that I shoot the fuck out of the mod 1 and whatever lower it is on gets the most wear. 
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Posted: 11/13/2019 10:17:13 PM EDT
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I need to quit buying other shit and throw an AEM5 in jail already.
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Posted: 11/13/2019 10:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slim0428:
I need to quit buying other shit and throw an AEM5 in jail already. https://i.imgur.com/H4mvkgQ.jpg?1 |
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Posted: 11/13/2019 10:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wildman0723:
Anyone have an extra or just want to get rid of a Gen Juan Socom stock? Really need one to finish my build. |
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Posted: 11/13/2019 11:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87:
There is one on gunbroker right now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87:
Originally Posted By wildman0723:
Anyone have an extra or just want to get rid of a Gen Juan Socom stock? Really need one to finish my build. |
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Posted: 11/13/2019 11:48:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Got a link? The only thing I'm finding are new production items. |
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Posted: 11/14/2019 12:47:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87:
I’m talking about a lmt Sopmod gen 1 not the ace. I suck at linking but it’s listed by genofromreno. Search sr16 and follow that listing to other sellers items. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bimmertech87:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Got a link? The only thing I'm finding are new production items. |
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