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Originally Posted By Daggertt: What's wrong with the OEM spring? I tinker quite a bit with my ARs but I've never seen the need to mess with buffer springs. I would agree with AR-15s, for the most part. But with carbine length AR-10s it seems like at the least changing buffer weights and springs can help band aid an over-gas issue if you don't want to put a AGB on it. I think using an AGB is the way to go, it fixes the problem, not just a band aid to try to compensate for the issue. |
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Originally Posted By RHandel: I would agree with AR-15s, for the most part. But with carbine length AR-10s it seems like at the least changing buffer weights and springs can help band aid an over-gas issue if you don't want to put a AGB on it. I think using an AGB is the way to go, it fixes the problem, not just a band aid to try to compensate for the issue. |
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I’m late to the game, sounds like geissile rail and rifle speed gas block solves most of the problems? Is there a rail compatibility chart? ETA: this thread has less life than a cemetary. CMT hybrid rail dropped in perfect, zero modification required. Riflespeed gas block clearance is good. I'm an idiot and didnt order a straight gas tube so can't speak to shooting performance yet. Everyone using standard plunger size on their riflespeed? Attached File |
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Did I miss an announcement that the SFAR was being discontinued? It's no longer showing up on the site under the various model menus, and if you try to go straight to the SFAR page via a Google search you get this: Attached File And doing a model search on their site results in no matches found: Attached File |
| That's weird. Certainly seems like a weird time to nuke a product with no info. Hopefully they are just updating info. I don't think these companies realize how tuned in people are. You can have hundreds of thousands of people churning up a rumor mill before Doug from IT is done with his website update. |
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Read a post this morning on the SFAR Facebook group from someone that sent theirs back for warranty work in November or December. Initially Ruger was going to send him a new rifle, but then they contacted him earlier this month and advised that they're no longer producing the SFAR and parts aren't available either. If they were going to introduce a Gen2 version, seems like it would have made an appearance at SHOT last week. I saw where they discontinued the AR-556 rifles also. Apparently Ruger has decided to base all their AR stuff on their recent Anderson parts/manufacturing acquisition. Too bad, because I really like my SFAR and two AR-556's that I have. If I had wanted Anderson rifles, I would have bought them when they were still in business. Thanks, Ruger...  |
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I hope they release a next gen small frame. Been reading this thread and thinking about one for a while. There's nothing wrong with my 2A Xanthos build so I never did buy one. It is surprising that Ruger wiped it from their site. Google AI says it is not discontinued so it probably is. |
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Originally Posted By Bearcat24: That sucks balls. WTF are we supposed to do for parts if something breaks? I have the 308 with 20 inch barrel. Balls accurate. |
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Ruger is known for changing platforms configurations without much change to the platform. Gen 2 could literally be a new corrected handguard, some cosmetic milled cuts, and a paint job. How many times did they do that to the 22/45 and 10/22 line of guns. Maybe a piston coming our way? But please, Ruger, keep the main parts so we can stay with the platform. No need to change the barrel & BCG, which would also keep the receiver geometry the same. Just change the look from the outside and do a SBR option. |
| Don't put it past them. We will probably get a standard AR-10 with a nitride carrier, nitride button cut barrel. It will be a rebrand of Anderson's junk. Ruger is making everything as cheap as possible. Just like axing the Scout rifle and replacing it with the American series, which is hot garbage and disposable. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Some guy on FB's SFAR group is copy pasting an email allegedly from Ruger saying the SFAR is in fact dead. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Some guy on FB’s SFAR group is copy pasting an email allegedly from Ruger saying the SFAR is in fact dead. Wow. Bill couldn't beat Frank at his own game. |
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| For the money they were hard to beat, the 20" versions seemed to function fine. Mine has been good so far. Noone else is offering a CHF nitride barrel in 6.5CM that might actually last more than a few thousand rounds. The other AR-10s in that rice category are hot garbage. |
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Are these available to purchase? |
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Originally Posted By LVLAaron_A: Are these available to purchase? Originally Posted By LVLAaron_A: Are these available to purchase? Nope - We used all the extensions to build barrels (20ea) then realized all the Ruger SFAR bolts are not the same and not completely interchangeable with our extensions. We used 4ea factory SFAR bolts to reverse engineer our extensions, but that clearly was not a large enough lot size to cover all the bolt variations. At that point, we killed off our SFAR line before it really got started. Tony Rumore Tromix ETA: Ruger's SFAR Program Manager told me they would never offer SBR's. |
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Originally Posted By TonyRumore: Nope - We used all the extensions to build barrels (20ea) then realized all the Ruger SFAR bolts are not the same and not completely interchangeable with our extensions. We used 4ea factory SFAR bolts to reverse engineer our extensions, but that clearly was not a large enough lot size to cover all the bolt variations. At that point, we killed off our SFAR line before it really got started. Tony Rumore Tromix ETA: Ruger's SFAR Program Manager told me they would never offer SBR's. Originally Posted By TonyRumore: Originally Posted By LVLAaron_A: Are these available to purchase? Nope - We used all the extensions to build barrels (20ea) then realized all the Ruger SFAR bolts are not the same and not completely interchangeable with our extensions. We used 4ea factory SFAR bolts to reverse engineer our extensions, but that clearly was not a large enough lot size to cover all the bolt variations. At that point, we killed off our SFAR line before it really got started. Tony Rumore Tromix ETA: Ruger's SFAR Program Manager told me they would never offer SBR's. Which is weird, as they've devoted all their Charger pistol capacity to 10/22 SBRs. |
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Originally Posted By TonyRumore: Nope - We used all the extensions to build barrels (20ea) then realized all the Ruger SFAR bolts are not the same and not completely interchangeable with our extensions. We used 4ea factory SFAR bolts to reverse engineer our extensions, but that clearly was not a large enough lot size to cover all the bolt variations. At that point, we killed off our SFAR line before it really got started. Tony Rumore Tromix ETA: Ruger's SFAR Program Manager told me they would never offer SBR's. Originally Posted By TonyRumore: Originally Posted By LVLAaron_A: Are these available to purchase? Nope - We used all the extensions to build barrels (20ea) then realized all the Ruger SFAR bolts are not the same and not completely interchangeable with our extensions. We used 4ea factory SFAR bolts to reverse engineer our extensions, but that clearly was not a large enough lot size to cover all the bolt variations. At that point, we killed off our SFAR line before it really got started. Tony Rumore Tromix ETA: Ruger's SFAR Program Manager told me they would never offer SBR's. Tony , is this QC issue outside the norm? I've wondered if warranty work based on a botched launch is what doomed the SFAR . |
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Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Tony , is this QC issue outside the norm? I've wondered if warranty work based on a botched launch is what doomed the SFAR . I don't know what the norm is. We never had a print for the bolt, so maybe they run some big tolerance swings and make the extensions loose enough to cover the variation. Tony |
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Originally Posted By country_boy87: According to a rep, Ruger is moving the ar series of rifles to the newly purchased Anderson factory, Ruger WILL still warranty rifles. Nobody panic. But they do not have all the parts available. Like barrels. I took mine back, and will only shoot 7.62x51 going forward. .308 has excessive pressure problems with my barrel. |
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POF has a base model (LMR Base) of their small frame .308 that is competitively priced with the Ruger. So there is an option if Ruger doesn't get the product line going again or in a timely fashion. They are in the low $1000 range. I had my eye on a few inexpensive POF 12.5" small frame .308 and was waiting on a commission check. Of course, the second it hit that price went up by 40%. I'm assuming the distributor had a sale as several places had it at that price and they all dried up at the same time. I really don't need it, so I'm not feeling too bad. But I had a PTR-91 that was cut and pinned to an OAL of 16" (14.5" barrel) that I always liked. I foolishly traded it for the next toy and have been regretting it ever since. So I really should just grab something and scratch the itch. |
| So I need a new barrel or someone to re cut the chamber of the barrel I have so that my rifle will function. As far as ruger told me and what I can tell is there is little to no throat and the chamber is too tight/short/rough. Does anyone know anyone willing or able to solve this? |
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Originally Posted By Dark_zero_x: So I need a new barrel or someone to re cut the chamber of the barrel I have so that my rifle will function. As far as ruger told me and what I can tell is there is little to no throat and the chamber is too tight/short/rough. Does anyone know anyone willing or able to solve this? A gunsmith that chambers barrels should be able to manage it. Maybe scroll up and talk to the guy who was rolling his own SFAR barrels for a minute... |
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Tried the HBI regulator in my 16" SFAR . Would not eject/lock back on setting 4 or less. Setting 5 would leave the brass in the chamber, rim ripped off. Added an H3 buffer, it will run on setting 5. Did not try it suppressed. With the factory regulator, this SFAR runs on setting 2. Thought I could get better adjustabilty with the HBI. |
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Originally Posted By Hilljack: Tried the HBI regulator in my 16" SFAR . Would not eject/lock back on setting 4 or less. Setting 5 would leave the brass in the chamber, rim ripped off. Added an H3 buffer, it will run on setting 5. Did not try it suppressed. With the factory regulator, this SFAR runs on setting 2. Thought I could get better adjustabilty with the HBI. I too am not super thrilled with the HBI regulator. Yes it has 5 positions. But 3 of them are so far out of range and not useful, that it really isn't that much more useful than factory. I run it. Because in my 20"SFAR CM I find position 4 a litte more optimal sized than the closest on on the factory. But even at position 5, I have some mild loads that won't cycle. I will say, the 6.5 Creedmoor 20" version of this gun is pretty good. The 16" .308... I'm not so sure of. |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Czech coworker in town, who's never shot anything like this. Mine runs fine. 20" 6.5 Creedmoor is kind of a great $950 gun! https://i.postimg.cc/dtdHZfy5/20260301-163919.jpg That's awesome! My 20". 308 has been entirely trouble free. |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Also, yes - word is they are indeed relocating manufacturing. So this is a pause, not a cancellation. |
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Originally Posted By creeper45: I talked to customer service today , and sending my rifle in , I asked them about the SFAR , they are indeed discontinuing the SFAR . They are shifting their focus to the Harrier . Originally Posted By creeper45: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Also, yes - word is they are indeed relocating manufacturing. So this is a pause, not a cancellation. And Glock reps said they’d never make OD green frames again and that a single stack 9 wasn’t ever going to happen at the launch of the .380 Glock 42. Magpul said only no more colored mags other black and now they’re making OD and MCT and maybe some other color. Colt said they’d never make a piston rifle. I could go on and on. Point I’m making is gun and accessory manufacturers say all kinds of things that turn out not to be true. Not sure if it’s ignorant reps or salespeople, or they just like to keep things tight lipped. So just because you hear something from some random person at Ruger, don’t be so sure they’re giving you the real truth. |
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Originally Posted By Trucker69: And Glock reps said they'd never make OD green frames again and that a single stack 9 wasn't ever going to happen at the launch of the .380 Glock 42. Magpul said only no more colored mags other black and now they're making OD and MCT and maybe some other color. Colt said they'd never make a piston rifle. I could go on and on. Point I'm making is gun and accessory manufacturers say all kinds of things that turn out not to be true. Not sure if it's ignorant reps or salespeople, or they just like to keep things tight lipped. So just because you hear something from some random person at Ruger, don't be so sure they're giving you the real truth. Do you have info to the contrary |
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Originally Posted By creeper45: I talked to customer service today , and sending my rifle in , I asked them about the SFAR , they are indeed discontinuing the SFAR . They are shifting their focus to the Harrier . |
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