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NSWDG/Delta/AFSOC Recce Clone Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 8 of 137)
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Originally Posted By AZJBT: At one point I saw a pic of a M4A1 recce with a RC can. It's been a few years though. Currently searching for a M4A1 upper for mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/IMG_7946-598240.JPG NVM...the marsoc one was an nt4...way too photos in my head 
ETA - Damn, new page...Under construction pic 
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Hmmm... have to check into that. I just sold one of those rails, wish I would’ve kept it. Was a beautiful light brown. Good luck! Originally Posted By AZJBT: At one point I saw a pic of a M4A1 recce with a RC can. It's been a few years though. Currently searching for a M4A1 upper for mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/IMG_7946-598240.JPG |
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Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
This is my starting point, deciding on barrel now. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/blklexus74/7FE6A35A-AB73-4CDB-9DF9-25D92B1EF170.png Think I know the answer, but is a sure fire RC1 ever been seen on a recce? Since we’re on the topic of MARSOC, here is a MARSOC rig Minh sent me. Block 2 M4A1 with CQBSS. I know it’s an M4A1 but with that CQBSS and NT4 it’s relative. 
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Welcome to our little slice of heaven! I gotta agree with the other dudes that optic on a Lilja/249F would be sick. Since we’re on the topic of MARSOC, here is a MARSOC rig Minh sent me. Block 2 M4A1 with CQBSS. I know it’s an M4A1 but with that CQBSS and NT4 it’s relative. https://i.imgur.com/JN0gzQ9.jpg |
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How does it feel compared to a Harris? I'm switching over to one myself and I'm curious about weight.
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: How does it feel compared to a Harris? I'm switching over to one myself and I'm curious about weight. As for Mil across the board not sure about going all out just yet. The RAS is the key point in this setup IMO, just cool to discuss the variants. I will add discussion to the title for this purpose. |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Well I got my mounting screws in for the T1. Now I just need the x24 buuuut that might take a minute
https://i.imgur.com/zv4Nx6F.jpg 
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Haven’t shot with it yet but initial impression is it blows the Harris away. Feels way lighter, I’m sure most of that weight was the mount for the Harris, and less bulk. Perfect for a shorter precision rig. As for Mil across the board not sure about going all out just yet. The RAS is the key point in this setup IMO, just cool to discuss the variants. I will add discussion to the title for this purpose. 
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Branching off from the normal Recce Rifle Thread for just legit clones. These have the most varying setups of all the clones I believe. Trying to keep this to the AR platform. But HK is kosher since it is the newer variant. Here is a quick run down. Can add more items as they get brought up. RAILS: KAC FF RAS Medium/Long and KAC MRE OPTICS: Nightforce 2.5-10x24/32, Leupold MK4 Series, S&B Short Dot, and Doctor/T1 Piggybacked OPTIC MOUNTS: NF Rings, ARMS Rings, NF Unimount, LaRue LT104, LaRue Riser/Ring Combo’s BARRELS: 16/15.x Ops Cut Barrel, 16in Lilja, or 14.5 M4 BIPODS: Harris 6-9 and Atlas BT10 STOCK: SOPMOD, CAR, or CTR. MUZZLE DEVICES: Ops/AE, BE Myers, or KAC NT4 SUPPRESSORS: Ops 12th/AEM5 and KAC NT4 A few to get us started of in the wild and a few of the favorites I’ve collected. https://i.imgur.com/eQsW54w.jpg https://i.imgur.com/96efWyH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gDCE7Tj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Su3iHMR.png https://i.imgur.com/D8jzOnk.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RnSjqeV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ts9Kivo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QTA7OyW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OVEqo9Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/agsuTyF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZLDhhMo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lrgGcuB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5j54vFl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EIqypEh.jpg My rig. https://i.imgur.com/8fHRpwu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iKzEdpc.jpg 
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Nice. Just sold my Harris and ordered an Atlas.
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: And everyone switch to Atlas.....go! Haha, I'm doing the same thing, got my bipod setup in the ee and putting a atlas on order 
ETA: unrelated non - recce pic for atlas reference. 
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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I believe it’s the same guy in all those photos with the medium RAS. I pulled them from his Instagram. Can’t remember the name though.
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Something a little different but in the "realm" of a recce clone. https://i.imgur.com/PkLg8Rf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/n8mpMNz.jpg 
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Something a little different but in the "realm" of a recce clone. https://i.imgur.com/PkLg8Rf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/n8mpMNz.jpg Edit: Damn just noticed you swapped to a PRI. Put the RAS back on!!! |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Something a little different but in the "realm" of a recce clone. https://i.imgur.com/PkLg8Rf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/n8mpMNz.jpg  Does the can recess under the PRI tube or match up like the RAS?
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Something a little different but in the "realm" of a recce clone. https://i.imgur.com/PkLg8Rf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/n8mpMNz.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: That’s awesome! Oh and nice recce rail. Does the can recess under the PRI tube or match up like the RAS?I still love the FF RAS and will be holding on to mine just in case I decide to change or do something different. This change was prompted by my growing fondness for the Holland and PRI tube. The FF RAS/Mod 1 recce is a slick setup but it can look extremely long on the front with a collapsible stock (IMO). This is why I ran the A1 stock on my build to "balance" the length. The fatter tube of the PRI with the longer AEM5 works better with a collapsible stock vs. the FF RAS (IMO). The adjustable stock is a nice pickup over the A1 and I also like the recce rail for more flexible optic placement. The front of the x42 NF is a bee's dick from touching off on the recce rail with the 1" NF rings. I may bump up a size to try and give a little clearance for an objective lens cover. |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Something a little different but in the "realm" of a recce clone. https://i.imgur.com/PkLg8Rf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/n8mpMNz.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: Thanks for your contribution to the cause! Yes, the AEM5 recesses a hair under the rail with the 15.x" barrel. I think the PRI is .5" longer than the FF RAS. To be honest a 14.5/AEM5 combo would be pretty slick going under the tube. I still love the FF RAS and will be holding on to mine just in case I decide to change or do something different. This change was prompted by my growing fondness for the Holland and PRI tube. The FF RAS/Mod 1 recce is a slick setup but it can look extremely long on the front with a collapsible stock (IMO). This is why I ran the A1 stock on my build to "balance" the length. The fatter tube of the PRI with the longer AEM5 works better with a collapsible stock vs. the FF RAS (IMO). The adjustable stock is a nice pickup over the A1 and I also like the recce rail for more flexible optic placement. The front of the x42 NF is a bee's dick from touching off on the recce rail with the 1" NF rings. I may bump up a size to try and give a little clearance for an objective lens cover.  Can you post a picture of it without the can? I’m trying to judge how much barrel would be sticking out. I kind of like your idea about the 14.5". |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Damn it! Now you’re making me want to go PRI/recce combo instead of RAS. Can I have my recce back? Can you post a picture of it without the can? I’m trying to judge how much barrel would be sticking out. I kind of like your idea about the 14.5". 
As a tangent: something I've thought about is using this Spike's gas block/collar combo to get a nice barrel length/gas system combination where you can run the can as high as you want. 
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
One month down on the AEM5 wait! https://i.imgur.com/sGaLpzj.jpg Need some CQD mounts. Knew I shouldn’t have sold them when I ditched the MK18.
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Hell yea! My AEM5 is locked up at an indoor range so the one time I went and shot it was very uneventful. |
- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By eMc9001: It always is, I refused to shoot mine indoors. Just shot it for the first time this weekend, pure bliss. When the heat isnt so shitty should do a shoot man. |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: For sure. After Labor Day my work schedule opens up and I can shoot a lot more. Utah, Minh, and I have been talking about a shoot. My range is only 165yd. I’ve got a good buddy who has 400 about 10 min from my house, but he is a little slippery to nail down a day to go. It’s usually spur of the moment. |
- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By WarEagleAUB:
You guys were right, the Atlas is alot better than the Harris. Lighter and can actually get the pan and swivel tight enough were it wont move, when i don't want it too. Only bad thing is the price, but oh well. Now I need to paint it... https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1822/28397468177_fa162d04c0_c.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: I'm excited! How is the tightness on the friction lock for the cant? I had one about 4 years ago and it was suuuuper tight...kind of to the point of needing pliers to loosen it. |
- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: I'm excited! How is the tightness on the friction lock for the cant? I had one about 4 years ago and it was suuuuper tight...kind of to the point of needing pliers to loosen it. |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: I'm excited! How is the tightness on the friction lock for the cant? I had one about 4 years ago and it was suuuuper tight...kind of to the point of needing pliers to loosen it. Originally Posted By Dobs013: I'm excited! How is the tightness on the friction lock for the cant? I had one about 4 years ago and it was suuuuper tight...kind of to the point of needing pliers to loosen it. Originally Posted By eMc9001: The friction lock on my newest one is smooth, can easily adjust it. Originally Posted By Eyekahn: I just went and did a solid once over with it in the prone and sitting in a chair with rifle on a table, legs fully extended. Mine is very tight when full lock but easy to spin the knob 3/4 of a turn to full loose. On full loose it doesn’t flop around like a swivel Harris. The pan feature is very nice! Also the little bit of bend for loading the Bipod is a great idea, I was loading the Bipod on a glass table also keeps you from having to dig the Bipod deep in the ground to get good forward pressure. |
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On a side note from all the lavishing over bipods.....
I'm not one to typically be anal about clone stuff, but I don't really see the point in having Block II's in a Navy Recce Thread when we already have a block II thread..... Scopes on them just make them block II's with scopes on them. Or maybe the general recce thread would be fine. |
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
On a side note from all the lavishing over bipods..... I'm not one to typically be anal about clone stuff, but I don't really see the point in having Block II's in a Navy Recce Thread when we already have a block II thread..... Scopes on them just make them block II's with scopes on them. Or maybe the general recce thread would be fine. However, it is a discussion thread about Navy/Delta Recce rifles. We talked about MARSOC a little because it’s relevant. I’m not gonna ask the dudes to take down the photos of legit Mil Recce rigs but I won’t be adding them to the build specs. Here is a real conundrum... SEAL with Block II(could be a CQBR from where the accessories are mounted) that has NSW Recce tendencies.
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Well RIS II will not be added to the clone build specs on page 1. The FF RAS is the heart of this thread!!! However, it is a discussion thread about Navy/Delta Recce rifles. We talked about MARSOC a little because it’s relevant. I’m not gonna ask the dudes to take down the photos of legit Mil Recce rigs but I won’t be adding them to the build specs. Here is a real conundrum... SEAL with Block II(could be a CQBR from where the accessories are mounted) that has NSW Recce tendencies.
https://i.imgur.com/0k1IMOf.jpg Definitely a MK18. I have this pic saved on my phone. It almost inspired me to go for MK18 mini Recce build instead of the Recce. I’m still on the fence about it actually. |
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Yeah, to me I view it as a CQBR with a scope on it. Sure, they may be using it as a recce, but you could do that with any gun. Which is why the 727 or M4 aren't really part of the whole recce build sheet. They just got used like one in the beginning and maybe reconfigured a little bit with fixed stocks to help make it more so. To me it's going to have something more like a 16" barrel and 10" or longer rail. Of that era. There are plenty in here that show that build. Although there does seem to be some variation. That one guys is possibly an 18"....... And then there are the earlier ones that were obviously pre recce... ish. Anyways..... I guess one has to decide if it's the gun, or what they're doing with the gun. Because if it's the latter, all kinds of stuff could fit in. But to me, we have threads for all of those other builds. And just cuz someone slapped a scope on it, doesn't make it a Navy SEAL Recce type build. To me that is a very specific carbine. I would say if you're going to open it up to anything, you would start first with those builds that are pretty much the same. Because I wonder if CRANE supplied to Navy SEALs and some of the other services, the same type of build. Like that Air Force guy..... You know which one I'm talking about? ETA: Chapman...... |
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Yeah, to me I view it as a CQBR with a scope on it. Sure, they may be using it as a recce, but you could do that with any gun. Which is why the 727 or M4 aren't really part of the whole recce build sheet. They just got used like one in the beginning and maybe reconfigured a little bit with fixed stocks to help make it more so. To me it's going to have something more like a 16" barrel and 10" or longer rail. Of that era. There are plenty in here that show that build. Although there does seem to be some variation. That one guys is possibly an 18"....... And then there are the earlier ones that were obviously pre recce... ish. Anyways..... I guess one has to decide if it's the gun, or what they're doing with the gun. Because if it's the latter, all kinds of stuff could fit in. But to me, we have threads for all of those other builds. And just cuz someone slapped a scope on it, doesn't make it a Navy SEAL Recce type build. To me that is a very specific carbine. I would say if you're going to open it up to anything, you would start first with those builds that are pretty much the same. Because I wonder if CRANE supplied to Navy SEALs and some of the other services, the same type of build. Like that Air Force guy..... You know which one I'm talking about? ETA: Chapman...... Gotta abide by the build specs on page 1! |
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Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Word, well I'm not far from you all. Ill actually be working in your area the next two months just cant bring the rigs in the company vehicle unfornunately. If you work something out just let me know, I've got a guy here that can go to 550ish but hes basically the same way. Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn: For sure. After Labor Day my work schedule opens up and I can shoot a lot more. Utah, Minh, and I have been talking about a shoot. My range is only 165yd. I’ve got a good buddy who has 400 about 10 min from my house, but he is a little slippery to nail down a day to go. It’s usually spur of the moment.
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Originally Posted By TheManimal: The only clone I have at the moment to offer is a Johnny Rifle clone (close), but I don't live too far from Wilmington (foothills) and would be willing to drive...that is if non-clones are allowed to participate  . That isn't that far though, I'm workin in that direction this week.
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
NSWDG/Delta/AFSOC Recce Clone Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 8 of 137)
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