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Posted: 12/29/2004 2:07:20 PM EDT

Saw this in the new catalog today.  I've been wanting to build an SP1 for quite a while now.  It says it has the "small" front pivot hole.  The rifle is 1-12 twist and they said its BLACK.  Not the preban gray.

Has anyone purchased one of these?

Here is a link to thier site.....

www.cdnninvestments.com/arsp1upnewco.html
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 2:10:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2004 2:11:21 PM EDT by Sigurd]
I have one.

It's definitely gray.

That said, I like it. It's obviously brand new, came coated in cosmoline.

ETA: They are actually M16A1 uppers, not SP1, so they have the standard size front push pin hole.
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 2:44:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sigurd:
I have one.

It's definitely gray.

That said, I like it. It's obviously brand new, came coated in cosmoline.

ETA: They are actually M16A1 uppers, not SP1, so they have the standard size front push pin hole.




So your saying that you have one from cdnn?  And it is the preban gray?

Yeah, i figured they came off the A1's since the military spec pivot.

Since it had the small pivot i was gonna get a new receiver for it.  But if its gray it obviously wont match well.

thanks.......
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 3:24:00 PM EDT
Yes, mine came from CDNN. It's the old "Colt light gray" color.

They might have some that are black...but mine is definitely gray.

It's on a Stag lower right now and the lower is much darker than the upper.
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 3:25:50 PM EDT
Why do you guys pay so much for it from CDNN when there are other sources selling the same thing for alot less?
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 3:27:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2004 3:28:10 PM EDT by Gregory_K]
+1 on grey color Sits on a fulton lower .  

For 399 I thought it was a good deal almost a complete upper and a complete stock assy.

It light accurate and covered in cosmo.

Smokes when I shoot it.

I also noticed that they have used a2 uppers Colt for sale 399. Dont know all the specs on it I whish they would give more info.

eta Whats a Colt small hole A1 upper going for?
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 7:02:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2004 7:02:58 PM EDT by Timanator]
The CDNN's isnt complete. Plus there is other dealers selling the identicle surplus for less.


store.yahoo.com/cdnn/arsp1upnewco.html
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 7:12:46 PM EDT
The same upper (-forward assist) and stock is selling for $259 in the EE.

FREE
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 7:18:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FREEFALLE6:
The same upper (-forward assist) and stock is selling for $259 in the EE.

FREE




My point, and also a few other dealers online...
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 7:57:22 PM EDT
I aint got no problem buying it from somewhere else.  Just havent seen very many of them.  I just wish they where BLACK.  I mean black - black.

Know whatta mean?
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 8:37:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2004 8:39:03 PM EDT by Sukebe]
I bought one from CDNN two years ago. A new Colt M16A1 upper ( yes, I know what an M16A1 upper is). It came with everything but the bolt, bolt carrier and charging handle. The receiver was black. I mean black black. Know what I mean? A nice match for My RRA lower. I sold the upper but have some Pics. IM me if you want to see them.
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 9:53:08 PM EDT
If you know other places that are selling the same thing for less, post a link and help people out.  General comments that others have them cheaper doesn't help anyone.
Link Posted: 12/29/2004 11:12:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:
If you know other places that are selling the same thing for less, post a link and help people out.  General comments that others have them cheaper doesn't help anyone.



Ain't that the truth
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 2:24:44 AM EDT
I saw that today, its an sp1 upper, used.

Find a  Small hole A1 upper Colt for less I looked never found any cheaper.

Closet I foun 375. but no stock assy. Add shipping now how much cheaper is it. Cdnn shipping 9 bucks.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 7:02:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 302HO:
I aint got no problem buying it from somewhere else.  Just havent seen very many of them.  I just wish they where BLACK.  I mean black - black.

Know whatta mean?



Nope. Cuz my early 80's EA15 lower is light gray and I need a light gray upper
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 8:48:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Timanator:

Originally Posted By FREEFALLE6:
The same upper (-forward assist) and stock is selling for $259 in the EE.

FREE




My point, and also a few other dealers online...



The ones on the EE for $259 are not the same thing.  I got one and it does not have a chromed chamber, or bore.  The uppers CDNN are selling are much later and have chromed chamber and bore.

I am getting ready to order one of the A2 uppers today, sounds to me like they are M16A2 uppers.  Also noticed that they have bolt groups, and charging handles back in stock, what you want to bet they are M16A2 parts, rather then the A1 stuff they sold out of earlier?
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 8:50:18 AM EDT
I saw them posted in Sarco for the past few month now. I believe they are 299 from them.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 8:55:10 AM EDT
I wonder if those a2 uppers have a2 barrel, chrome barrel and whats the twist. I sent off an email. asking. anyone hear knows?
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 8:59:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
I wonder if those a2 uppers have a2 barrel, chrome barrel and whats the twist. I sent off an email. asking. anyone hear knows?



I just ordered one with a bolt group, should be here Monday, will advise...........
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 11:26:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2004 11:28:43 AM EDT by onegunshort]
There are unfired surplus usaf slicksides on gunbroker for 199, if anyone is looking for a relic.  chrome chambers, no forward assist, no bolt.  From norcross, ga.  but they are advertised as sp1 small pin uppers.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 1:27:50 PM EDT
Well how about some suggetions about what if any new lower will come close to matching on the color. No matter where one was purchased?  Russ
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 2:42:44 PM EDT
With out some paint, you will not find a new lower to match.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 3:04:50 PM EDT
I got an email from cdnn stating that the upper was black.  They also said that the twist on the A1 barrel was 1-12.  So yep, definetly an A1 barrel.  I bet its grey though.  The preban gray looks black until you put it beside something thats actually black.

Or atleast i dont think the SP1's have a low twist like that.
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 3:13:34 PM EDT
I did my DPMS lower with Norrells grey/black and it matches real close...  Just need the Bolt Carrier which is on a slow train comming in from RB precission (back ordered). http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/817075/DSC00324.jpg
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 4:35:03 PM EDT
I have some dark park, grey from brownells, i think i will get another stripped lower from a company that was actually in business when this rifle was new. Colt, eagle or olymic and paint it to match.   Russ
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 4:48:25 PM EDT
K-JoeZ , Where did you get that A1 pistol grip from?? Russ
Link Posted: 12/30/2004 6:19:32 PM EDT
Got the pistol grip from the EE not sure if he still has them.www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=119&t=205121
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 10:48:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 8:10:04 PM EDT by Ekie]

Originally Posted By Ekie:

Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
I wonder if those a2 uppers have a2 barrel, chrome barrel and whats the twist. I sent off an email. asking. anyone hear knows?



I just ordered one with a bolt group, should be here Monday, will advise...........



Got the "AR-15A2" upper today from CDNN.  It is a mid-production Colt's M16A2 upper. Has the newer style forward assist, not the early big round honker used for the first few years. The forge code on the upper is CM, rather then the later CMB. Barrel is marked CMP 5.56 NATO 1/7. Receiver is medium gray.  I would not rate it new, I would call it like new. There is a scratch on the left side of the receiver, and a scuff on the muzzle, and left front sight ear.

Also bought a bolt group, and charging handle. The bolt group is a take off from a M16A1, and is used. Charging handle is in excellent condition.

Now for the kicker, it won't fit my lowers.  Front pin will not line up on the upper receiver.  Tried it with a MT6400C lower, a MT6601 receiver, and a SP6731 lower.  Going to send the carrier and upper back tomorrow.  Done business with CDNN for about 15 years, first return.  Also the first Colt upper lower combo I had that did not go together.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:30:30 PM EDT
so these ar15-a2 uppers are actually M16A2 uppers.
so they have small holes in the upper
A2 proflie barrel
and a grey upper, was hopping those would be balck.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:56:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 302HO:
I aint got no problem buying it from somewhere else.  Just havent seen very many of them.  I just wish they where BLACK.  I mean black - black.

Know whatta mean?



Black on a A1/SP1 upper just doesn't look right...
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 2:07:15 PM EDT
Isn't this the same upper that Buffer Technologies sells for $325 with the bolt carrier group?
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 3:02:26 PM EDT
Buffer technologies is sold out of all 3
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:12:29 AM EDT
I sure like the Old A1 look.  As a matter of fact, that's one of the favorites to keep on my rifle.  I recently picked up a camera to post pics.  Let give it a try...
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 6:40:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fuatos:
I sure like the Old A1 look.  As a matter of fact, that's one of the favorites to keep on my rifle.  I recently picked up a camera to post pics.  Let give it a try...images.snapfish.com/34284%3A7923232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E233%3C%3D478%3D­%3B%3A6%3DXROQDF%3E2323745%3A9%3B784ot1lsi



Hey, that is sharp, is that a A1 lower?
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 6:42:13 AM EDT
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