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Cyclic240B

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Posted: 11/5/2007 5:25:06 PM EST

[#1]

Originally Posted By FA_45ACP:
those pm comics are pretty funny

And they work too

Don't know if you know it, but for all of you that don't, those comics come from the Army's "preventive maintenance monthly", which you can get at the link below. Added bonus is you can view the back issues as well, so enjoy.

https://www.logsa.army.mil/psmag/psonline.cfm

TANT QUE JE PUIS

JeepDriver

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Posted: 11/5/2007 6:45:06 PM EST

[#2]

Originally Posted By FA_45ACP:
Does anyone here regret their decision to go with a 20" instead of a carbine?

It may just be BRD, but I find myself having buyers remorse with my 20" rifle when I see how many AR owners own carbines

Something for everyone! You can't stop at just one!

FA_45ACP Joined Apr 2007 Posts 118 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 11/6/2007 5:21:35 PM EST [#3] I wish I could have half a dozen variants; unfortunately I don't have that luxury

Jolly_Roger_Arms 33rd Zombie Hunting Squad Joined Sep 2005 Posts 1790 EE 100% (9) TX, USA	Posted: 11/10/2007 3:38:12 PM EST [#4] A little bump
	Formerly: RRA0211 Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, and Sam Colt made them equal, But Jack Daniels Made them invincible.

dvill Joined Oct 2006 Posts 24 EE 100% (1) CA, USA	Posted: 11/11/2007 9:46:35 PM EST [#5] Here's my contribution... http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/dvill223/M16A4gery.jpg

ThePrisoner72

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Posted: 11/12/2007 7:55:19 AM EST

[#6]

Originally Posted By Jolly_Roger_Arms:
A little bump

i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/ar15junky/DSC07387.jpg

What type of BUIS is that? Thanks!

Darkstar117

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Posted: 11/12/2007 9:47:00 AM EST

[#7]

Originally Posted By ThePrisoner72:

Originally Posted By Jolly_Roger_Arms:
A little bump

i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/ar15junky/DSC07387.jpg

What type of BUIS is that? Thanks!

It's a Matech BUIS.

SSgt USAF 2W171 Aircraft Armament Systems

They shot down a predator, that's one less slot for me...

Hands down you've got the coolest wife! - Pattymcn

كافر

Jolly_Roger_Arms

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Posted: 11/12/2007 9:49:58 AM EST

[Last Edit: Jolly_Roger_Arms] [#8]

Originally Posted By ThePrisoner72:

Originally Posted By Jolly_Roger_Arms:
A little bump

i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/ar15junky/DSC07387.jpg

What type of BUIS is that? Thanks!

That is a Matech

ETA: Ebay Link <-- not mine*

Formerly: RRA0211
Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, and Sam Colt made them equal, But Jack Daniels Made them invincible.

ThePrisoner72 Joined Aug 2004 Posts 464 EE 100% (23) NY, USA	Posted: 11/12/2007 10:18:02 AM EST [#9] Thank you.

Dorsai Joined Mar 2001 Posts 1609 EE 100% (3) NV, USA	Posted: 11/12/2007 4:38:44 PM EST [#10]

FA_45ACP Joined Apr 2007 Posts 132 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 11/12/2007 5:03:39 PM EST [#11] Whats that neato rail system everybody seems to use for these clones? I know the military uses them too, but I can't tell the difference between knights, midway, et al

seamasterpro

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Posted: 11/12/2007 5:12:36 PM EST

[#12]

Originally Posted By FA_45ACP:
Whats that neato rail system everybody seems to use for these clones? I know the military uses them too, but I can't tell the difference between knights, midway, et al

Knight's Armament M5 RAS
rail systems

Darkstar117

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Posted: 11/12/2007 5:14:22 PM EST

[#13]

Originally Posted By FA_45ACP:
Whats that neato rail system everybody seems to use for these clones? I know the military uses them too, but I can't tell the difference between knights, midway, et al

The "most correct" for a A4 clone is the KAC M5 RIS system, as the Army and the Marines use them.

SSgt USAF 2W171 Aircraft Armament Systems

They shot down a predator, that's one less slot for me...

Hands down you've got the coolest wife! - Pattymcn

كافر

Milla Joined Dec 2005 Posts 17 EE 100% (4) VA, USA	Posted: 11/12/2007 5:34:45 PM EST [Last Edit: Milla] [#14] Yup the KAC M5 is what we have in the Marines. We also just got the grip pod, PEQ 15's and ACOGs (reserve units are slow at getting new gear until you are about to deploy ) I really love the ACOG, its such an amazing sight, got to use it for the first time this past week, fired about 1000 rounds with it

FA_45ACP Joined Apr 2007 Posts 133 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 11/12/2007 7:05:52 PM EST [Last Edit: FA_45ACP] [#15] Oh yeah, my tax return will never know what hit it Thanks for the info guys.

Scooter1942 Joined Sep 2002 Posts 646 EE 100% (117) TX, USA	Posted: 11/13/2007 1:52:38 PM EST [Last Edit: Scooter1942] [#16] What sling does DVILL have on that rifle and where can I find one?

Belmont31R Member Joined May 2006 Posts 2365 EE 100% (71) WA, USA	Posted: 11/13/2007 4:17:08 PM EST [#17]
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dvill Joined Oct 2006 Posts 25 EE 100% (1) CA, USA	Posted: 11/14/2007 6:09:25 PM EST [#18] Here you go..www.aitesusa.com/aitessector13.html It's the same sling issued to the U.S. military

Stuka_Pirate

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Posted: 11/21/2007 3:43:00 PM EST

[#19]

Originally Posted By Belmont31R:
i117.photobucket.com/albums/o75/Belmont31R/DSC01012.jpg

i117.photobucket.com/albums/o75/Belmont31R/DSC00899.jpg

i117.photobucket.com/albums/o75/Belmont31R/101_0570.jpg

My kind of operator!!!

Gucci to the core!

speedballalice Joined Aug 2005 Posts 42 EE 86% (7) MO, USA	Posted: 11/22/2007 11:12:53 AM EST [#20] Update: I received my KAC rail yesterday and I am very happy with it. I blew most of my Chrismas budget on it but I feel it was worth it. Rock solid. Keep the thread alive!!!!!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/gunslinger1971/Gun%20Pics/DSCF4271.jpg

KZ1

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Posted: 11/22/2007 7:10:54 PM EST

[#21]

height=8

Originally Posted By Jolly_Roger_Arms:
height=8

Originally Posted By KZ1:
Curiously, has anybody built a clone with a collapsible stock being the only exception on the blueprint?

Like so?

i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/ar15junky/DSC07709.jpg

AWESOME!

osinious Joined May 2006 Posts 83 EE 100% (1) PA, USA	Posted: 11/23/2007 3:57:59 PM EST [#22] where do you get FDE KAC panels?

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Posted: 11/25/2007 5:34:06 PM EST

[#23]

Keep the thread alive!!!!!!!

arbob

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Posted: 11/25/2007 6:26:08 PM EST

[#24]

Originally Posted By osinious:
where do you get FDE KAC panels?

Try MSTN in the industry forum.

Lumpy196

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Posted: 11/26/2007 12:20:30 AM EST

[#25]

Originally Posted By arbob:

Originally Posted By osinious:
where do you get FDE KAC panels?

Try MSTN in the industry forum.

Operation Parts has them as well.

Originally Posted By Hoppy:
Dots and scopes make shooting the AR like taking candy from a baby. There's no satisfaction in hitting the target when you can do it almost 100% of the time

FA_45ACP Joined Apr 2007 Posts 139 EE 100% (1) USA	Posted: 11/28/2007 4:24:39 PM EST [#26] How much weight does the handguard rail system add? Hypothetically, if the 20" are for medium to long range shooting rather than CQB, why would there be any reason to mount an entire rail system besides just to add a vertical handgrip?

renesis

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Posted: 11/28/2007 4:34:05 PM EST

[Last Edit: renesis] [#27]

IR-Illuminator/laser or to mount a night vision device that may take up alot of rail space. And if I remember correctly the RAS weighs 16-18 oz stripped with no panels or grips on them.

ETA:

Originally Posted By Ridge:
[originally titled: Weight comparison railed FF forends?] - Troy

End Edit 5-12-06

M4 RAS-8.8 (handguard)+2.5(standard nut that remains)2.5 = 11.3 oz
M5 RAS rifle length-14.1+2.5= 16.6 oz
Ras II-11.3+2.5=13.8 oz
FF RAS carbine-7.2 (handguard) + 4.2(nut)=11.4 oz with out panels
FF RAS midlength-10.3+ 4.2 = 14.5 oz
FF RAS long-12 + 4.2 = 16.2 oz
URX carbine -8.6 (handguard) + 0.3 (nut) = 8.9 oz
URX mid -12.7 + 0.3=13 oz
URX long-14.4 + 0.3=14.7 oz
Daniel Defense-8.5 oz short with nut no panels
BMAS
C-MORE-15.8 oz
FIRSH-10.5 ? including nut ?
GG&G forend~16 oz
ARMS SIR - 18.8 oz(#45c)
DPMS 4-rail-14oz
etc.

If can provide data or point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.

I saw a spreadsheat posted awhile back that had a comparison, but I don't think wieght was included (last time I saw it). Maybe it could be added.

Edited to update provided wieghts for easy reference

For more and all the details. Check out TheRicker's chart below

<font size=3>“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.”</font id=s3> General George S. Patton

GulDuCal Joined Apr 2001 Posts 691 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 12/6/2007 12:53:59 AM EST [#28]

Jolly_Roger_Arms

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Posted: 12/8/2007 12:33:53 PM EST

[#29]

Originally Posted By GulDuCal:
bin.homestead.com/files/a4gery_01.jpg

That picture never gets old

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Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, and Sam Colt made them equal, But Jack Daniels Made them invincible.

Jolly_Roger_Arms 33rd Zombie Hunting Squad Joined Sep 2005 Posts 1881 EE 100% (9) TX, USA	Posted: 12/16/2007 2:38:40 PM EST [#30]
	Formerly: RRA0211 Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, and Sam Colt made them equal, But Jack Daniels Made them invincible.

Darkstar117 Ipsa scientia potestas est Joined Oct 2004 Posts 2988 EE 0% (0) NV, USA	Posted: 12/16/2007 6:31:40 PM EST [#31] I have all the parts for a Foliage Green A4 clone on the way now. You guys sure do know how to get somebody to spend some money...
	SSgt USAF 2W171 Aircraft Armament Systems They shot down a predator, that's one less slot for me... Hands down you've got the coolest wife! - Pattymcn كافر

Darkstar117 Ipsa scientia potestas est Joined Oct 2004 Posts 3019 EE 0% (0) NV, USA	Posted: 12/19/2007 4:44:00 PM EST [#32] ^
	SSgt USAF 2W171 Aircraft Armament Systems They shot down a predator, that's one less slot for me... Hands down you've got the coolest wife! - Pattymcn كافر

dayphotog infidel Jarhead zombie killer Joined Jan 2005 Posts 1691 EE 100% (172) WI, USA	Posted: 12/30/2007 2:13:24 PM EST [#33] LOVE This thread!!! OK so I have my correct USMC model Acog and my M5 ras But having a hard time finding a Correct upper A4's have gov-profile barrel right? what is a good upper or rifle kit minus receiver to get to finish my build??? I just keep seeing hbar 20" upper kits thanks much and keep the photos coming!!
	have gun will travel Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV. We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

alphagunner Joined Feb 2007 Posts 164 EE 99% (132) OK, USA	Posted: 12/30/2007 2:27:07 PM EST [#34] I got mine from CMMG and have been very happy with it I really like the 1/7 twist I think it was 525 bucks and it was complete

dmbleess Joined Nov 2007 Posts 1 EE 0% (0) NE, USA	Posted: 12/30/2007 4:34:07 PM EST [Last Edit: dmbleess] [#35] delete

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Posted: 12/30/2007 5:14:21 PM EST

[#36]

Originally Posted By dmbleess:
Stag lefty 16" AR-15 with ambi setup.

This is an M16A4 picture thread.

Originally Posted By Zak-Smith:
I've no patience for internet dirt shooters.

Yellokw

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Posted: 12/30/2007 6:16:30 PM EST

[#37]

Great thread. I got my AR as an early Christmas present a few weeks ago. I got out of the Army in early '99, and at that time we all had A2's. Didn't keep up with the evolution of AR's since then. It wasn't until a few days ago that I figured out that my rifle is an A4 clone. Haven't got an pics yet, but it is built on a DPMS lower reciever, A-2 butt stock, KAC M5 RAS, FN 1/7 5.56 barrel, FN bolt, FA bolt carrier. Shoots very well. Gaining more respect for my son's parts scrounging abilities every day.

Darkstar117 Ipsa scientia potestas est Joined Oct 2004 Posts 3145 EE 0% (0) NV, USA	Posted: 12/30/2007 10:20:13 PM EST [#38] Now all I need is a Foliage Green A2 stock! Anybody know where I can get one?
	SSgt USAF 2W171 Aircraft Armament Systems They shot down a predator, that's one less slot for me... Hands down you've got the coolest wife! - Pattymcn كافر

ThePrisoner72 Joined Aug 2004 Posts 468 EE 100% (23) NY, USA	Posted: 1/3/2008 6:15:22 PM EST [#39] I love this thread!

DM1975 Member Joined May 2004 Posts 6519 EE 100% (74) KS, USA	Posted: 1/3/2008 6:22:22 PM EST [#40] That is noce but is that rust on the sling swivil rivit?
	Your Moms a Tool!!!

ThePrisoner72 Joined Aug 2004 Posts 469 EE 100% (23) NY, USA	Posted: 1/3/2008 6:26:19 PM EST [#41] No. I sent the barrel out to ADCO to turn it into Gov't profile and when I received it back I noticed this. I thought it was from when they re-parkerized the barrel.

DM1975 Member Joined May 2004 Posts 6520 EE 100% (74) KS, USA	Posted: 1/3/2008 6:37:24 PM EST [#42] Ahh, nice rife. I love the A4's
	Your Moms a Tool!!!

Cyclic240B Sykes’ Regulars Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2817 EE 100% (7) WA, USA	Posted: 1/4/2008 2:37:34 AM EST [#43] Updated mine with goodies from Santa, those being the Eagle sling, b'stock mag pouch and the TA-31RCOA4....
	TANT QUE JE PUIS

FiveseveNDoubletaP Joined Feb 2007 Posts 141 EE 94% (18) VA, USA	Posted: 1/4/2008 12:05:40 PM EST [Last Edit: FiveseveNDoubletaP] [#44] BTT Thinking about an A4 as my next EBR. Why isn't this a Sticky?

dayphotog

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Posted: 1/4/2008 12:52:37 PM EST

[#45]

Originally Posted By Cyclic240B:
Updated mine with goodies from Santa, those being the Eagle sling, b'stock mag pouch and the TA-31RCOA4....

theconnzzzz.net/2008-01-03_004.JPG

theconnzzzz.net/2008-01-03_025.JPG

theconnzzzz.net/2008-01-03_018.JPG

that is going to be exactly like mine!!! Looks so good

I just got the last part ordered (upper) oh I can't wait

I have a different sling though

I will post pics once I put it together

keep more pics coming!!!

have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Cyclic240B

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Posted: 1/4/2008 3:28:58 PM EST

[#46]

Originally Posted By FiveseveNDoubletaP:
BTT
Thinking about an A4 as my next EBR.

Why isn't this a Sticky?

I love the A4 configuration so I say you cannot go wrong doing your own A4 build.

And I agree on the stickies. I think every major variation should have their own stickies so you don't have to wade through a ton of posts and pics' to find something specific.

Originally Posted By dayphotog:

that is going to be exactly like mine!!! Looks so good

I just got the last part ordered (upper) oh I can't wait

I have a different sling though

I will post pics once I put it together

keep more pics coming!!!

Get pics' when you can, as will I. Though it has been really stormy here lately, so taking decent images is not working out too well.

TANT QUE JE PUIS

Taphandle Joined Sep 2007 Posts 18 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 1/4/2008 4:23:15 PM EST [Last Edit: Taphandle] [#47] Cyclic240B Was just wondering what type railed hand guards you have on you stag rifle, looking for something similar for my lefty. Looks great, how’s it holding up?? Thanks, Jeff

Cyclic240B Sykes’ Regulars Joined Feb 2005 Posts 2825 EE 100% (7) WA, USA	Posted: 1/4/2008 7:00:26 PM EST [#48] That is a Knights Armament M5 RAS, you can find them at Operations Parts, MSTN, and a few others. As for holding up, so far so good. It has not been together that long, so I only got a couple hundred rounds through it and have had no hiccups so far.
	TANT QUE JE PUIS

Sumoj275 Joined Jan 2003 Posts 713 EE 100% (38) OK, USA	Posted: 1/4/2008 7:39:39 PM EST [#49] Great looking pics of the A4's!

0612Devil

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Posted: 1/4/2008 9:00:58 PM EST

[Last Edit: 0612Devil] [#50]

Originally Posted By Cyclic240B:
Updated mine with goodies from Santa, those being the Eagle sling, b'stock mag pouch and the TA-31RCOA4....

theconnzzzz.net/2008-01-03_004.JPG

theconnzzzz.net/2008-01-03_025.JPG

theconnzzzz.net/2008-01-03_018.JPG

Did your ACOG's mounting knobs come on that side from the factory? Or is that personal preference?

To the unnamed member who purchased this Team Membership for me, thank you very much...

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