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Posted: 12/19/2008 5:36:07 PM EST
Does anybody have pics of them?
Link Posted: 12/19/2008 6:56:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/19/2008 7:46:01 PM EST



Exactly.

That's basically how many IDF rifles are set up.

Take an M16A1, and throw the newer handguards on it.

Exactly like a 653, except the 653 uses the 16" barrel and handguard along with the carbine stock.




Link Posted: 12/19/2008 7:54:38 PM EST
In 1988, the old stocks of triangular handguards ran out and any A1 needing new stocks got the black, round A2s. Along with buttstocks. They were specifically interchangable.

Since the A1s had specific left and rights and the lefts suffered more breakage due to slinging, any rifle with a broken RIGHT handguard got a used replacement.
Link Posted: 12/19/2008 8:19:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ermac:
Does anybody have pics of them?



It makes for a very nice looking lightweight rifle IMHO.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 5:59:54 AM EST
Does Israel make their own M16's or is the US still supplying M16s to them?
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 6:04:27 AM EST








Link Posted: 12/20/2008 6:11:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2008 6:12:26 AM EST by AZMM]
Didn't Lone Star Ordnance first start making the round A2 rifle handguards to replace the triangular ones on A1s and SP1s? If I recall correctly they gave Colt the idea along with everyone else. I remembering ordering a pair for my first A1 build back in the mid-80s. They also had the best pistol grip around at the time and I wouldn't mind obtaining more of those even now.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 6:49:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 6:50:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 8:29:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By QUIB:
Originally Posted By AZMM:
Didn't Lone Star Ordnance first start making the round A2 rifle handguards to replace the triangular ones on A1s and SP1s? If I recall correctly they gave Colt the idea along with everyone else. I remembering ordering a pair for my first A1 build back in the mid-80s. They also had the best pistol grip around at the time and I wouldn't mind obtaining more of those even now.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Metroliner/scan0067.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Metroliner/scan0066.jpg


Ah yes, Lone Star and L.L. Baston Co. I spent many a paycheck between both of those suppliers. Baston was my main supplier for all things Colt.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 8:36:23 AM EST
Take a look at the Colt Sporter II models. They had A1 style uppers but A2 profile barrels and furniture.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 12:47:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 1:03:32 PM EST
You can also take a google trip and look for the Canadian C7. It has the heavy barrel and a shell deflector though. Still has A1 type sights though.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 1:27:23 PM EST


What a Franken rifle. A2 lower, hybrid A1 upper (brass deflector) A1 butt with A2 handguards and pistol grip.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 1:38:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By Keith_J:


What a Franken rifle. A2 lower, hybrid A1 upper (brass deflector) A1 butt with A2 handguards and pistol grip.


Yep it is, but it is an A2 stock on her.

Link Posted: 12/20/2008 2:02:40 PM EST
Many of our AF M16's had A2 furniture Butt/handguards as replacements since you couldn't get the triangle hanguards or A1 buttstocks...

+2 Makes a very good combination, M16/M16A1 with the better ergonomics of A2 furniture without the extra A2 weight .
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 5:18:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By AZMM:
Didn't Lone Star Ordnance first start making the round A2 rifle handguards to replace the triangular ones on A1s and SP1s? If I recall correctly they gave Colt the idea along with everyone else. I remembering ordering a pair for my first A1 build back in the mid-80s. They also had the best pistol grip around at the time and I wouldn't mind obtaining more of those even now.



IM me your address.
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 5:36:33 PM EST
Wrap your heads around this one:



ROTC cadets carrying M16A1s with A2 handguards, wearing ACUs, wearing vintage LCEs and ALICE packs. IIRC, this photo is from this past summer.

~Augee
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 5:57:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2008 6:26:30 PM EST by Ermac]
That's certainly interesting I thought all M16A1s were completely phased out. Now it would be cool to see the A1's with the A4's rails. The M16A1 can be fitted with M203s correct?
Link Posted: 12/20/2008 6:32:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/21/2008 6:51:21 PM EST
203 was designed for the M16A1, and is the reason for the "government profile" barrel of the A2, as well as the notch on the M4 barrel. All to match the A1 profile barrel that the original mounts were designed for.

~Augee
Link Posted: 12/22/2008 10:58:48 AM EST
Are there any vendors that make M16A1 clones? If not how would I go about building one?
Link Posted: 12/22/2008 11:19:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/22/2008 9:52:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ermac:
The M16A1 can be fitted with M203s correct?

Yep


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCu4cc__BX8
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:01:57 AM EST
The Lone star round handies for the A1 or A2 rifle are non interchangable halves. They have a unique look to them, as they are skinnier than
the real Colt pattern roundies, and have about half the number of vertical ribs, front to back. I'd like to get another set sometime, if I can ever
find 'em.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:10:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 7:11:38 AM EST by MRW]
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:46:24 AM EST
I was waiting for one of you guys to mention that in 84' to 86' Colt was making "transitional" models from A-1 to A-2, and there was often a mix of parts on the new "A-2's"...Colt often used up old parts before switching to new styles.
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