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Posted: 11/30/2007 10:29:53 PM EDT
I'm looking for a quality 12.5" or 12" barrel. What are my options? I'd like SS. I like the looks and idea of those black Ion barrels Denny has too.

It would need dimples for a gas block and probably flats for set screws although I plan on using an Vltor flip up sight/gas block combo. If not, I will install my longer rail over it and use my front KAC flip up.

Carbine gas system is probably my only option and that's just fine. This barrel will probably host an OPS can in the early early spring and that's why I'm looking at 12" or so minimum. I think my 11.5" will work but I would like a little bit more barrel.

What are Noveske's offerings? I've looked but I can't keep it all straight.

I'm looking for feedback from those of you who might have invested a little more time than I have in looking around for such a thing.

Thanks
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 5:43:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 6:15:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 8:46:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 10:22:36 AM EDT
Well I didn't ask in the first place but to keep from getting recommendations and then running out to look at them and then coming back with questions, please state the stats of your choices and reasons.

Stats like sight options, profile, etc. Barrel twist is a given at 1:7 i'd think.

Pictures of profiles will help because I don't have that all straight in my head.

Thanks so far!

Oh, and for sure prices would be great!

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 10:43:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 10:49:13 AM EDT by Stickman]
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:15:32 AM EDT
The first two items are good Stick. But if you'd read I put that I will be using an VLTOR flip up FSB/GB (actually I've got an email in to you too...)

And I have a carrier with an MP tested bolt...

I do like the polygonal rifling.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 11:26:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mfingar:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/Texasfg.jpg

The Stealth 12.0 is plug & play.


Plug and play as in a complete upper?
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:23:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 12:27:38 PM EDT by Stickman]
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:37:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mfingar:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/Texasfg.jpg

Flare gun?!?!?
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:56:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 1:09:25 PM EDT by mfingar]
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 12:58:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mfingar:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/Texasfg.jpg

The Stealth 12.0 is plug & play.


Off Topic a bit, where to buy and how much for the MK 79 MOD 2 flare pen and mount?
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:02:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 1:04:07 PM EDT by mfingar]
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 6:21:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 6:23:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mfingar:

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:

Originally Posted By mfingar:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/Texasfg.jpg

Flare gun?!?!?


Actually, yes.

The folks a checkpoints in-theater requested those, giving them the ability to shoot a gov't-issue Mk-31 flare at non-stopping traffic, as part of their "escalation of force protocol"...if the vehicle doesn't stop...they have a weapon ready to unleash hell.

Good thing to have.


ETA:
product link



That is a REALLY good idea.

I have had that exact problem and you can't function the flare launcher and the rifle at the same time.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 7:12:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 7:13:46 PM EDT by MitchTheWitch]

Originally Posted By bigbore:
All ready for an OPS can. The gas port is 1" forward from the CAR position.

www.adcofirearms.com/junkpics/12_5ext.jpg


assembled

www.adcofirearms.com/junkpics/12-5EXTblaster.jpg


Goddamnit steve.

Specs please.

You will have to take the 10.0 and MUR-1 upper I bought from you on trade if you want me to buy an upper and barrel like that from you. I sold IAN my old 16" DMR WOA barrel.

PM me a total price I'd have to send you with the 10.0 and MUR. The MUR has a slight hickey from a Larue mount but other than that, both excellent condition.

Let me know.

ETA: I'm assuming it's a 10" VIS.

I also have an 11.5" BCM to sell...

Link Posted: 12/1/2007 9:21:01 PM EDT
Steve made my 12.5 for an OPS can. Came out great, and looks really good with the Stealth upper.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 9:27:27 PM EDT
Who makes LaRue's barrels?
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:00:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ORinTX:
Who makes LaRue's barrels?


Lothar Walther
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:15:00 AM EDT
I have a Dennys GTS operator barrel. I wanted the long lasting chrome but if I did it over again I would have done a Larue Stealth upper as I ended up using everything but their barrel anyways.
Here is my GTS build-
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:20:41 AM EDT
I'm mostly interested in a barrel. I've got a MUR-1 I'd probably use and I have handguards I can't give away that I'll probably use.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 11:33:46 AM EDT
Wilson 16" stainless Rock River barrel, cut to 12.5" and re-contured to .700" under the rail.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 12:23:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By EvilBert:
Wilson 16" stainless Rock River barrel, cut to 12.5" and re-contured to .700" under the rail.

img227.imageshack.us/img227/3503/1002632pw4.jpg


No thanks. I won't buy RRA anything after their M4 cut BS awhile back.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:19:58 PM EDT
hack saw?


but i doubt thats legal
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:45:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:

Originally Posted By EvilBert:
Wilson 16" stainless Rock River barrel, cut to 12.5" and re-contured to .700" under the rail.

img227.imageshack.us/img227/3503/1002632pw4.jpg


No thanks. I won't buy RRA anything after their M4 cut BS awhile back.



Kind of a silly thing to discount an entire company and line of products over.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 2:42:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:

Originally Posted By EvilBert:
Wilson 16" stainless Rock River barrel, cut to 12.5" and re-contured to .700" under the rail.

img227.imageshack.us/img227/3503/1002632pw4.jpg


No thanks. I won't buy RRA anything after their M4 cut BS awhile back.



Kind of a silly thing to discount an entire company and line of products over.


I wouldnt touch the stuff either. Its personal preference but I dont buy them anymore after having a upper combo with ramps that didnt match for shit. One of the uppers I had also was apparantly way out of spec because I couldnt get a Larue mount to go onto if for anything(but it would go on 2 other uppers in my possession without problem) It just seems like they tend to be lower quality to me so thats why I dont consider them when looking. But adco and others seem to do just fine with them
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 4:01:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:

Originally Posted By EvilBert:
Wilson 16" stainless Rock River barrel, cut to 12.5" and re-contured to .700" under the rail.

img227.imageshack.us/img227/3503/1002632pw4.jpg


No thanks. I won't buy RRA anything after their M4 cut BS awhile back.



Kind of a silly thing to discount an entire company and line of products over.


Sorry but my "morals" are not silly to me. I bought a nice lower of theirs from Pete many years ago and it was great. But then I saw what they did with ramps just to get into the M4 ramp craze.

I've got too many other choices to go with. There is absolutely no need to go with them again. None at all.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:14:51 AM EDT



Noveske 12.5" DiamondBlack-coated stainless steel barrel 1x7"
Vltor VIS-2
MSTN built.
I love it.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:38:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:

No thanks. I won't buy RRA anything after their M4 cut BS awhile back.



Kind of a silly thing to discount an entire company and line of products over.


Sorry but my "morals" are not silly to me. I bought a nice lower of theirs from Pete many years ago and it was great. But then I saw what they did with ramps just to get into the M4 ramp craze.

I've got too many other choices to go with. There is absolutely no need to go with them again. None at all.


Call me crazy but I don't think not liking RR because of their feed ramps rates as a "moral" issue.

Second, the barrel is made by Wilson, not RR. I bought it from RR but they can be had from many different vendors.

Link Posted: 12/3/2007 8:35:08 AM EDT
They butchered ramps and put out crap just to jump onto the gravy train. That's a bad business ethic and I won't subscribe to it or be a part of it.

If I don't get a Noveske with polygonal rifling it will be a LaRue or one of Denny's. I've had a WOA 16" middy and the Wilson is probably the last on my list...

Thanks though.

I like your rifle and may pursue that VIS.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 8:47:39 AM EDT
Here's my 12.5" Noveske

Link Posted: 12/3/2007 9:37:31 AM EDT
you VIS guys are really killing me.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 1:20:24 PM EDT
Tag for info.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 1:26:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/3/2007 1:28:29 PM EDT by Gamma762]

Originally Posted By bigbore:
All ready for an OPS can. The gas port is 1" forward from the CAR position.
www.adcofirearms.com/junkpics/12_5ext.jpg
assembled
www.adcofirearms.com/junkpics/12-5EXTblaster.jpg

Do you get custom gas tubes made, or just cut down and reform longer ones?


Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:
you VIS guys are really killing me.

Me too. At a more reasonable price they could sell a lot of them. As is I'm just waiting to see what happens with SCAR and Masada pricing.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 1:27:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 11:50:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:
you VIS guys are really killing me.


Then don't look at this one.

Link Posted: 12/4/2007 6:00:24 AM EDT
So you finally found what you were looking for eh? I've rummaged through so many threads and found you looking for the same thing!

I've already got the exact lower setup but would have KAC flip ups...
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:01:13 AM EDT
UPSguy:

That appears to be a 12.5" bbl in a VIS-2A (10") rail, with a surefire 556AR suppressor adapter

I didn't think that combo would work as you need (according to Surefire) 2.75" of BBL.


What's up???
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:04:18 AM EDT
Probably some custom cutting on Steve's part
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:14:18 AM EDT
No custom cutting on Steves part. Just a mislabed VIS, I mean super rare only one of its kind never to be duplicated bet you wish you could have one just like it 9" VIS.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:15:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gthirteen:
UPSguy:

That appears to be a 12.5" bbl in a VIS-2A (10") rail, with a surefire 556AR suppressor adapter

I didn't think that combo would work as you need (according to Surefire) 2.75" of BBL.


What's up???
Sure looks like it will work to me
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:17:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:
So you finally found what you were looking for eh? I've rummaged through so many threads and found you looking for the same thing!

I've already got the exact lower setup but would have KAC flip ups...


Actually you saw this listed on my EE thread.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:31:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/4/2007 10:32:49 AM EDT by Gthirteen]
didn't see the post above.
didn't count the holes, either.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 7:16:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/4/2007 7:17:25 PM EDT by Gamma762]

Originally Posted By bigbore:

Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Do you get custom gas tubes made

yes

Neat. What's the minimum? Have you considered putting the "intermediate" length (the Vltor gas system for 18" barrels, like 10.5" gas length) into production? Seems there might be as much of a market for that length (for 18" and even 16-17" barrels, especially for the 3gun shooters) as for the 12.5" barrels.
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Link Posted: 12/4/2007 7:35:05 PM EDT
IIRC the intermediate gas system was meant for use as a mid length when Eric Kincel worked at KAC, but the Armalite midlength became the standard.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 7:42:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By UPSguy:

Originally Posted By MitchTheWitch:
So you finally found what you were looking for eh? I've rummaged through so many threads and found you looking for the same thing!

I've already got the exact lower setup but would have KAC flip ups...


Actually you saw this listed on my EE thread.


Thought I saw you looking for stuff in a few more threads besides that one I kept asking you about

Not quite sure on where you want to mount your sling huh?
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