Are there any stampings, configurations, styles, or other markings that would indicate an upper is pre-ban or not?

Yes, I know it's the lower that ususally counts....

TIA

Quoted: Are there any stampings, configurations, styles, or other markings that would indicate an upper is pre-ban or not? Yes, I know it's the lower that ususally counts.... TIA

Since *upper* receivers are NOT serial numbered in any way and never have been, all you can say about an upper is that it is, or is not, in pre ban *configuration*. A pre ban configured upper has the bayonet lug and threaded muzzle for a flash hider. Other than that, that is all you can say with authority.

It IS the lower that counts. You could not even say an A1 upper was truly built before the ban as all the parts are still readily available and there are NO serial numbers on any of the parts. You could simply build at anytime an upper but saying it was built before the ban is impossible to tell.

You cannot prove it one way or the other.


Why the question????

My thanks to you both, no wonder I was confused by the question.

I sold an upper, and the person wanted to know if it was pre-ban...but I'm not the original owner.  I have no documentation. Therefore I can only say, "it has a threaded barrel, FH, and bayo lug".

Quoted: My thanks to you both, no wonder I was confused by the question. I sold an upper, and the person wanted to know if it was pre-ban...but I'm not the original owner.  I have no documentation. Therefore I can only say, "it has a threaded barrel, FH, and bayo lug".

Then it's in preban configuration---but unless you sold it to someone who lives in a state like New York, where such things still count, it's a meaningless designation in this day and age.

Quoted: Quoted: My thanks to you both, no wonder I was confused by the question. I sold an upper, and the person wanted to know if it was pre-ban...but I'm not the original owner.  I have no documentation. Therefore I can only say, "it has a threaded barrel, FH, and bayo lug". Then it's in preban configuration---but unless you sold it to someone who lives in a state like New York, where such things still count, it's a meaningless designation in this day and age.

/whistles tunelessly...

You could talk to Lauer.  When I stopped in there back in January the guy behind the counter was talking about them (possibly) serializing their uppers with their lowers in case a ban came back.  Can't say it appealed much to me.

Quoted: Quoted: My thanks to you both, no wonder I was confused by the question. I sold an upper, and the person wanted to know if it was pre-ban...but I'm not the original owner.  I have no documentation. Therefore I can only say, "it has a threaded barrel, FH, and bayo lug". Then it's in preban configuration---but unless you sold it to someone who lives in a state like New York, where such things still count, it's a meaningless designation in this day and age.

and in NY the upper could have been built yesterday if it is on a pre 9/13/94 lower

Quoted: You could talk to Lauer.  When I stopped in there back in January the guy behind the counter was talking about them (possibly) serializing their uppers with their lowers in case a ban came back.  Can't say it appealed much to me.

Why?