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Posted: 8/12/2004 4:24:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/12/2004 4:24:56 AM EST by Bartholomew_Roberts]
I was checking out some new mag plates and followers to rebuild some magazines and decided to see if Magpul had the aluminium presets for the M93 yet (they don't).

However, I noticed that they are selling the DET1 stocks at a discounted price of $165. These are apparently the first batch of Magpul stocks sent to the USSOCOM Marine Detachment One when they stood up. These stocks have been replaced by the M93AR version and it looks like Magpul is selling off the returned stocks at a discount.

I figure that as collectors items, these will be pretty tough to beat given the unique history. Even if you don't have any collector's interest - $165 for a Magpul stock is still about $60 less than the going rate.

DET1 Stocks

Link Posted: 8/12/2004 11:45:14 AM EST
OK, I'll bite (and expose my ignorance).

What is the difference between these 'Det1' stocks, and the current models?


Link Posted: 8/12/2004 12:02:45 PM EST
Well, the DET1 stocks are in a special tan molding color that was specifically requested by MARDET 1 and is not available in the rest of the Magpul line.

I believe these stocks are also the M93 version - so they have slightly different stock geometry, fewer clip attachment points on the buffer tube unit from the current production M93A. In the M93A, the cover over the buffer tube is flush with the sides of the stock to give it a more Crane/ACR feel and there are more clip points across that cover.

The M93A-R version that MARDET 1 is reportedly using now has a reinforced tail section in addition to the M93 changes. I do recall others mentioning that this section broke on the M93 stocks during stuck bolt clearance drills (slamming the toe of the stock down on the deck at a 45-60 degree angle to free a stuck bolt).

However, most all of that info is gleaned from just hanging out on AR15.com so it may not be 100%. I have no association with Magpul or DET1; but people who do hang out here. Hopefully they will chime in.
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 12:16:34 PM EST
MCSOCOM Detachment 1

or

MCSOCOM Det. 1
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 12:55:20 PM EST
Already out of stock.
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 2:01:40 PM EST
Damn, that new grip looks pretty sweet. Can't wait to see more pics of it in its various configurations.

Link Posted: 8/12/2004 2:03:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Redbone:
Damn, that new grip looks pretty sweet. Can't wait to see more pics of it in its various configurations.

www.bizplaces.com/magpul/images/Products/grip1.jpg



I guess you missed this?
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 2:46:25 PM EST
That does sound like a great deal for a Magpul stock.
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 3:04:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
That does sound like a great deal for a Magpul stock.



Yeah, to bad it looks like they are all gone...
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 6:46:18 PM EST
These don't include the buffer assembly, do they?
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 6:49:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 8:23:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 8:57:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/12/2004 8:58:51 PM EST by Stickman]
What sort of warantee do they come with? The price is interesting, but for a T&E used piece, I am more than a little shy. I've T&E'd more than my fair share of equipment, and I know how it was always treated....
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 8:57:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/12/2004 8:59:32 PM EST by CYBIN]
Ultra cool.

Rich,

you are quickly becoming my favorite part of this site.

ETA and not in a gay way keep up the good work.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 3:55:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By Magpul:
All the above is correct and never listed in one place like that - well put together B_R



Will work for Magpul products if you need ad copy
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 4:41:41 AM EST
How close is the 'Tan' color to Coyote Brown?

Link Posted: 8/13/2004 4:45:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By JC_:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
That does sound like a great deal for a Magpul stock.



Yeah, to bad it looks like they are all gone...



That sucks!
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 5:57:15 AM EST
The stocks are not all gone, as Magpul mentioned in this thread.

If you go to the link, there is a picture of a coyote brown stock right above the DET1 stocks. They don't appear to be very close at all to me.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 6:16:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
The stocks are not all gone, as Magpul mentioned in this thread.

If you go to the link, there is a picture of a coyote brown stock right above the DET1 stocks. They don't appear to be very close at all to me.



I tried to order one and it says that this item is out of stock. Knowing that they have been used and maybe abused, I'll pass.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 6:38:55 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/13/2004 9:53:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2004 9:55:22 AM EST by Magpul]
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 10:38:08 AM EST
Order is in

Thanks Bartholomew_Roberts for bringing this to our attention.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 2:33:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2004 2:34:02 PM EST by Va_Dinger]

Originally Posted By JC_:
Order is in

Thanks Bartholomew_Roberts for bringing this to our attention.



I thought they were sold out?
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 2:50:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By Magpul:Opps I had "inventory" switched on the item which incorrectly said it was out of stock. This is fixed now. If ordering I will send out the best condition I can find unless you specifiy different on the special instructions box (somepeople like things with more character).



Rich has fixed the bogus message, better hurry, I got two coming
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 3:11:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2004 3:14:44 PM EST by jar3ds]
richard...

thanks for sending the followers...

---

i have a question though... why did Det1 get rid of these stocks? Did they get new ones or are they sing differnet stocks...?

also... what is the status of the metal re-enforcement plates for the stocks?

Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 12:10:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By JC_:

Originally Posted By Magpul:Opps I had "inventory" switched on the item which incorrectly said it was out of stock. This is fixed now. If ordering I will send out the best condition I can find unless you specifiy different on the special instructions box (somepeople like things with more character).



Rich has fixed the bogus message, better hurry, I got two coming



10-4
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 8:16:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/14/2004 8:16:47 AM EST by knightone]

Originally Posted By jar3ds:

i have a question though... why did Det1 get rid of these stocks? Did they get new ones or are they sing differnet stocks...?

also... what is the status of the metal re-enforcement plates for the stocks?

Thanks!



You must've missed the info on the Magpul site:

"These stocks were special order Tan in color and were used by USMC DET1 on their issue M4s from the day of the units activation. After 6 months of training these were replaced by the newer M93A in coyote brown."
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 9:20:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 9:25:21 PM EST
received mine today.
Mine was in excellent shape. very happy.
what would be the best buffer for these?
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:51:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By EX11B:
received mine today.
Mine was in excellent shape. very happy.
what would be the best buffer for these?



I would guess an H buffer.

I got my two yesterday. I asked for a super nice one and a beater with lots of character. One was almost new and the other was not to far off. Great value.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:44:12 AM EST
One of these should go perfectly with the LMT upper I'm ordering in a few days.
Order's on the way.

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:51:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:12:46 PM EST
Where were you last week with this?
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:26:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 6:08:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 9:59:02 PM EST
I just received some of the antitilt followers, they are awesome, so awesome that I order another 3 paks along with two more panels for my rails. Now since I got someone from Magpul, canyou tell me what is the diff. bet the experimental (C. brn) Magpul and the production ones. I ordered some from you and just wondering
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 11:38:06 AM EST
I just got mine the other day from Rich as well. The condition was better than I thought it was going to be in...

Personally, I don't think the color of mine is too far off from the coyote brown.....

Ooorah!

-mbd


Link Posted: 8/26/2004 7:38:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/26/2004 7:39:21 PM EST by BravoCompanyUSA]
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 3:47:08 AM EST
I think I have 9 4. Or maybe it was 4 9???? I have to check when I get home...

mbd
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 7:02:19 PM EST
So looking at the picture of the USMC DET1 training, is it correct to assume that the stock was the only piece of furniture that was tan color?

Thanks,
00
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 7:45:17 PM EST
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