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Posted: 11/11/2012 1:37:05 PM EDT
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I know you guys can help me out with this.
Here is what I know: According to the serial number it was made in 1973. Appears to have been re-barreled, as you can see some DA put in a vise and it has the wrong Delta Ring for that period. I am guessing it probably had a 20 inch barrel from the factory. Also not sure it would have come with a standard butt stock and a carbine length barrel. Also take a look at the front sight post…it has an allen head screw in it almost like an adjustable Gas Block, not sure I have seen that before. Any comments, thoughts, or ideas are welcome Sorry I don't know why the photos want upload....such a process Thanks Mark https://s1303.beta.photobucket.com/user/msligar/library/#/user/msligar/library/?&_suid=1352673010359033969704120081706http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag159/msligar/DSCF9241.jpg" />http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag159/msligar/DSCF9256.jpg" />http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag159/msligar/DSCF9255.jpg" />http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag159/msligar/DSCF9248.jpg" />http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag159/msligar/DSCF9243.jpg" /> |
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I know you guys can help me out with this. Here is what I know: According to the serial number it was made in 1973. Appears to have been re-barreled, as you can see some DA put in a vise and it has the wrong Delta Ring for that period. I am guessing it probably had a 20 inch barrel from the factory. Also not sure it would have come with a standard butt stock and a carbine length barrel. Also take a look at the front sight post…it has an allen head screw in it almost like an adjustable Gas Block, not sure I have seen that before. Any comments, thoughts, or ideas are welcome Thanks Mark here's a link to the library of pics: http://s1303.beta.photobucket.com/user/msligar/library/ looks like a SP1 that was modded. the serial is too low to be a factory carbine. the pistol grip was changed to a lone star ordnance stowaway grip. the type e trapdoor a1 stock is also too late for this serial. does the barrel have any markings? barrel was changed along with the delta ring. a flash hider that replicates the moderator and grenade ring (attached backwards) was permanently attached. not sure why, it looks 16" without the muzzle device. the allen screw is a mod we've seen a few times. speculation was that it was done on carbines to make the gas tube removal/installation easier. not much looks original other than the lower and upper. |
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Thanks for posting the link. I guess I am not as smart as I thought about uploading the photos.
No Markings on the barrel. The barrel is 11 inches without the flash supressor I’m not as familiar with the older AR’s as I want to be but I had the same thoughts about parts being changed. The rifle was brought to me by a guy that said it belonged to his Father who has passed away and wanted to traded it in on an updated AR, also what is a good reference source for the older stuff Thanks Mark |
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No Markings on the barrel. I’m not as familiar with the older AR’s as I want to be but I had the same thoughts about parts being changed. The rifle was brought to me by a guy that said it belonged to his Father who has passed away and wanted to traded it in on an updated AR yeah it's pretty much a parts gun at this point. it might be a good shooter. if you do decide to part it out, that lower is worth extra due to it's preban status to someone in NY. |
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I know you guys can help me out with this. Here is what I know: According to the serial number it was made in 1973. Appears to have been re-barreled, as you can see some DA put in a vise and it has the wrong Delta Ring for that period. I am guessing it probably had a 20 inch barrel from the factory. Also not sure it would have come with a standard butt stock and a carbine length barrel. Also take a look at the front sight post…it has an allen head screw in it almost like an adjustable Gas Block, not sure I have seen that before. Any comments, thoughts, or ideas are welcome Thanks Mark here's a link to the library of pics: http://s1303.beta.photobucket.com/user/msligar/library/ looks like a SP1 that was modded. the serial is too low to be a factory carbine. the pistol grip was changed to a lone star ordnance stowaway grip. the type e trapdoor a1 stock is also too late for this serial. does the barrel have any markings? barrel was changed along with the delta ring. a flash hider that replicates the moderator and grenade ring (attached backwards) was permanently attached. not sure why, it looks 16" without the muzzle device. the allen screw is a mod we've seen a few times. speculation was that it was done on carbines to make the gas tube removal/installation easier. not much looks original other than the lower and upper. This sounds about right - honestly, though, if it's a decent shooter as is, that pinned moderator's not horrible, even with the backwards grenade ring. Better than most of that vintage. I'd frankly just put a new CAR stock on the thing with an NDS two position extension, swap the grip for an A1, and call it a GAU-5/A/A clone on a 601 lower. I wonder - regarding the set screw mod on the FSB - could you pull the gas tube and post some pictures/examine it, as well as removing the set screw? I don't think I've yet heard a good explanation for why it was done that way. Maybe it's a plug for a cut down rifle length gas tube? ~Augee |
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This sounds about right - honestly, though, if it's a decent shooter as is, that pinned moderator's not horrible, even with the backwards grenade ring. Better than most of that vintage. I'd frankly just put a new CAR stock on the thing with an NDS two position extension, swap the grip for an A1, and call it a GAU-5/A/A clone on a 601 lower. I wonder - regarding the set screw mod on the FSB - could you pull the gas tube and post some pictures/examine it, as well as removing the set screw? I don't think I've yet heard a good explanation for why it was done that way. Maybe it's a plug for a cut down rifle length gas tube? ~Augee here's some threads when it came up before: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=320592 http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=413304 |
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This sounds about right - honestly, though, if it's a decent shooter as is, that pinned moderator's not horrible, even with the backwards grenade ring. Better than most of that vintage. I'd frankly just put a new CAR stock on the thing with an NDS two position extension, swap the grip for an A1, and call it a GAU-5/A/A clone on a 601 lower. I wonder - regarding the set screw mod on the FSB - could you pull the gas tube and post some pictures/examine it, as well as removing the set screw? I don't think I've yet heard a good explanation for why it was done that way. Maybe it's a plug for a cut down rifle length gas tube? ~Augee here's some threads when it came up before: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=320592 http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=413304 And viola! 
Appears to have come up during my periodic absences.
~Augee |
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