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Posted: 7/9/2003 8:22:25 AM EDT
I want to get the carry handle portion cut away along with most of the mounting area leaving only the rear sight and one thumbscrew left to attach it to my flattop upper. That way I have the factory sight mounted at all times and can still mount my Aimpoint on the now exposed rail. Have any of you ever done this? I saw a picture of someone who had this done somewhere but now of course I can't find it. I have an ARMS #40 and the truth of the matter is I can't stand that friggin sight. No elevation adjustment pisses me off. I was thing about the Bushmaster sight but I don't like the way it sits so far forward of the charging handle. Shorter sight radius equals poorer accuracy in my book. I'd love to hear your opinions on whether or not this is a good idea and if it will work. Thanks.
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 8:52:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:21:36 PM EDT by Troy]
I've done two, and its easy, once you get over cutting up a $100. part. This is not mine,
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 8:55:02 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/9/2003 5:53:10 PM EDT
Wouldn't that hinder a good clear sight picture using an optic? I mean, I understand that with a flip-up rear sight unit it is up only if/when you need it, therefore not interfering with a quick, clear field of view. Thanks.
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 6:01:25 PM EDT
No, actually it co-witness's correctly with most red-dot optics; OKO,Aimpoint,EOTEC,ect.
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 6:11:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:21:46 PM EDT by Troy]
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 7:13:50 PM EDT
I put my handle in the spare parts box and mounted a Bushmaster Modular Accessories System flat top rear sight.
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 7:14:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy: [url]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=13969[/url] [url]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=13970[/url] -Troy
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So what's the difference in those bottom 2 pics ?? Just the angle position of your camera ??
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 7:29:10 PM EDT
Troy, may I take a stab at that? I believe the middle photo is a sight picture simulating hard cheek weld and nose to charging handle. The bottom photo would be with your head ever so slightly raised up. Notack. Thanks for the pic, that is exactly what I am shooting for on a Bushy flattop. Q- Does it co-witness dead on the dot or in the lower half of the EOTech window? Thanks to all you AR15'ers for your freely shared knowledge and nice pictures. I just haven't decided whether it has saved me money or cost me money... Tom Bergman
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 7:43:46 PM EDT
You can buy this ready-made from DPMS for ~$70... [url]http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=5556[/url] I have one and it works great, except that it was slightly mis-machined and thus had to be Dremelled a bit to get the full range of elevation adjustment.
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 7:45:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:22:12 PM EDT by Troy]
Wouldn't something like this be a bit cheaper and save you from having to cut a complete carry handle?


168.215.71.67/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=FT-RS
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 8:42:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:22:22 PM EDT by Troy]
I admit not owning one of the rear sights pictured above, but a shooting friend does and his screws come loose. KevinB whose opinion and posts I believeto be quite credible has also had problems with his.

If you want to do it yourself, go on and cut the handle. If you'd rather not do it, I do believe Wes and Paul over at www.mstn.biz sell a milspec back up iron made from an already cut handle. There were extremely limited nymbers of these, but I do believe I saw they are available agian. They're tough stuff and made my LMT.



Here's the for sale thread
Link Posted: 7/9/2003 8:58:59 PM EDT
What about this Bushmaster rear sight ? to vulnerable ?? [url]http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/bmas/yhm-643k.asp[/url]
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 11:22:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:22:45 PM EDT by Troy]
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 11:48:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:22:56 PM EDT by Troy]
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 1:40:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:23:12 PM EDT by Troy]

Originally Posted By Redbone:
Wouldn't something like this be a bit cheaper and save you from having to cut a complete carry handle?




I have had one of the DPMS sights, and I found two problems. It uses two mounting screws, instead of one like a CCH or the LMT, and takes up too much real estate on the receiver. And the thumb screw pins have a reputation for being too weak, and breaking. It is a nice piece, and would work well on a bench gun, but I no longer trust it in the field.
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 1:48:05 PM EDT
Thanks a lot for all your help guys. I never thought I would get this many responses. Operation "Restore Sight" has officially got underway. I made the initial cuts lastnight and all that's left to do now is fine tune it with a file and then refinish. I put it on my rifle to see how well it sits with my Comp ML2 and right now the irons sit a little high in the scopes sight picture. I'm using the Rail Grabber as my mount so I ordered the spacer for it in order to get a proper co-witness. Once again I thank all of you for the help.
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 4:10:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:23:24 PM EDT by Troy]
Thanks for the info. Troy-san
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 6:58:36 PM EDT
Any tips on the actual cutting of the carry handle?
Link Posted: 7/10/2003 8:21:54 PM EDT
I just used a hacksaw on mine, then dremeled the edges, and hit it with some Alumahyde II. The cut's not as straight as the one in the picture, but it's okay...it certainly does the job. The bigger problem was me having so much stuff on my workbench when I did it that I managed to lose both the elevation spring and detent lol.
Link Posted: 7/11/2003 4:50:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2004 7:23:37 PM EDT by Troy]
Maryland AR15 "How To" Projects

The link above will take you to wealth of cool how-to projects, including cutting the carry handle (it's towards the bottom).

--Otter
Link Posted: 7/11/2003 5:18:06 AM EDT
AR clean, bench messy. Heh. Thanks all. Nice thread 00, didn't intend to hi-jack it. Tom
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