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Posted: 12/9/2002 12:38:45 AM EDT
I hear a strange noise when firing my 20" Hbar.  I think its the recoil spring.  Anyone know how to get rid of the noise?
Link Posted: 12/9/2002 1:09:29 AM EDT
[#1]
OK..

Someone is going to post "Put a little grease on it."

Then  someone is going to reply "Grease would collect dirt and crap, you don't want to do that."

Then 5 people will say "Get used to it, it's the sound of an AR15.  It also lets you know when the mag is empty because it sounds different."

Then someone will post about Olympic Arms pneumatic buffers...



The long and the short of it [:D]

The noise is normal.
Link Posted: 12/9/2002 1:10:52 AM EDT
[#2]
CLP or moly grease in the buffer tube - a little dab'll do 'ya.
This won't silence it completely as it's a normal weapon function (I kinda like it); if you truly don't want to hear it your only option is Oly Arms' pneumatic recoil reducer.

Edited to add: Shadowblade, you need to play the lottery today, my brother...
Link Posted: 12/9/2002 11:13:35 PM EDT
[#3]
Oly Arms' pneumatic recoil reducer is the best way to go, if youcannot stand the doink...
Link Posted: 12/9/2002 11:22:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
OK..

Someone is going to post "Put a little grease on it."

Then  someone is going to reply "Grease would collect dirt and crap, you don't want to do that."

Then 5 people will say "Get used to it, it's the sound of an AR15.  It also lets you know when the mag is empty because it sounds different."

Then someone will post about Olympic Arms pneumatic buffers...



The long and the short of it [:D]

The noise is normal.
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You hit the nail on the head!!!

LMAO!
Link Posted: 12/9/2002 11:51:27 PM EDT
[#5]
"Get used to it, it's the sound of an AR15. It also lets you know when the mag is empty because it sounds different."

Second of Five
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 12:45:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Grease would collect dirt and crap, you don't want to do that.
[:D]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 1:40:19 AM EDT
[#7]
I love that sound!
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 1:57:30 AM EDT
[#8]
Send it to me.
You will not be able to hear the noise from Fla.
I will let you know when it gets better??


[:D]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 2:24:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Put Tetra gun grease in there and clean it out every 1000 rounds I never had a problem with it.  You need enough grease to hold all the crap particles in suspension and still provide good lube without gumming up.  I bet it would take about 2000-3000 rounds to cause a malfunction.  One day I will have to do a test.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 2:52:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Remove spring & buffer.

Fill buttstock with peanut butter, cement, and Elderberries.

Go buy the Streisand DVD, "Funny Girl". Enjoy.

Cook for 35 min @ 350°F

There, you solved your buffer spring noise broblem! Your buttstock will now not allow that noise to occur. Since you don't like that noise, you'll probably LOVE ole Barbara...
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 3:34:20 AM EDT
[#11]
Its AR queef - its natural
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 4:29:32 AM EDT
[#12]
sounds like a damn slinky to me.
I remember the first time i shot my mew armalite.  WTF is this.  my AR10 doesn't sound like this.  is it broken?  it sounds ridiculous!
I want a real gun.  so I used a dab of grease.  yes my grease is dirty.  so what?  it does not affect the operation.  

have you noticed any metallic or ozone like smell when the bolt slams forward?  that's the space in your "space gun".
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 5:15:26 AM EDT
[#13]
I remember seeing a lubricant that looked like black powder.  Since it was powder form, it wouldn't collect dirt.  Anyone ever try that product?
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 5:27:40 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 5:43:16 AM EDT
[#15]
he must mean graphite and don't call him Shirley.


i love that line
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 9:42:22 AM EDT
[#16]
Get used to it, it's the sound of an AR15. It also lets you know when the mag is empty because it sounds different!


(four more people need to say this)

-Spaceman

Link Posted: 12/10/2002 10:42:24 AM EDT
[#17]
AIRPLANE (1980)

"Surely you must be joking."

"I'm not joking, and don't call me Shirley."

I'm with you, what a great movie!!
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 11:21:53 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
AIRPLANE (1980)

"Surely you must be joking."

"I'm not joking, and don't call me Shirley."

I'm with you, what a great movie!!
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[url=http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~rkogan/humor/airplane.html]AIRPLANE [/url]

Jivemn2 : Mnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Attndnt : Can I get you something?
Jivemn2 : S'mo fo butter layin' to the bone. Jackin' me up.
 Tightly.
Attndnt : I'm sorry I don't understand.
Jivemn1 : Cutty say he cant hang.
Woman4  : Oh stewardess, I speak jive.
Attndnt : Ohhhh, good.
Woman4  : He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know
 if you can help him.
Attndnt : Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as
 soon as I can with some medicine.
Woman   : Jus' hang loose blooood.  She goonna catch up on the`
 rebound a de medcide.
Jivemn2 : What it is big mamma, my mamma didn't raise no dummy, I
 dug her rap.
Woman4  : Cut me som' slac' jak!  Chump don wan no help, chump
 don git no help.  Jive ass dude don got no brains
 anyhow.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 11:40:32 AM EDT
[#19]
Get a pre-ban with the collapsible stock.  Mine makes sort of "bonk!" noise.

And, yes, it does make a different sound when it's time to reload.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 11:47:10 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
[url=http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~rkogan/humor/airplane.html]AIRPLANE [/url]

Woman4  : Oh stewardess, I speak jive.
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The juxtaposition of that line with the actress speaking it, the Exceptionally-White Barbara Billingsley, make this, to me, the funniest moment in movie history.

Back to topic at hand...

Get used to the sound, it's supposed to be like that.  Etc., etc.,... different when time to reload...
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 11:49:35 AM EDT
[#21]
mine goes  [red]cha[/red]-[blue]ch[/blue][green]ing![/green]


doinking noise means its due for a tuneup.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 1:42:53 PM EDT
[#22]
You need to glass bed the buffer tube with Brownell's Accu-Glas. There's nothing better than an accurized stock.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 2:03:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I hear a strange noise when firing my 20" Hbar.  I think its the recoil spring.  Anyone know how to get rid of the noise?
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Buy an AK!
[@:D]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 2:58:33 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Get used to it, it's the sound of an AR15. It also lets you know when the mag is empty because it sounds different!


(four more people need to say this)

-Spaceman

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Three more!
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 3:11:41 PM EDT
[#25]
I read a while ago on another board that TUBB was making something for this,but I haven't been able to find the widget for sale anywhere.Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 3:24:13 PM EDT
[#26]
My 870 makes this funny cha-chunk noise everytime I shoot it.  How do I make that go away?
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 3:31:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Doink noise is bad, I would get a gunsmith to install a silent spring, that goes sproink. That is what you need for better harmonics.
[;)]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 4:32:02 PM EDT
[#28]
Naw, it's the spring.  Springs are bad ideas that never seem to go away.  You need to get one of those rubber balls, the kind that seem to defy physics.  Get one the right size and put that in your stock instead of the spring.  

Let me know how it turns out.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 5:00:49 PM EDT
[#29]
As usual, technology has provided an answer to the problem. It is cost effective and it can be found here: [url]http://www.aearo.com/rightchoice.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 5:24:38 PM EDT
[#30]
i think we have thoroughly answered ar15junkie1's problem with his doink.



[size=6][red][b]NEXT QUESTION !!![/b][/red][/size=6]
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 5:41:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Thought I'd add that AAC makes a hydo buffer too, to get rid of the noise. They make two versions, one for regular A2 stocks and the other for collapsible ones.
Link Posted: 12/10/2002 10:02:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Look what I started.  Thanks for the ear plug solution.  I'll give that a go..

Were can I find info about this hydro buffer?
Link Posted: 12/11/2002 3:17:38 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Look what I started.  Thanks for the ear plug solution.  I'll give that a go..

Were can I find info about this hydro buffer?
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Oly arms website. (Pneumatic buffer)

If only the search function worked...
Link Posted: 12/11/2002 10:25:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Graphite will corrode aluminum if moisture is introduced.

If using a dry lube, use teflon.
Link Posted: 12/11/2002 10:28:33 PM EDT
[#35]
K, next question..

My AR's all make this loud [b]BLAM[/b] when I pull the trigger..

WTF? Eh?
Link Posted: 12/11/2002 11:19:16 PM EDT
[#36]
[b]Shadowblade:[/b] Oh ARjunkies whose AR's go "doink", we have brought you your pneumatic buffer... May we go now?

[b]AR15junkie1:[/b] It is a good pneumatic buffer. I like the laurels particularly. But there is one small problem.

[b]Shadowblade:[/b] What is that?

[b]AR15junkie1:[/b] We are now... no longer the ARjunkies whose AR's go "doink".

[b]Random AR15junkie:[/b] doink!

[b]AR15junkie1:[/b] Shh shh! We are now the ARjunkies whose AR's go "Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-ptang-zoom-boing-mumble-mumble".

[b]Random AR15junkie:[/b] doink!
Link Posted: 12/11/2002 11:24:12 PM EDT
[#37]
Shadowblade... time to update your list of stock answers to the recoil spring noise question.

Behold the [url=www.sinclairintl.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=14-5200&type=store]Tubbs Speedlock AR15 Buffer Spring!!![/url]

I have no idea if it works as advertised, and frankly, I couldn't care less, because the "boing" noise is of no consequence to me.  

Much ado about nothing IMHO!
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 3:05:02 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
My AR's all make this loud [b]BLAM[/b] when I pull the trigger..
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We can take care of that.  We have this tool that attaches to the end of your gun and it quiets things down a LOT. :-)
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 9:30:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Ah, but do you have anything to quiet the tool at the rear of the gun?

SNARF!
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 11:00:43 AM EDT
[#40]
OH WELL, I guess I have to get on the "wagon" too....

The incomplete noise tells me I need to reload because the bolt is locked open. No bystanders hear the "doink".

"[blue][b]It's NORMAL![/b][blue]
As to the "BLAM" noise, Mark is correct, there is a solution for that, looks like this:
[img]www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=SBR&album_id=74005&image_id=17¶m=17022[/img]

I thought doink was something wife and I do?
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 11:25:02 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
If only the search function worked...
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Hey smarty...look at the upper right corner.  Search has been back for weeks now.
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 12:39:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Getting rid of doink noise  

It isn't noise. It is the music of the AR. Putting a bunch of grease, etc is just asking for more trouble. It collects dirt, crap, yadda, yadda, yadda, Very *LIGHTLY* oil the tube, spring and buffer. Hear the music and rejoice in the sound of freedom.
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 1:06:07 PM EDT
[#43]
IF you shoot it without hearing protection, you won't hear the "doink" ... disclaimer: please don't ever shooot any weapon without hearing protection.

As a child, did anyone ever used to sit behind the door and doink and sproink those little springs that were attached to the wall as a door stop? The AR15 brings back childhood memories.....

BLAM! chrunk, bump-chriiinnninggg-doink ....
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 6:38:19 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:

As a child, did anyone ever used to sit behind the door and doink and sproink those little springs that were attached to the wall as a door stop?
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I did, drove my parents crazy. I thought the sound was fun. I think I wore out every one in the house.
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 7:06:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Lubricate the buffer, spring and inside of the  tube.  TM 9-1005-249-20, Table 2-3
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 7:36:50 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:

As a child, did anyone ever used to sit behind the door and doink and sproink those little springs that were attached to the wall as a door stop?
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I did, drove my parents crazy. I thought the sound was fun. I think I wore out every one in the house.
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i still do that
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 7:41:08 PM EDT
[#47]
... as long as you're not complaining about [b]boink[/b] noises!
Link Posted: 12/12/2002 7:56:44 PM EDT
[#48]
I kinda like it.
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 1:57:46 AM EDT
[#49]
I'm guessing from all of these responses that my "doink noise" is perfectly normal.  I may give the hydro buffer a shot.  

My ar15 is the best rifle I own for many reasons.  I guess I expect it to work correct and sound correct.  Can't hardly blame the manf' seeing as apparently only oly worked out a solution.  The noise sounds un-natural but I suppose I'll get used to it.   I didn't notice a change in pitch when the mag was empty, but I didn't listen for it either.

Thanks for the suggestions..

Link Posted: 12/20/2002 11:11:34 AM EDT
[#50]
Lithium grease from WalMart ($.97 for a lifetime supply)will eliminate the sound, and it will take a heck of a long time/lot of rounds to cause a fouling issue. Then all you have to do is clean it. I just check mine, and if it looks spotless in there, I let it go. Don't ever put grease in the upper or lower, but IMHO in the buffer area it's fine.



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