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Posted: 3/26/2009 3:30:01 PM EDT
My first AR15, a pre-ban collapsible stock M4 clone, was sold several years ago to fund another purchase. Recently, I purchased an upper and lower and used some old parts to cobble them together. I was initially going to replace the fixed stock with a collapsible one, but I actually have come to appreciate the balance and stability of the the current one.

While looking through this forum, it's been a challenge to find others running a similar setup. I'd love to see some.





Link Posted: 3/26/2009 3:31:54 PM EDT
Not a rarity in Mass
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 3:32:33 PM EDT
I prefer a fixed stock carbine. I went the CavArms route for mine.





Link Posted: 3/26/2009 3:37:21 PM EDT
These are my two test mules, affectionately known as 'Click' and 'Clack'



They are old skool Rock River lowers with Colt internals, uppers, and furniture.

Link Posted: 3/26/2009 3:46:05 PM EDT
I like a Sully on mine...it brings the balance point back, making it swing a lot better.



Link Posted: 3/26/2009 3:50:55 PM EDT
If ya want to see ALOT of fixed stock AR's come visit the "Big Apple" (NY).

BTW nice rig .
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 4:20:07 PM EDT
Yep I'm running a pinned collapseable stok here in NY
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 4:26:05 PM EDT
Another one for the CavArms route.

Good product. Top notch people.

-Z
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 4:29:18 PM EDT
No shortage of fixed butts in my harem. Fact is the only carbine that's still got her slider is the 6520LE Colt.....which along with the A2 rifle are
the two finest ARs ever assembled on this planet !
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 4:32:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2009 4:34:34 PM EDT by Tex78]
I like the die-hard simplicity of a simple fixed stock, but I prefer the LOP of the carbine stock in the 2-from closed position. I've considered a Sully, but the length is just a little too short and where's the QD sling points?

Tex78
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 4:41:50 PM EDT
I had a fixed stock(pinned M4) on my RRA until I got out of NJ recently and put a MOE on there.
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 5:00:01 PM EDT
another NY'er with solid stock postban, but i just picked up a preban 14.5" carbine, i get it next week
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 5:03:27 PM EDT




Link Posted: 3/26/2009 5:17:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MMcfpd:



I believe that is beautiful...
You may have just begun my RETRO addiction...
Specs please....

I want!
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 5:24:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sharpshooter27:
Specs please....


It's a Colt 16" pencil barrel and Colt FA BCG in NoDak Spud A1 upper and lower receivers with a Geissele SSA trigger and A1 furniture (triangular carbine handguards from Tony's Customs) - so, basically a 6520 in retro drag. One of my favorites.

Link Posted: 3/26/2009 5:42:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 6:02:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By snailfan:
My first AR15, a pre-ban collapsible stock M4 clone, was sold several years ago to fund another purchase. Recently, I purchased an upper and lower and used some old parts to cobble them together. I was initially going to replace the fixed stock with a collapsible one, but I actually have come to appreciate the balance and stability of the the current one.

While looking through this forum, it's been a challenge to find others running a similar setup. I'd love to see some.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/snailfan/AR15_2.jpg?t=1238108582

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/snailfan/AR15.jpg?t=1238110126


This was a Stag Model II...now it's this. And I live in the KY and can have a collapsible, but prefer the A2 for the balance. Here she is.
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 6:25:17 PM EDT
Another Cav Arms light weight carbine.

Link Posted: 3/26/2009 6:48:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By monkeyman:
Another Cav Arms light weight carbine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/mac66/101_4273.jpg


Question....what kind of magazine is that? I did some horse trading and ended up with 4 of them. They have no Mfg. markings at all.
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 7:20:36 PM EDT
Not by choice - but a good way to go in NJ .........




J223...
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 10:09:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By roadsiderob:
Originally Posted By monkeyman:
Another Cav Arms light weight carbine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/mac66/101_4273.jpg


Question....what kind of magazine is that? I did some horse trading and ended up with 4 of them. They have no Mfg. markings at all.


israeli orlites.
Link Posted: 3/26/2009 10:27:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2009 10:27:58 PM EDT by kevinb120]
I'm building a middy KISS with fixed buttstock
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 12:30:27 AM EDT
I've been eyeing a Sully but how short is it? I know it may sound odd but I never thought I'd like the collapsing stocks now I have one.......

First started with it two clicks out shot it a bit and then went to one click-now? I have it all the way closed and like it that way! and I'm 6'0 with longish arms so is the Sully as short as a fully closed collapsing type? 'cos if it's not I may not like it too much.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 2:10:23 AM EDT
I love my Sully Stock. It's comparable to a collapsible pulled out one notch. His site says the LOP is 8 inches. He also offers an optional +1 inch buttplate.

Link Posted: 3/27/2009 2:38:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 3:06:54 AM EDT
Here toy go.


Link Posted: 3/27/2009 3:35:10 AM EDT
my favorite colt M4gery has an A1 stock on it.

pics later
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 5:29:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 5:59:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
I love my Sully Stock. It's comparable to a collapsible pulled out one notch. His site says the LOP is 8 inches. He also offers an optional +1 inch buttplate.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a172/wombatman77/101_0043-1.jpg


I love that picture!! How did they do that?
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 6:40:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2009 6:42:13 AM EDT by ti8589]
EH I FAIL AT INTERNETS
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:08:46 AM EDT
Sorry I've got no pick of my favorite former Colt model R6530 Sporter Lightweight carbine.

The model R6530 was a pre ban, blue label, have a lightweight pencil 16" carbine gas system barrel, no bayonet lug, A2 fixed carry handle upper and A1 style lower receiver.

I like its A1 length but A2 style solid stock, rifle buffer and it was my most reliable carbine, never had a FTF with that one.


Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:23:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 9:14:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tex78:
I like the die-hard simplicity of a simple fixed stock, but I prefer the LOP of the carbine stock in the 2-from closed position. I've considered a Sully, but the length is just a little too short and where's the QD sling points?

Tex78


I've drilled and epoxied in my own cup as below. I've seen another post in the Defensive Edge pages where the guy got a Grail from Sully with two cups installed on the side; one up close to the receiver and one closer to the buttplate. Otherwise, I've recently seen this option.

Here's where I put mine...
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 1:05:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jason934:
Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
I love my Sully Stock. It's comparable to a collapsible pulled out one notch. His site says the LOP is 8 inches. He also offers an optional +1 inch buttplate.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a172/wombatman77/101_0043-1.jpg


I love that picture!! How did they do that?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=76&t=840724

Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:07:26 PM EDT
I have a Ciener .22 kit and I was considering using a Cav Arms lower to make a lightweight dedicated .22 carbine.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 7:42:50 PM EDT
No sir. I've got an A2 stock on my CMMG Middy. First AR. Honestly never cared for 6 position stocks much. I recently built a lower and put a Magpul MOE on it. I do really like it. Maybe I'm starting to come around.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:01:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:23:09 PM EDT
While it handled fine I never liked the way my carbine with fixed A2 stock looked.
Here's pics before and after I switched to a middie upper and ARFX fixed stock.



Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:32:43 PM EDT
I like them all.



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