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Posted: 5/29/2015 10:33:07 PM EDT
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I'm trying to put together a dedicated combat rifle, using high-quality parts, while keeping costs and weight down. I figure I am in the market for a 16" upper with mid-length gas system, with a tactical light and decent sling. I'll need good irons, and eventually a decent (but not expensive) red dot. I've put together a parts list:
BCM upper, with BCG and Gunfighter Mod 4 CH. The rest is all from Primary Arms: Aero Precision stripped lower Spike's Tactical LPK (sans trigger group and pistol grip) Seekins Precision billet trigger guard Geissele G2S trigger Anderson mil-spec buffer tube kit MOE+ pistol grip, MOE stock, MOE MVG VFG, ACS-L mil-spec stock. PA flashlight and Magpul Scout Mount. Magpul MS1 sling. You might have noticed I left out a rear sight. That is my first question, folding or fixed? On my trash can rifle I am running a Kreb's aperture rear sight leaf, with a TRS-25 on an Ultimak rail. It's pretty sweet, and I love having a lower 1/3 co-witness. I'd like to do something similar on my EBR2B, eventually. I noticed that everyone uses folding rear sights nowadays, and just co-witnesses the red dot to the front sight. Is using a fixed rear sight a no-go? The Troy fixed rear battlesight seems perfect. If folding is the order of the day, I plan on going with the equivalent from Troy. Next, is the PA advanced microdot up to the task? I like the TRS-25 on my AK, but it looks pretty flimsy. Third, given that this is a 16" barrel with middy gas system, and an A2 style front sight post, I should be able to mount one of these on my rifle, right? Thanks. |
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As far as a fixed or folding rear sight that is personal preference. I like a folding when using a red dot or any type of optic. If I'm just running with iron sights I then like them fixed.
As far as optics I know you said your looking for low cost, but I feel the Aimpoint micro is worth the money, especially since your putting together a combat rifle. I'm sorry I have no experience with the Primary arms micro dot. A suggestion for lower cost but good quality red dot is the Vortex Sparc 2 micro red dot. I want to say the price is around $199. The question about the bayonet, I have no idea if it will work. Personally it is not needed and use that money towards a quality optic or ammo. |
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The question about the bayonet, I have no idea if it will work. Personally it is not needed and use that money towards a quality optic or ammo. I disagree, I love 'em. I have the folding bayo on my SKS, and a nice long one for my trash can rifle. I want to keep the trend going. Plus, this thing is both a Kabar and a bayonet in one. Bayonets are sweet and Kabars are awesome, so the OKC must be awesweet. It's even longer than a regular Kabar, which makes it that much cooler. Also, my view is the best gunfight you can have is the one that never has to happen in the first place. If I can scare someone away just by waving cold steel at them, so much the better. People are intimidated by intimidated by naked steel in a very primal way. Animals, after all, have no fear of firearms, naturally. But even a mad dog knows better than to throw himself on a sharp stick. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWlAKdlQp4[/youtube] Plus, let's stipulate that the feminists are right, and guns are some sort of Freudian phallic symbol. That means that a bayonet is a phallus that you can attach to a replacement penis. Therefore, if I were ever to pull the trigger on someone, the last thing that poor bastard would ever see is a metaphorical erection attached to another metaphorical erection, being fired by a man with a literal erection. Then he has to be my slave for eternity in the afterlife. That's why I like bayonets. Every man needs a bayonet on his rifle, just to make it that much more of a phallic symbol. Buy a bayonet, piss off a feminist. Thanks for the kind welcome. |
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I can't stop laughing. Bravo.
----- On topic... What do you mean by 'combat rifle'? Are you actually going overseas to do security work, or is this going to become a combat ready rifle for worst case scenarios? You're pretty good to go on the parts listed, and as long as each part has a purpose there shouldn't be too much issue. As for the sights... Primary Arms' advanced micro dot is pretty robust, and they've got a third party video that shows one being dragged around, blown up with tannerite, and still holding zero. It isn't an Aimpoint, and PA will say the same, but you're hard pressed to find an optic that durable with 50k hrs of battery life for that money. My AA powered red dot from them has done quite well for me with the usual banging around and such my rifle gets. Fixed or folding for the front sight is personal preference. If you go with fixed, then you can always do a lower 1/3 cowitness if you want to have a less cluttered sight picture through your optic. I like having mine with absolute cowitness since I can easily index things off the front sight if my optic goes down (hasn't so far), and I don't have to use a different cheek weld to use my BUIS. Consistency is a nice thing. For the rear sight... You'll probably want a folding rear sight, especially if you do an absolute cowitness. It might be ok with a lower 1/3, but depending on how the rear sight is designed the rear sight might get annoying in your field of view. If you're going with just iron sights, then stick with fixed. |
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I What do you mean by 'combat rifle'? Are you actually going overseas to do security work, or is this going to become a combat ready rifle for worst case scenarios? I mean SHTF. I really want a rifle that is, as much as possible, a hammer. By that I mean that I can pick it up and it just works. Obviously, something as complex as a firearm is always going to be prone to breakdown, especially if not treated properly. I've got a bolt-action (Yugo M24/47), which I suppose is about as reliable as a rifle can get. Still, it's a bolt action, and 8mm is hard to find. My SKS is semi-auto and in a common caliber, but is heavy as hell and has a fixed magazine. My AK is semi-auto, surprisingly compact with the stock folded, in a common caliber and takes removable magazines. On the downside, its an AK; so it's all-around inferior to an AR. Also, it's milled, so it's heavy. Also, 7.62x39mm Soviet may be cheap online, but looking around at gun stores in my local area and even the Cabela's down in Buda, and there isn't much in my AO. For TEOTWAWKI I'll need what everybody else is using. Here in Texas, that means an AR. I'm not a collector. I don't even believe in the term "collector's value." That Yugo Mauser? I can't find ammo locally for it, so I'm gonna Bubba the shit out it once I get around to it. Expensive as it is, .308 is pretty easy to find in a pinch. I own guns for practical reasons. I want some sort of carbine to defend myself with. The AK is alright for now, but I need an rifle I can rely on. Also, one that I can hump all the way down from Austin to S. Texas, if need be. |
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Honestly, your list looks pretty good to go. The upper is where most things can go wrong, and BCM's stuff is pretty rock solid, though others will have to chime in with their personal experience. You'll likely hear nothing but good things about them though.
The trigger on the lower is what most folks jack up, and it's usually from them toying with it to make it 'better'. A plain mil spec single stage trigger might be best for simple reliability and simplicity, but to each their own. Geissele has a solid reputation behind them, and they make quality triggers, though expensive as hell. The Bushnell TRS isn't all too bad, and there are plenty that have had good luck with it. Personally I'd rather go with a Primary Arms advanced series red dot if I had to keep it under $250, and they work hard to keep you (the customer) happy. If you really want to go all out, then save up some more, check out the used section of the Equipment Exchange, and wait for an Aimpoint to come up at a good price. I've seen plenty of T-1's and M4's sell for $550 or less. There's always iron sights too, folding and fixed. The great thing about BUIS is that they don't require batteries, and they're extremely rugged. You can always go sans optic and just run fixed irons, which saves on weight and batteries, and keeps the rifle even simpler to use. Optics are nice in that they're a combat multiplier when used for the correct application, but they're not a requirement for a good rifle. What kind of hand guard are you planning on getting? |
| For a handguard I was going to go with the Magpul MOE, midlength. The only things I am attaching to it is a VFG and the light, so I really don't see the need to spend mucho dinero on some sort of keymod or M-LOK rail system. Plus, those look heavy anyway. Th MOE handguards look pretty light, all things considered. Also, I can even get them FDE. |
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You don't really need a free floated rail, but it's nice to have. I also hear some good things about the MOE SL hand guards, and they look nicer than the standard ones do since they finally bridged the gap where the locking collar is.
Also, MI's SSK series keymod rails are amazingly slim and light; the 12" version only weighs in at 8.5 ounces. Others will be heavier, though still manageable, and definitely a step above (in weight) to something beefy like YHM's Diamond series quad rails. |
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I disagree, I love 'em. I have the folding bayo on my SKS, and a nice long one for my trash can rifle. I want to keep the trend going. Plus, this thing is both a Kabar and a bayonet in one. Bayonets are sweet and Kabars are awesome, so the OKC must be awesweet. It's even longer than a regular Kabar, which makes it that much cooler. Also, my view is the best gunfight you can have is the one that never has to happen in the first place. If I can scare someone away just by waving cold steel at them, so much the better. People are intimidated by intimidated by naked steel in a very primal way. Animals, after all, have no fear of firearms, naturally. But even a mad dog knows better than to throw himself on a sharp stick.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWlAKdlQp4
Plus, let's stipulate that the feminists are right, and guns are some sort of Freudian phallic symbol. That means that a bayonet is a phallus that you can attach to a replacement penis. Therefore, if I were ever to pull the trigger on someone, the last thing that poor bastard would ever see is a metaphorical erection attached to another metaphorical erection, being fired by a man with a literal erection. Then he has to be my slave for eternity in the afterlife. That's why I like bayonets. Every man needs a bayonet on his rifle, just to make it that much more of a phallic symbol. Buy a bayonet, piss off a feminist. Thanks for the kind welcome. Quoted:
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The question about the bayonet, I have no idea if it will work. Personally it is not needed and use that money towards a quality optic or ammo. I disagree, I love 'em. I have the folding bayo on my SKS, and a nice long one for my trash can rifle. I want to keep the trend going. Plus, this thing is both a Kabar and a bayonet in one. Bayonets are sweet and Kabars are awesome, so the OKC must be awesweet. It's even longer than a regular Kabar, which makes it that much cooler. Also, my view is the best gunfight you can have is the one that never has to happen in the first place. If I can scare someone away just by waving cold steel at them, so much the better. People are intimidated by intimidated by naked steel in a very primal way. Animals, after all, have no fear of firearms, naturally. But even a mad dog knows better than to throw himself on a sharp stick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWlAKdlQp4
Plus, let's stipulate that the feminists are right, and guns are some sort of Freudian phallic symbol. That means that a bayonet is a phallus that you can attach to a replacement penis. Therefore, if I were ever to pull the trigger on someone, the last thing that poor bastard would ever see is a metaphorical erection attached to another metaphorical erection, being fired by a man with a literal erection. Then he has to be my slave for eternity in the afterlife. That's why I like bayonets. Every man needs a bayonet on his rifle, just to make it that much more of a phallic symbol. Buy a bayonet, piss off a feminist. Thanks for the kind welcome. LMAO |
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