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Posted: 9/29/2004 10:53:58 PM EDT
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I'm debating wether or not the term "smart weapon" applies...
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"smart" is not the word I would use. |
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Old photo.
At last count it's at least 18 months old. But it's still funny. |
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A .223 M16A2? No way.
But a 5.56 one? Yeah, if the shooter does his part. |
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Well, if he traverses too far to the right, he could bring down that airplane.
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I would like to see the video of the guy who took down a good sized plane with an M16 or similar weapon.......
Wes |
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Shop a caption on that and send it to the PS'ed picture thread... that is AWESOME!!!
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Nope, not that plane. He might kill the pilot, but he aint likely to knock down an A-10. If he shot the cockpit area below the window the backblast of the richocheting bullet fragments may get him if he is too close. I worked on a few of these things when I was in the AF. That thing is a flying tank with a badass gun. I think someone could take down a plane if they knew what they were doing...but this thread is mainly about a funny pic. Good pic by the way. Wes |
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How about this for a caption... it's the one I'm sending out in my e-mails.
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Lots of helicopters in Nam went down to AK47s and such, but usually only after lucky hits or hitting the pilots
Fact. I saw on a Histoy channel documentary where a desperate (and lucky as ....) US pilot drifting down in his parachute shot a German ME 190 pilot in the skull with a Colt 45. Only occurance I ever heard of such fire bringing down any FIXED wing airplane since WWII or during WWII. In WW1 lots of small biplanes took rifle fire and lost power. Not to mention lots of pilots gettin shot after accidentally flying over an enemy platoon or division.. But a modern plane going down from rilfe fire....No way. It would take a shot to the pilot. And the A-10 itself can take more damage than any other plane including the workhorse B-17. And an IAF F-15 once flew with only one wing. It had to fly at near Mach 1 all the way to landing and nearly overshot the runway, but the body had the lift to keep her going at speed. But no non magnum rifle has what it takes to inflict enough damage Get a Barret 50 cal or something like a 458 Lott or 338 Laupa and a lucky shot.. then you can take out an engine |
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Hmm... how bout put an Al Keida prisoner on an A-10 like that and see if he is ok on landing... now thats prisoner abuse for ya. Dont give him a gun of course.
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Shit, that'd be fun!!! Where do I sign up?! |
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I think it was "Aviation History" which not so long ago printed a story about a dogfight between an L5(?) and a Fiesler Storch. They got into a turning dogfight, with the observer in the American plane firing repeatedly with his M1911A1. Eventually, the German dug in a wingtip and crashed. The L5 landed and took the Germans prisoner, one of whom had a gunshot wound in the leg. The spent bullet was found in the prisoner's boot when it was removed. |
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could be wrong, but doesn't the jarhead basic bible have detailed instructions on how to take down aircraft? i think it was 200m lead on fixed wing and 100m for choppers.
that pic is my new desktop. |
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Dig out the history books. Very few aircraft are as well armored as the A-10. Most military aircraft are _very_ vulnerable to rifle fire. The hard part isn't damaging or destroying an aircraft with a rifle bullet, it's managing to connect the rifle bullet with the aircraft. www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/call/call_2-88_chpt4.htm |
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Still not good enough on an A-10.. gotta take them BOTH out. Oh, and the A-10 was literally built around the 30mm tank buster gun in the nose. In technical terms... it's a flying bigass gun, my bet is it gets you first. Running away or hiding in a bunker won't help you either. Probably best to play dead and wait for it to move on. |
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Agreed. The A10 is about the most redundant and toughest plane in the world and definitely in our military. Russia's SU 25 Frogfoot is pretty tough. As is our B-52, old B-17, P-47, and believe it or not the F-16 has a tough reputation. The A-10 has survived direct missile hits and had large chunks of metal shot off by AAA. Yes it will fly with only one engine... and while fully loaded once its in the air. It is stealthy in its own sense due to low altitude agility and a slow loiter speed. Plus its quiet, .......ok back on topic No regular rifle round will bring down anything like the A-10. You would be lucky to take out the engine and if you did... it would still fly and kill you worser The armor on many planes new and old would simply stop most hits from 5.56 and some hits from 308....ok ill shut up now |
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Pakistan, I hear. |
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Don't leave out the F-15! It can fly on one wing! Oh hey, off the top of your head what's the lead on a 400mph target at a mere 500meters? |
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Since the 5.56 round was designed only to wound, I would guess you could only wound an aircraft with it.
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125 meters.....really...I worked it out for a 16 inch barrel shooting M193 Bout 120 from a 20 incher |
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