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Posted: 9/23/2006 11:35:22 AM EST
I figure I can kil zombies out to say 100yrds with it. I'm not sure about reliability though with it being the short barrel.. I understand the firebreathing pig helps with the back pressure but what am I looking at with that kinda thing?
Link Posted: 9/23/2006 11:40:13 AM EST
Mine runs great. It is 100% with or without the krink brake. With 69gr SMKs it will hold about 3/4" at 100 yards. I load the 69s pretty hot though. Great barrel but be prepared to be patient waiting on one.


Link Posted: 9/23/2006 11:49:43 AM EST
really huh? Damn
I looked at the site and I figured it would be like an instock ship as i ordered it thing.
Link Posted: 9/23/2006 12:05:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Snaps:
really huh? Damn
I looked at the site and I figured it would be like an instock ship as i ordered it thing.


NOt exactly.

Worth the wait though. My suggestion would be to order the barrel at the same time you do your form 1 to SBR the gun and the ATF approval will more than likely beat the barrel to you!!



Link Posted: 9/23/2006 7:13:12 PM EST
Each one a work of Art. Got to Give John A Very Big Plus1 That guy knows how to build Barrels!
Link Posted: 9/23/2006 8:36:15 PM EST
just browsing i'm thinking about just getting te whole upper now. Doesn't seem too bad of a price considering what their whatever you call that compensator goes for.
Link Posted: 9/24/2006 3:20:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2006 6:12:57 PM EST by buddyhoohaw]
I've been waiting on a CQB barrel for 8 weeks now....should be in soon.
Link Posted: 10/8/2006 9:00:58 PM EST
Can I use a a standard front sight block on these? I won't be adding a free float tube for quite some time.
Link Posted: 10/8/2006 9:39:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2006 9:40:14 PM EST by sledhead907]
I ordered mine from GlobalTactical on the 25th of September. I called them up last week and they said that John was in the middle of making a batch of the 10.5's and that I should see it within 3 weeks or so. Not sure how many barrels denny is getting, but you might want to call and see if he has any coming in that don't have an owner yet.


ETA: Anyone have one with a 9" rail attached? I would like to see how it looks before I put the $ down on a rail.


Link Posted: 10/9/2006 2:18:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By sledhead907:

ETA: Anyone have one with a 9" rail attached? I would like to see how it looks before I put the $ down on a rail.




From NoveskeRifleworks website:




Impressive!
Link Posted: 10/9/2006 4:26:29 AM EST
I can't say about the 10.5", but my Noveske 7.5" runs flawlessly.
Link Posted: 10/9/2006 4:40:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By sledhead907:

ETA: Anyone have one with a 9" rail attached? I would like to see how it looks before I put the $ down on a rail.




From NoveskeRifleworks website:

www.noveskerifleworks.com/images/cqbupper.jpg


Impressive!


I prefer the look with the 10" rail

Link Posted: 10/9/2006 9:22:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By DavidC:

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By sledhead907:

ETA: Anyone have one with a 9" rail attached? I would like to see how it looks before I put the $ down on a rail.




From NoveskeRifleworks website:

www.noveskerifleworks.com/images/cqbupper.jpg


Impressive!


I prefer the look with the 10" rail

www.digitalperf.com/photo/albums/NFA/noveske1.jpg


Damn...I like that look even better. I like the look of the rail ending right at the KX3.

Good looking rifle!
Link Posted: 10/9/2006 9:41:23 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 5:25:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 7:17:16 PM EST by Irishfly]
N/A
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 6:10:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 7:05:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 7:17:34 PM EST by Irishfly]
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Link Posted: 10/18/2006 7:49:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 8:07:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2006 8:31:24 AM EST by Cato]

Originally Posted By Irishfly:
I hadn't seen any bad press about Noveske bbls until recently but then again, how many guys actually shoot em. I mean really shoot them. Actually use them for hard core training or as a tool?


You can count on Pat Rogers and the 10-8 crew that they use their carbines
as tools- and they give Noveske two thumbs up!
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 9:06:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cato:

Originally Posted By Irishfly:
I hadn't seen any bad press about Noveske bbls until recently but then again, how many guys actually shoot em. I mean really shoot them. Actually use them for hard core training or as a tool?


You can count on Pat Rogers and the 10-8 crew that they use their carbines
as tools- and they give Noveske two thumbs up!


I don't doubt they do (endorse JHN bbls)................

But, this is pretty conclusive............


Originally Posted By Irishfly:

because maybe he did something to invalidate any normal warranty


After explaining that he was in the class and did a peal using about 4 1/2 mags (30 round) expended on SEMI-auto, John told him "yep, you got it too hot". .....SNIP..... John said "I don't warranty my barrels and they will fail if you use them like that."



I won't spend that kind of money on a premium AR/M16 bbl. if the maker isn't confident enough in it to back it up.

of course it's your money, and YMMV

Link Posted: 10/18/2006 12:01:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 7:16:58 PM EST by Irishfly]
N/A
Link Posted: 10/18/2006 12:14:06 PM EST
There is a difference between using a barrel and abusing it. A suppressor can turn normal use into abuse in a hurry.

As for warranty? Most places have NO WARRANTY. That doesn't mean they don't have excellent customer service. A warranty is a contract.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:36:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cato:

Originally Posted By Irishfly:
I hadn't seen any bad press about Noveske bbls until recently but then again, how many guys actually shoot em. I mean really shoot them. Actually use them for hard core training or as a tool?


You can count on Pat Rogers and the 10-8 crew that they use their carbines
as tools- and they give Noveske two thumbs up!


Yeah... something doesn't smell right here. John is about as much a stand-up guy as they get. I had some problems with a custom carbine that turned out to have nothing to do with his barrel, but he paid for 2-way shipping and did some testing & work on it at NO cost to me. He just said, "My name is on the barrel, so I want it to work."

After that, I ran that carbine in a Pat Rogers class and had no problems at all putting around 1400 rds through it in 3 days. Didn't run it with a can attached, but it got hot enough to discolor the gunkote a little and still shot sub-MOA. Also, that 10.5" Noveske you see from time to time in SWAT Magazine is EAG's (or Pat's) carbine and it sees a LOT of rounds downrange as a "loaner" in classes.

I dunno... maybe 150 rds+/- back to back with a suppressor would damage it, but I can't believe it's a problem with Noveske barrels in general.

Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:52:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 7:20:05 PM EST by Irishfly]

I can't believe it's a problem with Noveske barrels in general.



Apparently it's not. Noveske has revisited the issue now and had the bbl tested. From what I understand he is making good on the bbl now and turning down a new one. Hopefully things will work out well for all those involved in which case I can't see having anything bad to say about John and his products. None of us understand the reluctance to replace the bbl right away but he has come through in the end. I edited the rest of my posts in light of the new developments. Things break, things fail, but if the company stands behind it then s'all good in my book.

Debo
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 1:16:57 AM EST
so some of y'all with the shorter barrels do you have problems if you're just using say the supressor adapter instead of their brake/compensator/whatever they call it?
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 2:58:45 AM EST
I do not doubt that Noveske makes great barrels.

I just cannot justify spending that kind of $$ for one when I have had nothing but good luck with a good quality chrome lined barrel. (say a Colt or LMT barrel)

Spend the extra $$ on ammo
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 3:40:33 AM EST
I'm the same way, but the noveske upper (whole thing) wouldn't cost me much mre than a colt.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 5:53:59 AM EST
I am building a SBR using the Noveske 10.5/KX3 along with the LMT enhanced F/A bolt carrier group. Should I be concerned with the overall function using these parts?

I have heard about "potential" problems but have never heard from a first person user...always, "my friend had this problem" or "I heard about this guy who had problems", etc.

Link Posted: 10/28/2006 9:17:52 AM EST
If your SBR will be FA then the enhanced bolt may be helpful. If it is SA then you are just wasting your money on the enhanced version. (IMHO)
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 4:27:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By cszy67:
I am building a SBR using the Noveske 10.5/KX3 along with the LMT enhanced F/A bolt carrier group. Should I be concerned with the overall function using these parts?

I have heard about "potential" problems but have never heard from a first person user...always, "my friend had this problem" or "I heard about this guy who had problems", etc.




My experience with the LMT enhanced BCG is that the bolt is very nice, but the extractor springs in mine didn't last long before they got pretty weak. Also, the enhanced carrier has an extra gas bleed-off hole that makes it bleed too much gas in all but one of the 4 14.5" to 16" barreled uppers I tried it in. Made 3 out of 4 uppers short-stroke most of the time.

I'd say save your money and just buy an MP tested M16 bolt/carrier group and use something like the "Crane upgrade kit" here - http://www.gandrtactical.com/cleaning.htm

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:32:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:51:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By sovereign:
Another post with problems concerning Noveske barrels


That is the same story being posted here. IT could be posted on ten other boards and it would still be about the same buyer and barrel. The issue is handled and the shit no longer needs to be stirred.

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:52:20 PM EST
tag
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 2:01:16 PM EST

The issue is handled and the shit no longer needs to be stirred.


+1
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 2:02:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By HighlandMac:

Originally Posted By sovereign:
Another post with problems concerning Noveske barrels


That is the same story being posted here. IT could be posted on ten other boards and it would still be about the same buyer and barrel. The issue is handled and the shit no longer needs to be stirred.



Really? I IMed Irishfly before referencing the other thread to see if it was the same story and he said he is not a poster on M4carbine. BTW, I own a Noveske so I'm not trying to stir the pot. Just want to know if I should be on the lookout for some problems down the road.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 2:10:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2006 2:10:28 PM EST by S-1]
I personally do not understand why someone would need a "High End" Custom barrel in a 10.5" gun. The main purpose of the CQBR is for CQ and Vehicle work. The factory Colt and LMT barrels perform great, at CQB distances and longer if needed. To spend that kind of money for 1/2" tighter groups at 100 yards on a gun that is designed for CQ is IMO dumb.
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