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Posted: 7/30/2016 12:05:21 PM EDT
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Hi all, first post and enjoying the site.
Building my first AR and have my lower completed "Milled lower" Trying to decide on what upper to start with ? My goal is target/fun and hunting. SS barrel or nitride ? 1.7 twist or ? Length carbine or mid ? Thanks for any direction |
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Sionics LMT PSA is an option if you're budget minded. or build your own. If you're not comfortable putting it together, find a good gunsmith local, or gather the parts and ship them to someone like ADCO or Weapons Outfitters. Upper assembly is like $35. I would fo with 1:7 or 1:8 midlength or carbine. Midlength offers some benefits, but I wouldn't turn down a great deal on a carbine length. Google the difference if you feeel like reading a thousand different opinions rehashed a hundred different times. I would also stick with a standard chrome lined or nitrided. Again. lots of opinions, but if you buy a reputable brand with good customer service, you'll be okay. SS barrels generally cost more, though not always. If you like the looks; go for it. Pretty much what I'm saying is, there are lots of options. Break down the arguments for the different components; those aren't new discussions. For the money, PSA is hard to beat, but if I could afford more I would got with BCM, Sionics, or LMT. |
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Getting into the black rifles certainly can seem overwhelming. There's a lot going on, a reputable brand should provide you years and years of reliability. Regardless of a carbine or midlength system or a chrome lined or nitrided barrel.
One great thing is that with some simple tools, you can always change out a handguard or a barrel later on. It ook me awhile to find out what I really wanted. |
| Good advice given above.. I just went through the same dilemma. I did not fear a build, I just added up the cost and went with a built upper from http://www.apfarmory.com/. It had everything I was looking for at a reasonable price. The quality appears to be outstanding. |
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1/7 1/8 or 1/9 twist ?
What I have planned is to make this a MSR to add to my lineup. The tactical stuff is cool but i aim to keep it as clean and snag free as possible. Hunting will be hogs and Yotes within 100 yards. I have a 308 Savage bolt action that i built that serves as my main big game rifle. |
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1/7 1/8 or 1/9 twist ? What I have planned is to make this a MSR to add to my lineup. The tactical stuff is cool but i aim to keep it as clean and snag free as possible. Hunting will be hogs and Yotes within 100 yards. I have a 308 Savage bolt action that i built that serves as my main big game rifle. The twist of barrel you use dictates the length of bullets your barrel will stabalize. The 1:9 twist will stabalize the 68-69 grain match BTHP bullets but maybe iffy on 70 grain Barnes hunting bullets. The 1:9 twist will shoot lighter bullets to 50 grains or less, plus is better if you ever plan on using a 22 LR conversion kit. The 1:8 twist is commonly found in Stainless Steel barrels with Wylde chambers and generally produce good accuracy from light varmint bullets to the heavier hunting and match bullets like 77 grain Sierra Match kings. The 1:7 twist barrels is what the military uses and the 1:7 twist is needed to stabalize the long military tracer rounds but is very good for shooting long hunting and match bullets. The 1:7 twist generally are not as accurate with bullets less than 55 grains. I've tried shooting 50 grain soft points out of 1:7 chrome lined barrels with poor results. The bullets are just to short but the 55 grain FMJ shoot fine. I just bought a PSA Freedom upper with 16" mid length 1:7 twist Stainless Steel barrel with premium bolt carrier and PSA charging handle. My other 5.56/223 AR-15's have 1:9 twist and I'm wanting to shoot some of the longer target bullets. I helped my Brother in Law assemble a PSA rifle kit with this barrel and I liked it enough I wanted to build my own. The Stainless Steel barrel may not last as long as a hammer forged chrome lined 1:7 but the SS might be more accurate but still has decent corrosion resistence. |
| No need to get your barrel in twist. For what you are looking at I'd go (and did) Stainless Steel. Accuracy is good. Most high end precision rifles use SS. Stainless is the new Black. It looks cool. It looks less Black Rifle. Oh, sure it doesn't last as long (that's the argument) but how many rounds are you actually going to fire? It will definitely last a good long time. What twist rate? If you aren't a precision long distance shooter, there is no dramatic difference. Is there difference, yes but not for your average shooter. Plus, the beauty part of the AR15 platform, if you don't like it swap it out. |
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Scary and Vas thank you for the posts ! I'm really leaning toward a PSA upper assembly.. No ammo dumps for me honestly. 10 round mags and if they made a 5 round I would be just as happy for this build. I just love the modules design and swap out options. Have any of you hearted anything on 22modsforall.com ? They sell SS uppers also. I beleave I would like to get 1/8 in a 18.
https://22mods4all.com/en/barreled-upper-assemblies/245696-17-stainless-steel-16-556mm-ar15-m4-handguard-.html |
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