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Posted: 2/15/2008 5:35:05 PM EDT
I thought you guys might be interested in this, it was posted over in the Class III forum.
M4 Survival Rifle Blueprints 
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Posted: 2/15/2008 8:40:26 PM EDT
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Awesome. I just wish there was more on the subject really. Maybe its not so hard heh, I haven't looked in a long time, but I don't remember there being much on the web about the M4, M6, the history of the GUU-4/P in service, and other "survival" weapons. I do have the designations for the .45 ACP shot shells that were issued to air crews as survival ammunition against snakes and other critters. That's how it always seems to crop up, bits and pieces here and there.
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Posted: 2/16/2008 7:36:45 AM EDT
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Are those YOUR parts? 
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Posted: 2/16/2008 8:21:09 AM EDT
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I knew a guy who 30 years ago cleaned out his neighbors garage. The neighbor lady was elderly, husband recently died. She paid my friend to haul off the trash and keep whatever he wanted.
Guess what was in the corner of the garage. Yep, an M4 with US Gov. property stamp.  We live on the edge of the world's largest AFB. Likely the source. |
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Posted: 2/16/2008 1:40:30 PM EDT
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Looks like a 10/22 barrel..only shorter.
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Posted: 2/16/2008 3:25:00 PM EDT
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Well the M4 was an H&R product, so I'm not sure whether it was based off of an existing in house design or not. |
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Posted: 2/16/2008 3:29:01 PM EDT
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Awesome,
any pics of one? I'm tellin you I have learned something everytime I read posts here on the Retro! |
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Posted: 2/16/2008 4:32:45 PM EDT
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These are the only pics I've been able to turn up so far.    
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Posted: 2/16/2008 5:01:33 PM EDT
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I'll take one!
 Oh this isn't the EE is it? sorry  Never have seen such a critter. Looks interesting. |
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Posted: 2/16/2008 8:48:24 PM EDT
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That has to be one of the ugliest guns I've ever seen. I wonder how hard it would be to convert a Ruger 77/22 into something like this?
 Just what I need, another project.  Doc |
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Posted: 2/16/2008 9:20:10 PM EDT
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Those two pics at the bottom show M4s with the other rifle of the time, the Ithaca M6. Just in case anyone was wondering. |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 4:37:33 AM EDT
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It's the bolt action version of a STEN.
 I've always be fascinated with survival rifles and the concept thereof. NDS will just have to make a better one.
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Posted: 2/17/2008 6:50:05 AM EDT
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Yea I am thinking a 77/22 action (in 22 hornet with a modified bolt handle) with a 10/22 barrel (not sure if the hornet is right diameter) to a NDS receiver..... |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 8:31:49 AM EDT
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Strange, but my first view of an M4 years back made me want to add a period wire stock to my Marlin 989 M2 carbine to make a 'survival' carbine. The stocks are available through Feather USA, and I think a pistol grip ATI stock could be just the ticket, although wood would be cooler. There were a few pressed sheet metal .22s designed years ago - some are pretty cool, all are really ugly. I like the idea of making one out of a 10/77. A Sten pistol grip from IMA and a Feather wire stock, and you'd have a decent clone. Nothing as cool as the real thing though.
IIRC, the original M6s were technically SBRs because they had 14" barrels. The civilian version came about because of that. I think they are cool except for that silly 'lever trigger'. |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 8:46:06 AM EDT
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For whatever reason the only M6 I've ever seen was registered as an AOW. I've seen lines that they could be registered as SBRs or SBSs, since they were designed to work with either .22 Hornet or .410 Gauge. I think the M4 technically qualifies as an SBR too. |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 12:54:58 PM EDT
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Are you talking about line-throwers? From what I see above, the M4 is definitely an SBR. It would be interesting to know if the M4 was developed by NAVSPECWAR from a line thrower. It sure looks like one. about now is when someone will post a pic of a real Bushmaster pistol - another strange bird. |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 1:03:57 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure both the M4 and M6 date to the early 1950s (they're post-war, but had T style experimental designations, T38 and T39 respectively) and were both originally designed as survival rifles. I don't think there was any special survival rifle during WWII, save the specialist .45 ACP cartridges. Heh, as to the Bushmaster/Gwinn Armpistol, someone should try and find a picture of the original Colt IMP gun. |
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