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Posted: 10/3/2004 3:30:01 PM EDT
VLTOR was originally for another project but when the AWB went away I threw it on my 20" gun for temporary evilness but now I've grown to rather liking it.

Even with an HBAR the rifle balances fine for me. Didn't think I would like the shorter length of pull but now I've realized I like being close up. Anybody else doing this?

Canadians weren't so crazy after all...

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:36:42 PM EDT
the only collapsible stock i'd put on a 20" is either a SPR type weapon (prone).

collpasibles on 20"ers are just you 20"ers (people) coming to the realization that carbines are better or trying to not admit to youself you want a carbine without buying one...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:37:01 PM EDT
Nice but where's that evil flash supressor?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:59:55 PM EDT
I think it looks pretty cool tivoli410.

IMO, all ARs are carbines anyway except those long barreled varmint guns and maybe the 30 or 50 caliber jobs.

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:12:57 PM EDT
Stick with what you like.

That said I prefer the rifle length buffer. Less recoil.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:02:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Nice but where's that evil flash supressor?

Stock is on there buying time until I do a barrel swap.

This was not a permanent change, stock belongs on a different gun.

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