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Posted: 1/10/2017 12:33:14 AM EDT
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I've got Anderson in two of my AR carbines. They're ok but I'd like better/smoother recoil.
Recommendations appreciated.. Thx |
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https://geissele.com/super-42-braided-wire-buffer-spring-and-buffer-combo.html you can find it a little cheaper and in stock on other websites just posted that because I know where it was.
I would personally go with this set up for a few reasons but to make it easier I'll link a video for you to watch. https://youtu.be/G8eyRMeEJQY There are other options but this one helps in a few areas and isn't stupid expensive. |
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I've got Anderson in two of my AR carbines. They're ok but I'd like better/smoother recoil. Recommendations appreciated.. Thx Odd. In this thread you bash Anderson. Nothing but bad luck. "returned all for refund." So, why keep an "ok" buffer and spring? link Fwiw, I run h buffers and Damage Ind. Springs, love them. |
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Depends what you want to spend. JP sells a captured unit if you're not afraid to pay to play, Spike's/Griffin/a few others sell their own version of a heavy buffer and spring pair that works well. Geissele also makes the triple braided spring combo. Again, it's how much you want to spend.
P.S. Anderson doesn't make their springs and buffers. They get them from the same place as just about everyone. So the brand is pretty much irrelevant. And what is an "OK buffer spring/buffer?" If it works, it's good. If it doesn't, it's not. The grey area here is nonexistent. It's not even just about the buffer - it's gas length, muzzle device, BCG weight, etc. You're looking too centralized. Sure, one will help but all of them play a role. |
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Depends what you want to spend. JP sells a captured unit if you're not afraid to pay to play, Spike's/Griffin/a few others sell their own version of a heavy buffer and spring pair that works well. Geissele also makes the triple braided spring combo. Again, it's how much you want to spend. P.S. Anderson doesn't make their springs and buffers. They get them from the same place as just about everyone. So the brand is pretty much irrelevant. And what is an "OK buffer spring/buffer?" If it works, it's good. If it doesn't, it's not. The grey area here is nonexistent. It's not even just about the buffer - it's gas length, muzzle device, BCG weight, etc. You're looking too centralized. Sure, one will help but all of them play a role. Damage Enhanced are supposed to last 750,000+ cycles. Sprinco is supposed to last 1,000,000+ cycles. Geissele is supposed to be good for 150,000+ cycles. There is definitely a difference in spring quality and it doesn't take much extra to get a Damage spring. I normally spend $6/spring when they go on sale. |
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Odd. In this thread you bash Anderson. Nothing but bad luck. "returned all for refund." So, why keep an "ok" buffer and spring? link Fwiw, I run h buffers and Damage Ind. Springs, love them. I can't stand Anderson. Replacing the springs and tubes. Then I'll pour gas on them and light them up. |
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https://geissele.com/super-42-braided-wire-buffer-spring-and-buffer-combo.html you can find it a little cheaper and in stock on other websites just posted that because I know where it was. I would personally go with this set up for a few reasons but to make it easier I'll link a video for you to watch. https://youtu.be/G8eyRMeEJQY There are other options but this one helps in a few areas and isn't stupid expensive. Thanks! |
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Depends what you want to spend. JP sells a captured unit if you're not afraid to pay to play, Spike's/Griffin/a few others sell their own version of a heavy buffer and spring pair that works well. Geissele also makes the triple braided spring combo. Again, it's how much you want to spend. P.S. Anderson doesn't make their springs and buffers. They get them from the same place as just about everyone. So the brand is pretty much irrelevant. And what is an "OK buffer spring/buffer?" If it works, it's good. If it doesn't, it's not. The grey area here is nonexistent. It's not even just about the buffer - it's gas length, muzzle device, BCG weight, etc. You're looking too centralized. Sure, one will help but all of them play a role. Good answer, I agree. I'm going to call a few of the companies that have been recommended. I'll tell them the facts so they can steer me to the right springs and buffer tubes. Thx! |
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I run JP springs in both rifle length and carbine because I don't feel as much drag when charging.
$20 JP buffer spring for carbine length |
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As another poster said the Anderson is the same as most of the others out there. And there is absolutely no reason to waste your money on a new buffer tube it will not change anything except perhaps how well the finish looks on the outside.
I tend to stick with standard carbine buffers myself for the added reliability since the 5.56 is already very tame. But have considered getting a new buffer spring from Springco. I must admit buffers aren't my area of knowledge but I don't understand what advantage a heavier buffer has over running a stiffer spring. The stiffer spring would add no extra weight on the rifle and should increase the reliability of the rifle when dirty since it'd have more force pushing the bolt home. I'd like to hear others opinions on the matter of heavier buffer vs stiffer spring. I doubt I ever get a heavier buffer but would definitely consider the Springco spring not for the softer shooting but for the added reliability if it can help as well as being good for the rifles life and never needing replaced. |
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A heavier buffer will delay opening slightly and pause the bcg at the rear of travel longer. A spring will just up cycle speed.
If your cycling fast you can outrun your mags though that's less of an issue for gen3 pmags that can feed rounds faster. The most important function of the buffer is to solve bolt bounce in full auto firearms. To light of a buffer and the carrier will bounce back at the same time the hammer is dropped by the auto sear. This will result in the rifle failing to fire and you will have to cycle the charging handle to shoot again. Required buffer weight is primarily determined by the weight of the barrel. The heavier your barrel the more buffer weight you will need to counter the bolt bounce. Bolt bounce is extremely rare on semi auto firearms, generally just showing up in BumpSAW's and binary setups with very high rates of fire. |
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I have run JP silent capture in the past. What I liked was the spring twang was eliminated which was nice. You dont really notice how much you actually hear the spring cycling when you cheek weld the rifle until you shot with a silent capture.
I sold it off because my I needs starting swaying to as light as possible. I now use the Taccom speed buffer setup with a david tubbs flat piano wire spring. I really love this setup. The gun just acts snappy quick and the combo is feather light. Each there own. you cant go wrong with any of the recommendations. A nice buffer setup is a value component to any AR build. |
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Thanks Jaqufrost, just what I was wanting to know. I still have quite a bit to learn when it comes to buffers/springs. I have always felt like the carbine buffer would be more reliable overall but I guess that assumption could also be wrong. I don't know why I didn't think about the HD spring making it cycle faster when a heavier buffer would slow it down. I suppose in SA a carbine buffer will work fine, but if you were to run FA you should step up to at least a H1 buffer?
That is also the first time I have heard that barrel weight played a part, I run mostly lightweight/pencil barrels so I assume a lighter buffer wouldn't have as much of an impact on reliability as a standard Gov profile or heavier? And for the Sprinco springs that has me reconsidering that as an option due to the rifle cycling faster then the mags can feed. But I doubt I'd have any issues with one of the lower levels like their White/Red combo and the next step up the Blue one. I have heard of others using the Blue one, but never the White/Red so it must be something newer? Seems like the perfect spring if you want something just a tad stronger then standard. Would probably do well in a 14.5 middy over one of the stronger springs. And as to the bolt outrunning the mags, I usually run Gen 2 P-Mags but some Gen3 and USGI's as well, so I don't want anything too fast that could cause issues. |
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Thanks Jaqufrost, just what I was wanting to know. I still have quite a bit to learn when it comes to buffers/springs. I have always felt like the carbine buffer would be more reliable overall but I guess that assumption could also be wrong. I don't know why I didn't think about the HD spring making it cycle faster when a heavier buffer would slow it down. I suppose in SA a carbine buffer will work fine, but if you were to run FA you should step up to at least a H1 buffer? That is also the first time I have heard that barrel weight played a part, I run mostly lightweight/pencil barrels so I assume a lighter buffer wouldn't have as much of an impact on reliability as a standard Gov profile or heavier? And for the Sprinco springs that has me reconsidering that as an option due to the rifle cycling faster then the mags can feed. But I doubt I'd have any issues with one of the lower levels like their White/Red combo and the next step up the Blue one. I have heard of others using the Blue one, but never the White/Red so it must be something newer? Seems like the perfect spring if you want something just a tad stronger then standard. Would probably do well in a 14.5 middy over one of the stronger springs. And as to the bolt outrunning the mags, I usually run Gen 2 P-Mags but some Gen3 and USGI's as well, so I don't want anything too fast that could cause issues. One of mine is a 14.5 mid length. I'll also check out the Blue Springco. Thx. |
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