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Posted: 8/4/2009 8:56:14 AM EDT
| I just had Bill Springfield http://triggerwork.net/ do a 3LB trigger job on my Colt 6920 and I couldn't be more pleased with the results. I'm a Quadriplegic and have very little use of my hands and have had to use a trigger activator crank to pull the trigger accurately. The activator worked ok but just wasn't the same as putting my finger in the whole to make her go boom. I can now pull the trigger in a somewhat normal fashion. It's the best money I could have spent on my AR. Thanks Mr. Springfield...your work is excellent! |
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Can someone explain exactly what he does, and how much it costs? His website is a bit vague (do I buy his trigger; send mine) What does he do outside of the 15 minute trigger job? What are the advantages over just buying a 2 stage trigger? I would guess he polishes and slightly alters the sear engagement points. To do that right takes a stoning fixture (like the one Power Custom sells) and some experience so as not to change the sear angles or to remove too much material. It's not something to be taken lightly and no it's not the 15 minute trigger job although at the prices he charges, he's skilled enough to do it quickly. But the learning curve takes quite a while to be as quick as he is and not produce an unsafe trigger. |
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I sent him 3 triggers a few weeks ago and I got them back within 3 or 4 days. I couldn't believe how nice and crisp they are! There is absolutely no creep with the 2 that I had 3lb trigger jobs done on. The DPMS trigger on my .308 AP4 has the 4lb trigger job. There is a slight bit of creep, but not much. It is a huge improvement over the stock trigger. This is a hunting gun used for short range hunting in cold weather, so I didn't want a "light" trigger.
Give him a try before purchasing an aftermarket trigger. I highly recommend him. |
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I just had Bill Springfield http://triggerwork.net/ do a 3LB trigger job on my Colt 6920 and I couldn't be more pleased with the results. I'm a Quadriplegic and have very little use of my hands and have had to use a trigger activator crank to pull the trigger accurately. The activator worked ok but just wasn't the same as putting my finger in the whole to make her go boom. I can now pull the trigger in a somewhat normal fashion. It's the best money I could have spent on my AR. Thanks Mr. Springfield...your work is excellent! There is a 4 page thread discussing his triggers by end users here http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8443 Incase you were looking for more opinions. Overall sounds like he does a good job. |
| I have 2 rifles with JP triggers and hammers. They are truly fantastic set-ups with crisp, clean, light pulls. With that said, I got my Colt trigger and hammer back from Mr. Springfield a couple weeks ago and I do not plan to buy another aftermarket trigger. I have nothing bad to say about the JP product. It is just not enough better than Bill's (IMO) to justify the price difference. You will not be disappointed with Bill Springfield's work. |
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I cannot think of another vendor that gets such glowing reviews from absolutely everyone that has used his service.
Screw it, at his prices, I can afford to send him a few triggers just to see what all the hubub is about. It'll probably make me feel like a knucklehead having just spent $300 on a Wilson Combat TTU. |
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I have 2 rifles with JP triggers and hammers. They are truly fantastic set-ups with crisp, clean, light pulls. With that said, I got my Colt trigger and hammer back from Mr. Springfield a couple weeks ago and I do not plan to buy another aftermarket trigger. I have nothing bad to say about the JP product. It is just not enough better than Bill's (IMO) to justify the price difference. You will not be disappointed with Bill Springfield's work. +1 I had RR two stag triggers before I got Bill's 4# job and would not spend the money on the two stage again. |
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I cannot think of another vendor that gets such glowing reviews from absolutely everyone that has used his service. Screw it, at his prices, I can afford to send him a few triggers just to see what all the hubub is about. It'll probably make me feel like a knucklehead having just spent $300 on a Wilson Combat TTU. I guarantee that you won't be sorry 
It takes me a solid two hours of hours of work to duplicate what Bill does for a paltry $35. His work would still be a bargain at triple the price. |
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do you send the lower or have to take the trigger out to send it for his services? I was one of "those" guys that somewhat cracked the ear on my lower installing the trigger guard so I've kind of lost my confidence in building and disassembling... You send him your trigger, hammer and disconnector along with their springs. Do not send the whole lower. 
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do you send the lower or have to take the trigger out to send it for his services? I was one of "those" guys that somewhat cracked the ear on my lower installing the trigger guard so I've kind of lost my confidence in building and disassembling... You need to send him all of the trigger components including the springs. |
| +1 for Bill's work. I didn't want to alter the original trigger group in my Colt 6940 so I bought one of Bill's 4# trigger groups. It breaks perfectly at 4#'s, has no creep and I couldn't imagine spending more on any after market trigger. Total cost $80 including shipping. Great Job!!! |
| I just got my 3# trigger back from him the other day... Excellent is all I can say. I ordered a LPK off of him, and had it within a week. Installed it on my AR on Friday, took it to the range yesterday, and was absolutely amazed at how it shot. I'd recommend him to anyone any day. |
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Can someone explain exactly what he does, and how much it costs? His website is a bit vague (do I buy his trigger; send mine).... At least for the RRA trigger group I sent him recently, in addition to stoning some of the contact surfraces, it also looks like he drilled a hole and welded in a small riser pin near the rear of the trigger bar or whatever it's called. My guess is that exactly what he does depends on the trigger parts he's working with, and whether it's a 3# or 4# job. I just leave it to him. He sometimes has parts which he can do his trigger jobs on and then sell, but he didn't have any when I last dealt with him- he was waiting for a few parts orders himself. Given the current market conditions, he might have a hard time keeping those in stock. |
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I cannot think of another vendor that gets such glowing reviews from absolutely everyone that has used his service. Screw it, at his prices, I can afford to send him a few triggers just to see what all the hubub is about. It'll probably make me feel like a knucklehead having just spent $300 on a Wilson Combat TTU. I guarantee that you won't be sorry
It takes me a solid two hours of hours of work to duplicate what Bill does for a paltry $35. His work would still be a bargain at triple the price. At triple the cost plus the FCG you could buy a nice FCG. His price is an absolute bargain! |
| before-and-after picture thread at http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=456282 |
| Well fuck it then. I know it's not like anyone can just copy what he does just by the pics you posted, but still I know there are some smiths who like to have a bit of "secrecy", you could say. And through all the numerous threads I've seen about Bill Springfield trigger jobs, I've never seen anyone post pics of the work. Even he doesn't show pics of his work on his website. I just thought there might have been a reason for that, but I guess not. |
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Copying isn't as easy as just looking and a picture and tracing.
Can you tell from those pics exactly what angles were changed?... and how much they were changed? Can you assess a fire-control set and judge how much that set needs to be modified for a four pound trigger?... for a three pound trigger? Do you REALLY understand what each of those engagement surfaces do? Do you have a fixture to hold the parts while you modify them? Do you have the tools to modify them? Do you have a welder? Well, if you do, then knock yourself out. But if you don't, you might find $35 to be quite a bargain to have somebody who has been doing it for years, do it for you, and do it right. |
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Sent my trigger out Monday afternoon, got it back on Saturday for a 3# job. Trigger is AMAZING. Absolutely NO creep and a clean crisp break. My $50 trigger breaks better than any of my more expensive ones. I wish I had known about Bill before this, would have saved a lot by not buying aftermarket triggers  My only concern is if the trigger will keep it's clean break. I guess I'll have to go shoot the shit out of it and report back. Time to break out the spikes kit and put a few k down range. |
| Don't want to dig up an old thread, but I did want to toss my $.02 in for Bill. He did a really good job on my DPMS trigger. Before I sent it to him, it was never unreasonably heavy, but had a ridiculous amount of creep. After it got back from him, 100% of the creep is gone, and it's breaking a tad lighter than it was before. I don't have a gauge, but it feels like somewhere between 4-5 pounds, although that's just a semi-educated guess. I'm very, very happy with the results. Would've been a bargain at twice the price. My trigger left my house last Monday November 16 and arrived back here today. |
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do you send the lower or have to take the trigger out to send it for his services? I was one of "those" guys that somewhat cracked the ear on my lower installing the trigger guard so I've kind of lost my confidence in building and disassembling... You send him your trigger, hammer and disconnector along with their springs. Do not send the whole lower. http://triggerwork.net/images/arparts.jpg I sent him the entire lower and he did not mind. I HIGHLY recommend his work. Best money you can spend on a trigger compared to the alternative. |
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I cannot think of another vendor that gets such glowing reviews from absolutely everyone that has used his service. Screw it, at his prices, I can afford to send him a few triggers just to see what all the hubub is about. It'll probably make me feel like a knucklehead having just spent $300 on a Wilson Combat TTU. I guarantee that you won't be sorry
It takes me a solid two hours of hours of work to duplicate what Bill does for a paltry $35. His work would still be a bargain at triple the price. Care to back up that 'guarantee'? Bill did three triggers for me. Two are perfection; the third was as totally fucked up as a thing can be; piece doubled, fired a second time when the trigger was released, safety didn't work correctly. Good as the work on the first two sets appeared, the third was crude and filed roughly and at an angle. I contacted Bill about it, and he promised to make it right, but then profound silence on his end of the line. Did I get work done by a half-trained shop monkey? Who knows. So, caveat emptor. Thirty-five bucks is only a bargain if it works. Be double damn sure you perform a function check after installing Bill's modded parts. Moon |
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