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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:36:38 PM EDT
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RRA makes a great a AR, their quality is top notch. as for wilson or colt, you will be paying more simply because the name on them, not that they are any better.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:39:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:40:24 PM EDT
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You can use you're personal weapons as on duty weapons?? Lucky you. Ok you're gonna get a TON of posts about how Colts are the ONLY AR-15 you can bet your life on. But thats NOT the BEST AR for the MONEY. IMHO RRA are the BEST for the money right now. Bushies are my personal favorite as I own 2 but they have jumped a little in price recently and are only slightly less then a COLT. RRA are a great buy for the money. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:43:35 PM EDT
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For the money right off the shelf I would say that RRA and Bushmaster are the best AR for the money.
My two suggestions: RRA Elite CAR A4  Bushmaster XM15A3 Carbine 
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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:45:54 PM EDT
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personal preference
bushmaster 
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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:49:02 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 4:13:03 PM EDT
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value-wise the Bushmaster M4 A3 Patrolmans Carbine is a good choice
They can be had brand new for about $950 Of course, for another $200, you can have the best - The Colt LE series You will likely drop that extra $200 in accessories anyway, so maybe the Colt is the answer. Both are very good |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 4:13:35 PM EDT
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I really like Bushmaster, Eagle Arms, Colt, Stag Arms, etc. Depending on how much you can get it for, you may also think about buying a lower and upper separately. Say, Stag Arms lower and upper separately from the dealers in the EE. That way you can spread out the cost over time. Get a lower first here-->www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=254846 from Eagle Arms and then an upper here-->www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=261217 from Bravo Company USA. It is a quality AR.
If you have the money saved up then I would shop around for a Bushmaster in the configuration you want. It doesn't sound like it's that important to save $100 here or there so getting a Bushmaster is what I would do. Definitely get an A3 ie. detachable carry handle in case you want to put on some optics later. If you are travelling with it on duty then it definitely should have a collapsable stock and then either a 14.5" or 16" barrel with a flash-hider. This is all IMHO only. Good luck with your purchase and stock up on mags and ammo!!! 
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Posted: 8/7/2005 4:14:15 PM EDT
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I bought my Patrolman several months ago for $950. Now they are closer to $850. That is $300-400 cheaper than the Colt. I would buy the Bushy and spend the extra cash on mags and ammo.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 4:17:09 PM EDT
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Here's my Bushy.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 4:38:23 PM EDT
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like someone stated the RRA Elite CAR A4 is a great choice, very compact and light weight......providing you don't saddle it will a lot of un-necessary do-dads, and gee wizz stuff on it. I have the "tactical entry" model and have not had any malfuction with it, and it isn't finicky with what you feed it.......RRA has great prices on their ARs, |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 5:35:58 PM EDT
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rra or dsa
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Posted: 8/7/2005 5:54:19 PM EDT
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Redfisher,
I like the Colts alot! Do you know if you can get them in a ss and or fluted barrel config? There web site is pretty crappy in my opinion.hug.gif |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:00:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:02:59 PM EDT
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My friend I shoot with everyweekend had a Bushy and said it was nothing but problems, he sold it after 6 months.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:08:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:18:01 PM EDT
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If it was a true Bushy he should have sent it back for repairs. |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:29:50 PM EDT
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Colt , Bushmaster, RRA in that order.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:39:29 PM EDT
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My RRA is a special build. Flat top, 16 in Heavy Chrome Moly 1:9, free float I will have a pic up here in a minute.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:43:54 PM EDT
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Hands down RRA is the best deal in the AR15 world
My entry tactical was $850 Chrome lined M4 feed ramps M4 shielded handguards Hogue sweet Two Stage Trigger 6 Pos stock with little wobble Side sling mount T Marked upper with RRA Logo RRA logo on standard Cardinal Forge Carry handle (dont bother with the tactical handle) Nothing comes close to that deal at that price unless you build it yourself. And it's an RRA, DEA proven to withstand worst shit you can throw at it. Not to mention the Life time warranty and guarantee on accuracy Not to mention it looks really really good I own four brands of AR's and RRA was the best purchase out of the bunch |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:48:42 PM EDT
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http://images.snapfish.com/3446698723232%7Ffp3%3B%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D85%3C%3D573%3DXROQDF%3E23239%3B7%3B7%3C873ot1lsi
Don't worry the silver scope is being replaced by an Aimpoint next trip to my shop. |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:55:32 PM EDT
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based on the fact you want it for protection i would say stick with the short barrel, and I would strongly urge you to get the A4 you can always put iron sites on if you want, but they will not be in the way if you don't. I didn't get the collapsible stock but you would probably want one.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:10:47 PM EDT
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RRA, RRA & RRA in that order.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:17:42 PM EDT
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+1, except you forgot RRA. I second the Elite Car A4 w/chrome lined barrel. WIZZO |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:21:03 PM EDT
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Bushmaster-I like their 16" superlight barrel, sweet!
Are RRA now thin under the handguards? I have asked this before without an answer. The last one I checked was an older one from when RRA was making theri m4ish barrel hbar under the barrel (what they don't know won't hurt 'em) Why not Stag over RRA? |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:25:29 PM EDT
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I think, for the most part, the barrels are still heavy under the HGs. If you order from ADCO, they can fix that.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:38:44 PM EDT
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The best value for your money? An AR you build yourself, usually for $500-$600, far less if you get the parts in deals such as on the EE boards. Doing that and using left over parts, I built mine for under $300, works like a champ.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:04:46 PM EDT
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A few threads going on like this one.
Oh well, FWIW, my opinion. Best value for the money: Stag Arms Best Overall: Colt Best Resale:Colt Most Prolific: Armalite Most Popular: Bushmaster and RRA Most underwater bumpfired: Bushmaster Red-Headed stepchild: Olympic Most Multicalibered: Olympic Most overpriced: Wilson and Les Baer Most technologically innovative: Leitner-wise and P.O.F. and honorable mention to ZM Weapons. Most unobtainable: H&K 416 Most non-existent: Ares Defense Shrike Most Urban Mythologized: Mattel Worst overall: Vulcan Arms |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:31:06 PM EDT
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My dept' allows personally owned rifles as well and I have a Colt LE6920. It is something you may have to defend your life or anothers life with. If I were you I would only look at carrying a Colt, Bushmaster, RRA or LMT. There was a dealer offering LMT's to LE/Military on the EE for a really good price. Use what is keeping our troops and contracters alive everyday.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:32:06 PM EDT
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whaaat?? |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:32:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:34:43 PM EDT
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You had to be there.  WIZZO |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 10:19:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/7/2005 10:26:31 PM EDT
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THanks for the pics DR. I always knew the underwater bumpfiring thing was a joke around here but I didn't know a dumbass actually tried it
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Posted: 8/8/2005 3:14:51 AM EDT
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Hey Pibbster,
I too am am allowed to carry a personally owned rifle on patrol. My choice was the Colt 6920 after spending some serious reading time here at these forums. Got mine for $1099 from Kesselring's in Burlington, WA. Special pricing through Keith for law enforcement only. Stay Safe! http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/bobafett126/gunporn1.jpg |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 3:44:36 AM EDT
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COLT and don't look back. why are you looking at SS and fluted? |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 7:44:59 PM EDT
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Hey Tweak,
I was looking at the fluted barrel because I thought it disapated the heat better and would last longer. I also heard the ss barrels are the best and most accurate. Any thoughts? |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 9:59:03 PM EDT
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The boost in heat disappation is minimal. Fluting doesn't make a barrel any more accurate or stiff when compared to a barrel of the same outside diameter. It will reduce the weight of a heavy barrel giving you a compromise between the heavy and lighter weight barrels.
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Posted: 8/13/2005 10:05:34 PM EDT
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RRA
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Posted: 8/13/2005 10:10:04 PM EDT
[#40]
RRA or build one yourself from good parts.
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Posted: 8/14/2005 12:15:12 AM EDT
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LMT, DPMS, Mega,
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Posted: 8/14/2005 1:03:03 AM EDT
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Stag Arms. It IS THE BEST for the money. CMT is Stag...CMT makes RRA...
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Posted: 8/14/2005 1:13:22 AM EDT
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CMT makes some parts for RRA, but they arent one and the same |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 1:38:35 AM EDT
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Yeah your right, some parts as in recievers, bolts, bolt carriers...
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Posted: 8/14/2005 1:57:54 AM EDT
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Bushmaster Dissipator.
That's my suggestion and I'm sticking to it. |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 2:01:18 AM EDT
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get the RRA before your mind gets polluted by everyone here.....
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Posted: 8/14/2005 2:11:59 AM EDT
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Romeo,
Which RRA? |
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Posted: 8/14/2005 5:08:00 AM EDT
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I have both RRA and Bushy ARs. I cannot tell a difference in reliability. My RRA is more accurate. The barrel stays heavy under the handguards right up to the gas block. The upper and lower are more snug on the RRA. I just have the CAR A4 version RRA.
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Posted: 8/14/2005 6:58:45 AM EDT
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I would say Stag and RRA are a tie for the best value.
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Posted: 8/14/2005 7:08:12 AM EDT
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not much in experience with ARs so forgive me if this questions seems out of wack. Wouldnt that be taking a chance with compatibility?? |
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