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Posted: 4/11/2014 9:19:34 AM EDT


It used a ammo belt can in a frame as a back pack and it uses a chute to guide the ammo belt from the can to the Patented "Cartridge feeding mechanism" in the AR-10,the note mentions it in use with a AR-15,was there a early AR-15 adapted to use the same "Cartridge feeding mechanism"?

There was some mentioning that armalite worked with Armament Components Inc. of Santa Ana,to develop a ammunition container,to use as a back pack or as a fixed container,to feed a AR-10 using a flexible chute,possible not from a belt but with a spring assembly,possible just a prototype.

Is there more information on it?

Thank you.
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 10:06:14 AM EDT
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Armament Components Inc "Article handling system for cartridge feeding",the mechenism intended the ArmaLite AR-10 was based in this one.


Link Posted: 4/11/2014 10:18:36 AM EDT
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The motor operated rotating spring moves the individual ammo out of the box container and guides it in the chute to the rifle receiver,this eleminates the need for a ammo belt so the receiver does not need to be changed and it can load directly in to the magazine port,this probably did not work so ArmaLite developed the "Cartridge feeding mechanism",it used a normal ammo belt but it eliminated the need for a motor operated back pack unit (as this is unpractical),and it could fed from a chute connected to a back pack ammo container.
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 10:22:28 AM EDT
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Kinda sounds like they were trying to make a minigun out of the rifle...  If it had worked, I wonder what the development of the barrel would have been.





BTW, if it had worked, I bet moving the rifle about with that chute would have been a real PIA.


Link Posted: 4/11/2014 12:05:54 PM EDT
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Still being made and used to this day:

5.56x45 version with soft flexible chute


7.62x51 version
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 2:58:46 PM EDT
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Here is a rarely seen photo.

Link Posted: 4/11/2014 3:00:44 PM EDT
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If that would only work with my AR15...
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 1:10:57 AM EDT
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Here is a rarely seen photo.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/x2je2q.jpg
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Is it Dutch?

Thank you for posting the photo.
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 5:41:17 AM EDT
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Thanks for the pics armerio.  When I look at these pics I can't help but think "Neva bin dun befo".
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 7:14:04 AM EDT
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Is it Dutch?
Thank you for posting the photo.
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Here is a rarely seen photo.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/x2je2q.jpg

Is it Dutch?
Thank you for posting the photo.


The belt fed AR10's had the gas tube on top, just like all the Dutch AR10's.  However, many of the
belt fed's had a Hollywood lower, so it is not possible to determine if that rifle is Dutch or Cali.    
But the upper is Dutch.


Look at this photo, second rifle from the bottom is probably the exact same on in the photo.
[This one has HG's that are unique].  It is on a Hollywood lower.
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 7:57:57 AM EDT
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The AR10 setup in the top pic looks like half of the ammo was in the chute already. Always thought that was sort of a future concept at that time. Not fully developed for the AR10. But I am no expert on the subject.
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 8:39:49 AM EDT
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Howard Hughes originally invented those feed chutes to go in the B-17. The ammo capability on the 50's was nine yards long - thus 'Give 'em the whole nine yards'.
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 9:53:29 AM EDT
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the note mentions it in use with a AR-15,was there a early AR-15 adapted to use the same "Cartridge feeding mechanism"?
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Colt produced AR-15s with the same type of belt feed mechanism, and Ciener made 20 or so copies in the 1980s, and Valkyrie Armament and SlideFire are producing them new right now.

Colt version: (XM16M2HB)


Ciener version:


SlideFire version:


Valkyrie version:


The design and model numbers suggest that the Valkyrie and SlideFire versions are the same - either one bought out the other, or it's made by Valkyrie and branded for SlideFire or something of that nature.
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 9:55:09 AM EDT
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The same way that Armament Components Inc made a back pack prototype,was this one in the image made by ArmaLite or by a diferent company?

By "is this Dutch" what i mean is if the photo was taken at ArmaLite or in Holland?...By the AR-10 LMG it was probably taken at ArmaLite but what is the maker of the pack,there is a stiker over the rear of the back pack unit...
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