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Thank you for posting.
I always enjoy your detailed post I like the extra wind probe accessory. |
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Thanks Molon.
I need to find my chrono data for the ADI. I found it to be as accurate as the Federal GMM factory load, but slightly slower. It wasn't much. The box you posted is some of the older stuff I picked up. They changed packaging 2 more times since then. Don't be surprised if you get comparison requests between the oldest/mid/newest version (see: IMI brown vs green box). |
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As usual a much appreciated contributor to the collective knowledge of this site.
Thanks yet again. |
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Great to know.
I have a couple cases of that ammo I got on a BOGO deal. Haven’t got around to shooting any yet. Looking forward to it. |
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I believe this is currently being sold as ADI World Class ammo, rather than Australian Outback.
https://globalordnance.com/adi-world-class-223-rem-69-grain-sierra-matchking-200-round-case-upc-9332153003296/ If I am mistaken please feel free to correct me. |
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Quoted: I believe this is currently being sold as ADI World Class ammo, rather than Australian Outback. https://globalordnance.com/adi-world-class-223-rem-69-grain-sierra-matchking-200-round-case-upc-9332153003296/ If I am mistaken please feel free to correct me. View Quote That is the Outback in the newest packaging and labels. I started shooting this stuff when the boxes looked like in the OP and now the latest blue ADI boxes. It seems to shoot the same. The 55gr Blitzking load (same packaging) shoots a little better for me. |
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Quoted: I believe this is currently being sold as ADI World Class ammo, rather than Australian Outback. https://globalordnance.com/adi-world-class-223-rem-69-grain-sierra-matchking-200-round-case-upc-9332153003296/ If I am mistaken please feel free to correct me. View Quote It's .89/round now?!?! |
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Quoted: Quoted: I believe this is currently being sold as ADI World Class ammo, rather than Australian Outback. https://globalordnance.com/adi-world-class-223-rem-69-grain-sierra-matchking-200-round-case-upc-9332153003296/ If I am mistaken please feel free to correct me. It's .89/round now?!?! I got the ADI 55gr for $.50/rd a few months back. Haven’t had a chance to test it yet. |
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Great thread. I have a few cases of these and haven't taken the small frame out to the range for precision lately. Good to know!
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Quoted: I got the ADI 55gr for $.50/rd a few months back. Haven’t had a chance to test it yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe this is currently being sold as ADI World Class ammo, rather than Australian Outback. https://globalordnance.com/adi-world-class-223-rem-69-grain-sierra-matchking-200-round-case-upc-9332153003296/ If I am mistaken please feel free to correct me. It's .89/round now?!?! I got the ADI 55gr for $.50/rd a few months back. Haven’t had a chance to test it yet. Their old 55gr bk round was very accurate. I bought a ton of the 69smk because I didn't reload and the Federal GMM 69gr was $1/rd. I could get a case of ADI 69gr smk for half the price. Hell I could make some money off the stash I got now |
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I also took advantage of the old BOGO deals from Global Ord. a few years ago. I'm still buying this ADI ammo at current prices because it's so damn accurate.
SGAmmo has a sale on the ADI 69gr load as we speak. I believe it's $159 for a 200 round case (regularly $189 I believe). I ordered 2 for the free shipping. Not as good as the BOGO but the best I've seen in a while. |
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Quoted: I also took advantage of the old BOGO deals from Global Ord. a few years ago. I'm still buying this ADI ammo at current prices because it's so damn accurate. SGAmmo has a sale on the ADI 69gr load as we speak. I believe it's $159 for a 200 round case (regularly $189 I believe). I ordered 2 for the free shipping. Not as good as the BOGO but the best I've seen in a while. View Quote Thanks Itchy-Finger for the heads up. I ordered a couple of 200 rounders lots of ADI for my self + some S&B 380 blammo ammo for the wifey. |
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Great Info.
As always Thank You, Molon for all of your data driven and meaningful contributions to this site. One mans Facts... always comes to mind. |
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The SMK line of bullets is an outstanding achievement. I don’t think there’s ever been a bullet that can be made to shoot so accurately so easily (I.e., it’s not hard to tune).
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Quoted: Yup. The new ADI in the blue box isn’t quite as good, at least not the lots I’ve tested. The new version is more prone to fliers. It’s still SubMOA capable, but the old/mid stuff was sub half moa capable (5x5groups). The BTO measurements among all 3 versions are in the same range, so I’m curious if it was due to a change in one of the components or QC practices with the rebranding to ADI. It may be worthwhile to tear down a few rounds. As always, thanks for posting Molon. Always good to see results and data. Mid/New packaging https://i.imgur.com/6x3TqvE.jpg View Quote This is very interesting to me. Lately the ADI 69gr was not shooting as good as before and I've been shooting their 55gr Blitzking loads exclusively. I assumed it was me since the Blitzking always shot a little better and I suck. But I havnt shot a sub MOA 5 shot group with the 69ADI for a long time while the 55 Blitzking still holds MOA with the occasional .50 group. Most of my ADI stash is the older packaging with "Australian Outback" in the 2 tone tan boxes. I will dig some up and compare some old and new lots. EVERY factory ammo that I fall in love with eventually change the formula and turns to shit. I hope that's not the case with ADI but they are on the same supply chain as the rest of the industry and powders, primers, cases change, machines get worn...eventually the accountants realize that they can make a penny more by doing something cheaper. |
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I'm using a TV for monitor, so it is difficult for me to tell, but is the powder dark gray or is it a greenish-beige color?
The only dark ADI powder I know is 8208, which is also used in ADI 55 grain and 62 grain 5.56 military ammunition. 55 grains would be 7 grains down from 62 grains and 69 grains would be 7 grains up from 62 grains. The military ammo uses 8208 powder that is not dyed dark, but is the same powder. The powder was developed specifically for NATO spec 5.56 ammo and later used in 55 grain military ammo for export. All of the other ADI powders I've seen that are close in burning rate have been very light in color, as commercial 8208 powder is dyed dark gray at the request of Hodgdon, to more closely resemble traditional IMR powders in color. |
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Thank you Molon, for your continuing reports on the rounds and their accuracy. You are a blessing to this forum!
I have some of this Aussie 55 grain, and I can get 1/2" groups at 50 yards if I pull the trigger correctly thru a 16 power Vortex scope. Thinking about a scope upgrade, to a more magnification power. Will probably stay with Vortex unless there is something in my price around around 500.00, up to 20 power. Any suggestions? The gun might be a groundhog gun if I can ever find them! |
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Quoted: Thank you Molon, for your continuing reports on the rounds and their accuracy. You are a blessing to this forum! I have some of this Aussie 55 grain, and I can get 1/2" groups at 50 yards if I pull the trigger correctly thru a 16 power Vortex scope. Thinking about a scope upgrade, to a more magnification power. Will probably stay with Vortex unless there is something in my price around around 500.00, up to 20 power. Any suggestions? The gun might be a groundhog gun if I can ever find them! View Quote More magnification at 50 yds isn't going to tighten your groups, esp if you're already at 16x |
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Quoted: Why not? I'll be able to see the target better! View Quote No not really. @16 power looking at a target 50 yards away is equivalent to looking at the same target 3.1 yds away with your naked eye. At 20 power your now moved the target optically to 2.5 yds. So a 25% increase in zoom range yields you only .5 yds (18 inches) of apparent visual closeness I doubt you could tell the much difference between a target that's 3 yds away verses one that's 2.5 yds away. They both will look huge through a scope. Stretch out to 500 yds now a 16X scope will make a target appear to be 31.3 yds (ignoring mirage, dust, rain, snow, type factors) away and a 20x scope will bring it down to appear to be only 25 yds away. See you gained a whole 6.3 yds of visual acuity. That might be of some marginal help. But @ 50 yds nope. If your rifle is that accurate to make a difference, between 16x and 20x you should be shooting 50 yd Benchrest with a heavy 22lr Bolt action and not an AR15. |
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labloverva - IMHO optical quality and, to a lesser extent, the reticle design trump magnification. Much rather have a scope with 16x as a top end, but really good glass, than a 25x with shitty glass.
I'd also try moving back to 100 yards and shooting at as small a target as possible. I have a bunch of 3" black "shoot and see" sticky targets and find my smallest groups are usually when I ditch the 3" target and use the small 1/2" dots that come with the targets (to cover up prior hits). That's shooting at 100. There is much truth in the adage "aim small, miss small". Honestly if you've got decent eyesight 16x should be more than enough magnification at 100 yards, much less 50. |
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During the Trump era It was buy one get one free. Box or case.
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Thanks OP for the testing info. Those ADI Blitzkings are the best factory loads in terms of accuracy and price.
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Quoted: This is very interesting to me. Lately the ADI 69gr was not shooting as good as before and I've been shooting their 55gr Blitzking loads exclusively. I assumed it was me since the Blitzking always shot a little better and I suck. But I havnt shot a sub MOA 5 shot group with the 69ADI for a long time while the 55 Blitzking still holds MOA with the occasional .50 group. Most of my ADI stash is the older packaging with "Australian Outback" in the 2 tone tan boxes. I will dig some up and compare some old and new lots. EVERY factory ammo that I fall in love with eventually change the formula and turns to shit. I hope that's not the case with ADI but they are on the same supply chain as the rest of the industry and powders, primers, cases change, machines get worn...eventually the accountants realize that they can make a penny more by doing something cheaper. View Quote I went and dug up some older ADI Australian Outback marked tan/blue boxes (lot 2024) and some newest packaged 69gr loads (lot 2083). They both shot the same averaging around 1MOA for me. So it's most likely me rather than any actual changes in the ammo. The 55gr Blitzking version shoots a little better, averaging maybe .75-.80 MOA (5 shot groups). |
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