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Posted: 10/12/2023 5:33:48 PM EST
[#1]
price is now 57cpr
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Posted: 10/12/2023 5:44:15 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: price is now 57cpr Still not a bad price.. it's only $.50 more a box. Hopefully that stays the final price. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 10:13:30 AM EST
[#3]
Grabbed a case yesterday and it was 10.99 per 20.
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Posted: 10/15/2023 9:14:38 AM EST
[#4]
I loaded up with more so I have some to practice with and use at Heartland next year.
It seems to be a little more accurate in both my rifle than the X-Tac 77g |
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Posted: 10/17/2023 5:12:33 PM EST
[#5]
And now up to 60 cents per round....
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IN, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2023 5:45:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: JAG05]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tug153: And now up to 60 cents per round.... Was going to buy 2k at $.55/rnd a few days ago, but didn’t have enough in stock, then $.57/rnd was ok when I was waiting for more stock, but not buying at $.60/rnd. They’re just raising the price based on the sudden spike of the Winchester news/scare on M193/M855. $.05/rnd raise in 4 days is ridiculous. Back out of stock now a few minutes after the email. And .308 150gr FMJ price has gone up $.08 since 1.5 weeks ago. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2023 5:55:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: with a slight discount or free shipping.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Yo PSA we need 500rd and 1K rd options to purchase to make it easy  Nah. We’ll just raise the price and not offer 1,000 round lot# option… |
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Posted: 10/17/2023 5:57:47 PM EST
[#8]
You guys are funny. It's like you forgot what 2020-2021 was like.
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Posted: 10/17/2023 6:17:33 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: You guys are funny. It's like you forgot what 2020-2021 was like. Nope, been stacking it deep, but was hoping to stack it deeper as fund would allow. |
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Posted: 10/17/2023 6:35:41 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG05: They’re just raising the price based on the sudden spike of the Winchester news/scare on M193/M855. $.05/rnd raise in 4 days is ridiculous. Back out of stock now a few minutes after the email. If they keep going out of stock, it means the price increase isn't ridiculous. |
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Posted: 10/19/2023 7:38:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: You guys are funny. It's like you forgot what 2020-2021 was like. In 2020-2021 people were flush in stimulus, ppp loans, cash out refi and heloc dollars. None of that applies now and credit card debt is at an all time high. |
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Posted: 10/19/2023 7:42:09 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG05: Was going to buy 2k at $.55/rnd a few days ago, but didn’t have enough in stock, then $.57/rnd was ok when I was waiting for more stock, but not buying at $.60/rnd. They’re just raising the price based on the sudden spike of the Winchester news/scare on M193/M855. $.05/rnd raise in 4 days is ridiculous. Back out of stock now a few minutes after the email. And .308 150gr FMJ price has gone up $.08 since 1.5 weeks ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG05: Originally Posted By Tug153: And now up to 60 cents per round.... Was going to buy 2k at $.55/rnd a few days ago, but didn’t have enough in stock, then $.57/rnd was ok when I was waiting for more stock, but not buying at $.60/rnd. They’re just raising the price based on the sudden spike of the Winchester news/scare on M193/M855. $.05/rnd raise in 4 days is ridiculous. Back out of stock now a few minutes after the email. And .308 150gr FMJ price has gone up $.08 since 1.5 weeks ago. Still not a bad deal at 0.60rd. But I agree. In the past I’ve seen their stock availability going in and out like that daily on newly released firearms as well (the spiker comes to mind). |
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Posted: 11/6/2023 8:50:59 PM EST
[#13]
Any idea when PSA will get more of the TMK in?
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Posted: 11/7/2023 12:25:57 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG05: Was going to buy 2k at $.55/rnd a few days ago, but didn’t have enough in stock, then $.57/rnd was ok when I was waiting for more stock, but not buying at $.60/rnd. They’re just raising the price based on the sudden spike of the Winchester news/scare on M193/M855. $.05/rnd raise in 4 days is ridiculous. Back out of stock now a few minutes after the email. And .308 150gr FMJ price has gone up $.08 since 1.5 weeks ago. @JAG05 is there a place to get 77g OTM for a cheaper price? |
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Posted: 11/7/2023 3:17:48 PM EST
[#15]
Back in stock at 62cpr
https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-otm-20rd-box-ammunition.html |
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Posted: 11/28/2023 7:21:53 PM EST
[#16]
How is the terminal performance with this? Looking for a deer round. I had the TMK on my mind, but it’s rarely in stock.
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Posted: 11/30/2023 12:01:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20229mm: How is the terminal performance with this? Looking for a deer round. I had the TMK on my mind, but it’s rarely in stock. Do you load? |
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Posted: 11/30/2023 12:08:58 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Do you load? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By 20229mm: How is the terminal performance with this? Looking for a deer round. I had the TMK on my mind, but it’s rarely in stock. Do you load? Nope. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2023 3:02:01 PM EST
[#19]
What is the ballistic coefficient of this projectile?
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Posted: 12/8/2023 3:04:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theblakester: What is the ballistic coefficient of this projectile? .362 g1 |
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Posted: 12/9/2023 9:13:36 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20229mm: How is the terminal performance with this? Looking for a deer round. I had the TMK on my mind, but it’s rarely in stock. TMKs are the gnarliest .223 bullet in town. |
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Posted: 12/10/2023 1:46:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: TMKs are the gnarliest .223 bullet in town. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: Originally Posted By 20229mm: How is the terminal performance with this? Looking for a deer round. I had the TMK on my mind, but it’s rarely in stock. TMKs are the gnarliest .223 bullet in town. After I saw the rokslide post that showed moser and bear taken by a 223, I was sold on them as my hunting round |
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Posted: 12/11/2023 12:35:06 PM EST
[#23]
Quick video I did. Nothing terribly scientific but just one person's review. Not Molon lvl of testing.
Still think the ammo is a hell of a good deal but feel like if PSA could refine a few things like how the rounds are shipped in the box and possibly try to control some of the inconsistencies in the loads.  AAC Ammo Review |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2023 6:24:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Whiskey1Alpha]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: .362 g1 Mine trued was 10% less than posted at .325. Trued the BC out to 750 and it tracked in a 18" Crane chamber Mk12Mod1. My only question for this round after the testing I've done is has anyone/can anyone do a ballistics test of the AAC OTM round and compare it to 77g Razorcore and MK262Mod1 'brown box'. If the price stays around .60 and it shoots like it does for me, this is a clear replacement for IMI and chasing down 262 as long as the terminal ballistics aren't the weak link. Who do we need to send a few boxes to? |
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Posted: 12/13/2023 8:13:54 PM EST
[#25]
Are people seeing a clear reason to pay 18¢/rd more for the AAC SMK over the AAC OTM?
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Posted: 12/13/2023 9:07:34 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007: Are people seeing a clear reason to pay 18¢/rd more for the AAC SMK over the AAC OTM? the AAC OTM is good enough to go 5 for 5 on an IPSC at 1013 with a 16" Super Duty. That's...good enough for what I use the ammo for. I'm still waiting to see terminal performance tests but where I live there isn't a reason to care much about the terminal performance of a 77 grain .223 bullet. Here either .223 is too small, 77 gr. is too heavy, or I'm using 55 gr. because I'm at distances where the velocity does all the work. |
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Posted: 12/13/2023 9:09:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: brasscrossedrifles]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whiskey1Alpha: Mine trued was 10% less than posted at .325. Trued the BC out to 750 and it tracked in a 18" Crane chamber Mk12Mod1. My only question for this round after the testing I've done is has anyone/can anyone do a ballistics test of the AAC OTM round and compare it to 77g Razorcore and MK262Mod1 'brown box'. If the price stays around .60 and it shoots like it does for me, this is a clear replacement for IMI and chasing down 262 as long as the terminal ballistics aren't the weak link. Who do we need to send a few boxes to? .362 and the velocity from my magnetospeed got me on for elevation at 1013. My windage was off by half a mil for my first couple of rounds but I've had wind calls be off by 2 mils at ~650 at that range, so thats well within the error of my ability to figure out the wind there (Bill's place is a great place to shoot. Frustrating, but fun) I'm somewhat interested in Paul Harrel doing his meat target test with it but not enough to pay for it. |
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Posted: 12/13/2023 9:58:14 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: the AAC OTM is good enough to go 5 for 5 on an IPSC at 1013 with a 16" Super Duty. That's...good enough for what I use the ammo for. I'm still waiting to see terminal performance tests but where I live there isn't a reason to care much about the terminal performance of a 77 grain .223 bullet. Here either .223 is too small, 77 gr. is too heavy, or I'm using 55 gr. because I'm at distances where the velocity does all the work.  Wishing there was a similar thread about the 75 gr OTM, as that’s what I want to use for SD. I bought some 77 gr of both flavors to try out. |
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Posted: 12/13/2023 10:10:33 PM EST
[#29]
Has anyone done a gel test on the 77gr otm’s?
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Posted: 12/13/2023 11:38:03 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Has anyone done a gel test on the 77gr otm’s? I think @StaccatoC2 did. |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 8:18:30 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: I think @StaccatoC2 did. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Has anyone done a gel test on the 77gr otm’s? I think @StaccatoC2 did. Curious to see how they performed. |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 9:28:07 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Curious to see how they performed. Here is my thread, its in the archives now. Please remember the gel was shot to crap, remelted and reused so the results may not be 100% repeatable or accurate to the real world, its just a base line. @duck_hunt https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/PSA-77-grain-otm-gel-shot/16-780389/ |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 9:36:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: Duck_Hunt]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StaccatoC2: Here is my thread, its in the archives now. Please remember the gel was shot to crap, remelted and reused so the results may not be 100% repeatable or accurate to the real world, its just a base line. @duck_hunt https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/PSA-77-grain-otm-gel-shot/16-780389/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StaccatoC2: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Curious to see how they performed. Here is my thread, its in the archives now. Please remember the gel was shot to crap, remelted and reused so the results may not be 100% repeatable or accurate to the real world, its just a base line. @duck_hunt https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/PSA-77-grain-otm-gel-shot/16-780389/ Thank you sir! Next year I’m going to use it for deer season to see how it does. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 3:48:05 PM EST
[#34]
Well, just ordered 1K to try out. Figure at least one of my rifles should like it. At the very least it's only $150 more than a case of 193 so It won't hurt too bad if it ends up just being blasting ammo.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2023 12:22:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: Whiskey1Alpha]
[#35]
Is there anyone that does/could do an apples to apples side comparison on gel for the AAC OTM, Mk262 and even IMI 77g?
Really liking the OTM round and would never have thought it would stand up, but out of my Mk12Mod1 and ModH, they shoot just as well as IMI and brown box. The only thing holding me back from basically switching 100% over, is the lack of terminal ballistic data. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2023 11:17:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: Theblakester]
[#36]
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2024 2:26:20 PM EST
[#37]
I'm trying these out, but know this style of bullet isn't the best at expanding in soft targets, tho they are made like a varmint bullet the tip is the problem, so I'll be testing out removing the thin HP tip down to the lead slug inside, yes this will lower the B.C. some, but this is a test to see if they are still as accurate as the original and how much better will it expand (water jugs is all I have)
11.5 inch 1/7 twist. 50 yards for now, would be best to test accuracy at a longer range but again it's all I have for now. I have pics but no external means to link from here if someone wouldn't ming me sending them and they put them up. I reseat them even at the cannelure (some at slightly different) measuring from base to cannelure and get that even on all, then trim down to 2.07 OAL, clean it up and chamfer the inside a bit. Looks mean lol. Should make for a better Home Defense and possibly out to 100 yards. We'll see. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 12:49:15 PM EST
[#38]
PSA one day sale on the OTM for 55cpr.
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Posted: 2/24/2024 2:03:42 PM EST
[#39]
Shame the tax and shipping out it to $.61 a round but got another 500
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:45:00 PM EST
[#40]
Well, I ordered several hundred more rounds. I really like this ammo.
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Posted: 2/26/2024 10:26:15 AM EST
[#41]
It came back in stick yesterday at .55 so I bought some more. It seems to do nice
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Posted: 2/26/2024 10:40:12 PM EST
[#42]
I bought another 200 rounds.
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Posted: 2/27/2024 6:30:22 AM EST
[#43]
I bought a bunch of the 75's to try
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Posted: 3/1/2024 2:08:14 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: Some guys I shoot long with all went in on a group buy. I guess you could say we like it. But after shooting it tonight between two different rifles I have some concerns. My 18 inch Odin works barrel with less than 4-500 on it had crazy deviation. It’s the top set of numbers in the picture I’ll post. The second string is from a centurion arms 16 inch CHF barrel with 4-5k rounds and never been cleaned. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/245997/42CCB59B-81F6-4B34-9786-53B8B3CEC89C_jpe-2889726.JPG Obligatory hoarding pic. Everything is double stacked except for the right two columns https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/245997/B9CBF015-C973-4EAA-98AF-DE1F2E78403D_jpe-2889727.JPG Using a tool cabinet for the ammo is genious and I like that idea, idk why I never even thought of that but now I know its an option. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:39:21 PM EST
[#45]
Out to 600yds with the AAC 77gr SMK
 MK12 Mod 0 to 600 Yards |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 11:34:49 AM EST
[#46]
Is the jury out on this stuff? GTG?
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Posted: 3/11/2024 11:55:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Is the jury out on this stuff? GTG? |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 2:43:59 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: I'd say for the price these are definitely good to go. If you wanted to squeeze every bit of accuracy out of an OTM round, you'd get Black Hills or Federal Gold Metal Match but you'd pay way more money. Are they still showing up damaged? |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 2:49:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Duck_Hunt]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Are they still showing up damaged? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Originally Posted By metalsaber: I'd say for the price these are definitely good to go. If you wanted to squeeze every bit of accuracy out of an OTM round, you'd get Black Hills or Federal Gold Metal Match but you'd pay way more money. Are they still showing up damaged? I’ve bought 1200 over the last few months. Of the 100 or so I’ve shot I saw one case that had a very very minuscule pin head sized dent. It was actually hard to see. Haven’t had a chance to shoot lately since I’m getting some land timbered. I’ve only shot them in one rifle so far but in that rifle these aren’t as accurate as cbc, but they are still accurate. I hope to test them against imi as well in this rifle and the others that I shoot 77’s in. Just for poi shift and accuracy. I like the aac 77gr otms. They are a good value, plenty accurate and great for range ammo. I’m even going to deer hunt with them this year. These keep me out of my cbc and imi stash. It’s sobering to think I bought many many cases of double sealed cbc for .50rd and it wasn’t really all that long ago. As well as the midway blow out imi which iirc was around .50rd. Now it is what it is |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 3:51:14 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Are they still showing up damaged? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Originally Posted By metalsaber: I'd say for the price these are definitely good to go. If you wanted to squeeze every bit of accuracy out of an OTM round, you'd get Black Hills or Federal Gold Metal Match but you'd pay way more money. Are they still showing up damaged? |
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