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Posted: 10/26/2004 12:15:41 PM EST

Any reasonably low priced new 20” 1/7” twist barrels available? I can't find any other than $395 for pure bred Colts at SAW. Anybody know of any for sale, say at $200 and up?

Does LMT make standard 20" barrels or only for the MRP?

Link Posted: 10/26/2004 12:55:02 PM EST
Bushmaster, but the 1/7 runs are not always available.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 1:15:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:09:24 PM EST
Pick up the phone and call:

www.eaglefirearms.net

Ask about their Bushmaster barrels...
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:36:06 PM EST
SAW has 20" Chromed Colt Barrels, 1-7 twist under the specials section for $250. The FSB doesn't have a bayonet lug, and even though it says "compensator", it is a flash suppressor. It is threaded on though.

I picked up a couple of these for my first two builds, nice stuff.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 4:49:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2004 4:50:45 PM EST by cgv69]
You have three options...

Colt - Heavy price tag and usually no bayo lug if that matter to you.
Bushmaster - You may have to wait but you can usually find one someplace. Eagle Firearms is a good place to check with first
FN - Fulton Armory sometimes has them. You will need to call to find out.
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:15:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2004 5:29:38 PM EST
Numrich had new old stock Colt 1/7 HBARs "stripped" @ $180. Roll marked "C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR". No FSB is included at all, but SPR builders don't use the oem style anyway. Muzzle is threaded, chamber/bore are chrome lined so cutting it down may not be a good idea. I have my 2nd one on order, I will get it turned down to "govt. profile". HTH.

Paladin

Link Posted: 10/26/2004 6:13:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
Numrich had new old stock Colt 1/7 HBARs "stripped" @ $180. Roll marked "C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR". No FSB is included at all, but SPR builders don't use the oem style anyway... I have my 2nd one on order, I will get it turned down to "govt. profile".



No FSB, but these are already drilled for the gas port, right?
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:01:13 AM EST
Yes, the gas port is already drilled.

You will also need to provide your own barrel nut, but as most builders will use a free float tube that was not a consideration to me.

Paladin
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:03:36 AM EST
bushy
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 5:08:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
Yes, the gas port is already drilled.



I'm becoming more and more intrigued by these barrels. How's the service from Numrich? Are they quick to ship out?
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:45:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By Robert2011:
$395 for pure bred Colts



Give me a break.... that is completely ridiculous
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:06:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By LarryLove:

Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
Yes, the gas port is already drilled.



I'm becoming more and more intrigued by these barrels. How's the service from Numrich? Are they quick to ship out?



I ordered my SECOND one('cause I'm greedy!) before mentioning them here yesterday. This am they confirmed my order, and this pm they sent a UPS tracking number. Is less than 24 hours from online order to shipping decent service?

Paladin
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:09:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
Numrich had new old stock Colt 1/7 HBARs "stripped" @ $180. Roll marked "C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR". No FSB is included at all, but SPR builders don't use the oem style anyway. Muzzle is threaded, chamber/bore are chrome lined so cutting it down may not be a good idea. I have my 2nd one on order, I will get it turned down to "govt. profile". HTH.

Paladin




For a SPR clone you want stainless, not chrome-lined, IIRC...
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:19:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
Numrich had new old stock Colt 1/7 HBARs "stripped" @ $180. Roll marked "C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR". No FSB is included at all, but SPR builders don't use the oem style anyway. Muzzle is threaded, chamber/bore are chrome lined so cutting it down may not be a good idea. I have my 2nd one on order, I will get it turned down to "govt. profile". HTH.

Paladin




For a SPR clone you want stainless, not chrome-lined, IIRC...



Usually, but the DMRs and such are moving towards this, and mounting the front sight on the rail.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:04:25 PM EST

I like the looks of these barrels Numrich sells. What kinds gas system do you put on them? I remember Forest said some types (pinned, screwed, or something?) might fall off under hard use, or some such. If I get one of these barrels what do I do next? Do I need an extra long rail too?

Thanks for all the responses. I'm still learning my way around in this new territory of AR building.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:16:13 PM EST

Under “Colt AR15 / AR15A2 Original 20" Heavy Barrel,” Numrich has 7 barrels listed at $180.20. Are they all the same? It’s a bit confusing.

Here they are:

197300A Colt AR15 - BARREL & HANDGUARD ASSEMBLY, AR15

197300B Colt AR15 SPORTER - BARREL & HANDGUARD ASSEMBLY

197300C Colt AR15-A1 - BARREL & HANDGUARD ASSEMBLY

197300D Colt AR15-A2 - BARREL & HANDGUARD ASSEMBLY

197300E Colt AR15-A2 FLAT TOP - BARREL & HANDGUARD ASSEMBLY

197300F Colt CAR15 - BARREL & HANDGUARD ASSEMBLY

197300G U.S. Military M16
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:21:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 2:55:46 PM EST by PALADIN-hgwt]
Agreed, "real"(?) SPR's use stainless barrels.

But some of us prefer CHROME lined.

Others might prefer a COLT barrel to the aftermarket ones.

And even a few of us may prefer RIFLE length barrels, to squeeze every fps from 5.56 NATO. 18 inches was a COMPROMISE, which the individual needs to decide about for himself.

The original question was NOT about SPR's. But $180 for a 20 inch, chromed lined Colt rifle barrel is not a bad price.
My first one shot sub-MOA @ 200 yards using a 2.75X Scout scope and Fed. GM 69's. Another Colt chromed lined barrel that shoots quite well was a 1/12 Med. wt. from Fulton, doing 5 shots INSIDE 1.25 inches at 200 yards with Win 45 jhp's. Arguments about terminal ballistics are irrelevant when you can PICK WHICH EYE SOCKET to punch a hole in...

Paladin

ETA: p/n 197300A is what I have been ordering.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 3:30:26 PM EST
Paladin, one more question. Can you confirm these barrels are brand new? Any chance at all they're used but re-finished? Thanks for your help...
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 5:30:58 PM EST

One 197300A on order now.

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:22:09 PM EST
And another 197300A right here...
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 5:21:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2004 5:21:46 PM EST by LarryLove]
Well, my barrel arrived. Service and shipping was very fast, shipping was $7.95.

Markings: C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR. Barrel appears to be new and unissued, with a few light scuff marks from storage. Chrome-lined from chamber to muzzle, wrapper date is 6/91. No FSB as advertised, and an unexpected bonus for me was finding that no FSB holes were ever drilled in these barrels. Nice! I assumed that they once had FSBs installed but were removed for some reason - I was wrong.

Lack of a FSB and barrel nut may be a problem for some people, but if you're building a floated, scoped rifle these barrels are a great choice. You know you were going to float your barrel and stick a flip-up front sight on it anyway.

I have absolutely no need for any more of these but this barrel is so nice I have the urge to buy more.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 6:24:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2004 6:27:05 PM EST by PALADIN-hgwt]
Now you know why I ordered the second one, due next Wed! I plan to have it turned down under the handguards to govt. profile. No telling when those barrels will run out...

Paladin
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 2:08:20 PM EST
I believe CMMG has 1/7 20" chrome lined. Their pricers and quality are good.
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 2:15:04 PM EST
OOPS! I was wrong. They have just about everything else but 20". SORRY.
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 4:59:43 PM EST
I had been in contact with John(?) twice about those 20 inch 1/7's. Apparently they never showed up, prompting me to go with these HBARs from Numrich. The 16 inch 1/7 M4 barrel from CMMG was great, I sure wished they had come thru with the 20's...

Paladin
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