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Posted: 11/23/2005 8:49:15 AM EDT
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For LE work and rugged type scenerios, we went through a few O2000 and J-Points early on during hard bumps with walls and other things!  We finally went to Doctor Optics and these are the best rugged machined aluminum sight out there! They also use MUCH better glass for a clearer sight picture as well. The newer J-Point has an aluminum winged protector that should help with the bumps in the night if you still choose the JP.Here is a shot of a J-Point and the protector shroud.  Pic of the Doc Op atop an ARMS.  Also, no need to get the Mil-Spec version of the Doc-Op. MUCH too pricey unless you're thinking of submerging the units under water. Some have said the Mil-Spec version is brighter, but I have both and see no difference. Also, either set up atop the scope or off to the side rail system from Larue work well. With Magpuls new PRS, I find my cheek-weld holds well with the new adj. cheek piece and I find it a bit more natural to just raise my head a bit to negotiate the dot. Hope this helps! Vic |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 1:24:45 PM EDT
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Wow, good info, and it does help a bunch.
I'd like to know where you'd recommend purchasing the Doc-Opt from. I need to do some research on these units too. Back to the JPoint sights for a moment, what 'brightness' option would you recommend? They offer a 4MOA that is recommended for ranges, or night work, but is OK for most all conditions. The other one is an 8MOA for daylight work, but OK for night time with some washout... Robert |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 1:39:12 PM EDT
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Vic,
One more thing... you said: "With Magpuls new PRS, I find my cheek-weld holds well with the new adj. cheek piece..." I've been waiting for these to come out; where'd you get one?? Must be one of the lucky beta-testers eh? Robert |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 2:56:59 PM EDT
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Depending on what ranges you're operating at, (with the doc op) my engagements are within 25 yards and I've only used the 4moa version. This is my "ah sh#t" sight and ONLY used for that in my realm of activities. As for NV work with the doc-op, way too bright in my book to used with an NVD. Also, Arizona Gun Runners is a great source for Doc Optics. www.arizonagunrunners.com/ The Magpul PRS should be out VERY soon I'm told (actually by the end of this month) I will be carrying these. so drop me a line if you like. I have been testing the stock out for awhile now. It's a GREAT addition for night ops work! Hope this helps. Vic |
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Posted: 11/25/2005 7:01:19 PM EDT
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As Floydsflock pointed out, this topic has been discussed under a number of different headings, in a number of different locations, to continue,
What are some of the options out there for “Miniature Red Dot Sights” that can be mounted in combination with a scope as a backup sight? So far we have identified: ATN Ultra Sight Digital Compact http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/captrichardson/ARScopeSight.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/captrichardson/ScopeSightSide.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/captrichardson/ScopeSightTopReticle.jpg Docter JPoint Are there any other options out there that anyone else knows about? If you are currently using one of these “Miniature Red Dot Sights”, or another, please share your experiences: Which one do you have? How did you mount it? How has the durability/reliability been? Any other input that you think will be beneficial? I think the idea of adding these “Miniature Red Dot Sights” as a backup to your “Primary Optics” is a great idea, unfortunately I think they are under used and there is not enough info out there on them, especially when compared to many of the other optic options out there. A lot of good info has been brought out so far, hopefully there will be more to come. Thanks in advance, “Capt Richardson” |
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Posted: 11/27/2005 7:47:59 AM EDT
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Here are some other topics that are also discussing the "Miniature Red Dots":
Docter Optics Sight Mounts for Regular ACOGS(not NSN) BUIS or JPoint ? Whats the red dot optic I see above an ACOG? If anyone has any additional input, experiences, questions, please jump in. Thanks, "Capt Richardson" |
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Posted: 12/10/2005 11:16:46 AM EDT
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Updated the post under the AR Variants forum on the Red Dot and Mounting Options.
Scope Mounting for DPMS LR .308 Good Luck, "Capt Richardson" |
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Posted: 1/27/2006 8:25:07 PM EDT
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Tag for later.
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Posted: 1/27/2006 9:05:10 PM EDT
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tagging hoping somebody posts pics of the JPoint in various placements taken from the shooter point of view...
I don't like the amount of vertical projection, but the LaRue offset dealie might be the only way. |
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