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Posted: 12/14/2002 4:24:29 PM EST
Has anybody here actually handled or built up a rifle that uses a non-aluminum lower? I am seeing them advertised more and more (JoeKen Firearms, etc.) but have yet to hear any testimonials. If you have, I'd like to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 4:29:32 PM EST
Cav Arms makes a great one out of polymer. Hesse made a bad one before they went belly up. Pro Ord makes an AR like rifle that can be great if you are lucky, or can be a prepetual headache.
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 4:44:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/14/2002 5:02:10 PM EST by jtw2]
I love my Cav Arms. It' bright yellow and has a sticker that says "DeWalt" on the side. Nice and light. The pistol grip takes little getting used to as it's a bit different, but not that much. I would highly recommend picking one up. They're inexpensive as well. [img]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=411[/img]
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 3:03:15 AM EST
Is that a pre-ban or post-ban DeWalt sticker? Nice touch. Anyone else? -Hobbit
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 3:37:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2002 3:38:29 AM EST by WSAR15]
Carbon Fiber has been used extensively as a substitute to metal. I think it is a good material and would not be surprised to see further use in lowers. It makes them lighter as well. When did Hesse go belly up?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 3:57:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/15/2002 3:58:25 AM EST by AR15forfun]
>GLOCKshooter 12/14/2002 9:29:32 PM Cav Arms makes a great one out of polymer. Hesse made a bad one before they went belly up. <<< Glock, I have a Hesse Kevlar lower and know a few other folks that have them. How were they bad? How long did you have yours before it went "bad"? Do you have a URL on this, or was it from personal experience? I have not heard of one single failure of a Hesse Kevlar lower. Some here have said it was the ONLY thing that Hesse nade that was a quality product, because they did not actually make them. It was the easiest lower to build that I have ever assembled. Bob Edited to ad: That Cavarms "Dewalt" is very nice!
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 6:15:35 AM EST
Who made the Kevlar lowers for Hesse?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 6:48:15 AM EST
I'd like to know that myself as I built one too. It was probably one of the best builds I've ever done & would do it again.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 12:04:44 PM EST
No, I did not buy one because of the negative feeback from others I read when I was first considering trying to build an AR pistol, which has to come in under 50oz. As I do not have personal experience with it and you do, I will defer. Am I incorrect that Hesse went out of business also?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 12:31:25 PM EST
Glockshooter, I have heard the rumors as well. Shortly after the rumors started floating around I went to their website and they were selling off "excess" equipment. However, since I have not needed another lower, I haven't contacted them. I have a friend that has a few of the uppers for sale that are Kevlar. I haven't made that jump yet. Obviously there is more stress on the upper than the lower and I'm not comfortable with that just yet. [:)] Bob
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 5:46:44 AM EST
Olympic makes a lower out of titanium and DPMS sell a stainless steel lower as well.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 2:46:20 PM EST
I wouldn't be surprised if FN or Colt went that route. After all, H&K and others have.
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