Originally Posted By OldGuyNewAR:
"Unless the Dems. pass a Arsenal law, you can only own  1K of
any ammo. Well, we are all F*&^%$#@!!.  If you invest 10K in ammo, you are a felon."

ex post facto

Originally Posted By FlaDevmeister:
GOOD GOD IN HEAVEN, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

It's obviously the end of the world. President Obama (which was elected by a majority vote, I remind you) has his own opinions on the proliferation of firearms in this country. But he has his own opinion on a lot of things. Doesn't necesarilly mean he's going to pass a law to enforce his opinions on everybody else. I know he's made claims in the past about possible gun control but he's also got a right to change his mind about something and has been known to do just that......kinda like everyone posting on this site. I know I've changed my mind about things before. Let's also remember the guy went to Harvard and taught Constitutional Law. But I'm done ranting about how irrational it seems that we're going to wake up in the very near future and find that either guns and/or ammo is banned or taxed. There have been solutions discussed but there are a lot of people involved in the process of passing bills that have differing opinions on the subject. Not to mention the NRA and other organizations that are too powerful. There are a helluval lotta gun owners in this country that are Democrats and voted for Obama that also happen to have guns. I'm one of them. When you've got the majority of the country backing you there's not a whole lot one person can do to get a law passed.

Even better is all the posters here and elsewhere that are convinced the country's going to spin into civil war any day now. We've already done that. That's why the civil war is covered in school more a lot more than Vietnam or even WW II was. This country did that 150+ years ago and we are STILL reminded of the lessons we learned in doing so. And the Yugoslavians thought they were cool. Nope, we did it bigger and better than they ever did. Theirs was a minor border skirmish compared to what we did.

I'm anxious to see all the people that have recently stockpiled thousands upon thousands of rounds. One poster made a good point. Nobody actually shooting any of it. It makes you think every time you tap your finger in your AR and $0.75 comes out the end of your barrel. Screw that. I've got four mags loaded for mine and, other than that, I'm out. I have about 1,500 rounds of 5.45x39 (and most of that is sealed in a Spam can) that is used on the off chance of SHTF. I live in Florida and hurricanes are known to come through here. I know all too well what it's like to be out of power for a few days. So the SHTF is an actual possibility for me. I've got batteries, a radio, I stock up on canned food and water in the summer months, and I have enough ammo to make it as long as I need to. Let me emphasize I don't stock up on 6 months worth of canned food and water. Just enough to get me through several days. That's all that I'll be losing power and water. The probability of that is so remote I don't bother. Kinda like the possibility of us going into a civil war is so remote, I don't bother buying 20,000 rounds. The chances are so remote it's just no worth it. Another example is being hit by a meteor. I don't prepare for that either because it's too remote.

I'm looking forward to seeing all these doomsdayers lose their asses at some undetermined point in the future that are stocking it up now. The ones doing this (that is, the ones that actually have money) were the same people buying several houses to either flip them or invest in them. Then lost their asses in real estate. Same people that dumped their F-250's to buy a compact Toyota pick-up. I work as a credit analyst for GMAC and you wouldn't believe all the people dumping their full-size trucks and SUV's a year ago for something better on gas. I'm not kidding you, Chevy Cobalts were flying off the lots before the tires even cooled down. You want to blame somebody or offer consipiracy theories for outlandish ammo prices, the conspirators are the ones buying this stuff up. It means anybody buying stockpiles lately is comlicit and you all get what you deserve. Sooner or later, the bubble will burst in this market. It amazes me that people were saying the same thing about oil last year and real-estate the year before yet they can't make the connection here. Short-term amnesia. People said a year ago gas would be close to $10.00 a gallon by now. I paid $2.07 at the pump the other day. Down from $4.50 at about this time last year. People cut back on their gas consumption and, whadya know, oil prices fell and OPEC associates practically shit themselves.

I've got enough to get me by and shooting is one of my favorite hobbies. I'm gonna do what that other guy said: I'm gonna start biking or hitting nature walks or something. I'm not paying these hyper-inflated bullshit prices. I'm going to wait until the prices get realistic again and then I'll resume. The oil on my hardware won't even be dried by the time that happens. I think what the distributors is doing is horrible but this is the same system we fought and died for to ensure its continuance. Funny how people praise America when it works for them and then get bent when they're on the receiving end. You can't blame the distributors for raping you when you're opening you legs and inviting them. You've got noone to blame but yourselves.

Originally Posted By joseph_samuel:
price rant
just saw some mk262 and 8126n on the ee for a buck fiddy a round

Originally Posted By Submariner:


Doc, you are making wa-a-ay too much sense.  Clinton blocked importation of CHICOM ammo with an executive order. Bush I blocked the importation of "assault weapons" with an executive order.  Buck Ofama can do the same with ALL imported ammo if he chooses.

Then watch prices.

Buy it cheap (hahahaha) and stack it deep.

Originally Posted By JPenrod:
They are just waiting to see how they do in  the 2010 elections.

Poorly, maybe they will not have the power to mess with the 2nd Amendment.  Well,.... It will be a worse ban than we ever have seen to date.

I'll keep buying my cases of ammo thank you very much.

Originally Posted By Thru_and_Thru:
I must ask; IF stockpiling is done for personal use, this question does not apply, BUT - If you stockpile for defense (gubbamint, zombies, whoever) is there validity to thinking that should you succeed and survive to need ammo, there should be "Plenty of it on the ground"? If you defend your (self, family, compound, bunker, silo) from marauders and are successful, should you not then have donations from the vanquished? It seems like those who stockpile, have absolutely no limit to how much is enough. So, I'll ask, How much is enough? 1K per gun? per person?

Originally Posted By FlaDevmeister:

Not to mention the NRA and other organizations that are too powerful.

Originally Posted By Forrest_F150:


Do you even know how many NRA members there are roughly?  The last time I checked there were about 2 Million.  Do you think 2 Million votes, even if every single member actually voted, is going to make a difference?  My point is there are roughly 80 Million gun owners in America and only 2 Million registered NRA members?  I would not ASSUME anti-gun yahoos in Congress or in the White House are shaking in their boots because of the NRA.

Yeah.....................All you ammo horders quit buying all the ammo up, Wait till the prices drop !!!

Originally Posted By phoenix27:
Now I've seen everything. Natchez had Fed M193 ammo "on sale" for $750/1000 plus a stiff shipping fee. The world has definitely gone insane. They must be drinking the same Kool-Aide that S/G was drinking asking $800/1000 for Win M855 ammo a few weeks back. This is totally nuts! Thank the good Lord I don't need to buy any 5.56mm ammo right now and can just sit back and watch this circus from the sidelines.

Originally Posted By Heineken:

sencond this THIS IS REALY PISSING ME OFF...ok, nacheze...you know i have bought a lot off them in the past...but here is the thing...with the shit economy all the components, brass, lead, ect have all gone way down or stayed the same, which means the ammo makers are making the ammo for cheaper, and they are selling it to the distributers for the same price that they were selling it to them 8 months ago...so basicaly the distributers are marking it up way way way way more...
end of rant....

Originally Posted By MSARDave:
I was in the Gander Mountain in Erie Pennsylvania last night.  They had two boxes of Remington 165 grain 40 S&W, they were marked $59.99.  .

Originally Posted By Walsh:



It might take a few weeks now, but you can get Hornady 55 gr rounds and A2230 powder is not a problem at all to find as of 2 weeks ago. Primers do come in but you might have to wait 4-8 weeks. Reloading, that makes it the most $225/1000.

I've not reloaded any .223 yet (just getting a Dillion 550) but the cost of components is WAY under these price increases which means the sellers of ammo are gouging.

Walsh

Originally Posted By lvjeffro:
not to preach, but, we as consumers dictate what market value is. If we stop buying this product, price will come down.

Originally Posted By Ret_Puddle_Pirate:
It's interesting that, even through this forum, I often read "What ammo for SHTF" or "Stocking up" and you see a picture posted of a guy who has over 40,000 rounds.

I have, obviously, no problem with buying what you want, with the quantity that you want.

What's interesting to me is that "IF" you are storing up large quantities, how are you going to carry it if the SHTF?  

Originally Posted By stevemr2t:
Bargain of the century. ATG - the new CTD

Click me if you dare....