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Posted: 9/19/2023 10:36:57 PM EST
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Looks like their copy of the Vortex Spitfire AR, which is only useable on 16+ MOA targets in my experience.
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Posted: 9/20/2023 10:53:16 AM EST
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I had one when it first hit the market years ago (10 years perhaps?). Glass is decent. However, the huge flaw is that reticle. 1X is not conducive to BDC, especially a busy one. The reticle looked like a black blob (or red blob with illumination on) All of us 3 gunners dumped this unit after purchase. We tried to get Burris to reconfigure this reticle as it has potential, however, no one listened.
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Posted: 9/20/2023 1:06:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had one when it first hit the market years ago (10 years perhaps?). Glass is decent. However, the huge flaw is that reticle. 1X is not conducive to BDC, especially a busy one. The reticle looked like a black blob (or red blob with illumination on) All of us 3 gunners dumped this unit after purchase. We tried to get Burris to reconfigure this reticle as it has potential, however, no one listened. There is a reason for that fire sale price. My eyes wouldn't even make out the BDC markings. Mainly thinking of the green circle-dot portion for use on a house gun. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 8:06:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My eyes wouldn't even make out the BDC markings. Mainly thinking of the green circle-dot portion for use on a house gun. If that's the case, there are better choices out there OP. An example is the PA 1x SLx (which is what I'm running on my 9mm and 223 carbines) - https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slx-1x-microprism-with-green-illuminated-acss-cyclops-gen-2-reticle |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 9:01:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My eyes wouldn't even make out the BDC markings. Mainly thinking of the green circle-dot portion for use on a house gun. I would rather only the circle and dot were iluminated. That other stuff just muddies it up. It can be used with a magnifier tho, and then the BDC might have some value, but still wish it weren't lit up. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 9:37:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would rather only the circle and dot were iluminated. That other stuff just muddies it up. It can be used with a magnifier tho, and then the BDC might have some value, but still wish it weren't lit up. At 1x, the whole AR-1X reticle is a real cluster F. We've tried it in a dark shoot house and when lit up, it was too much/too busy for CQB type shooting. Those are reasons why we ditched it since Burris didn't listen to people who actually used what this thing was intended for. ETA - Not meaning to trash Burris over this but actual consumer feedback is important IMO. I am a huge Burris supporter, and have 6 other Burris optics of different flavors, they are solid/GTG. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 10:16:24 AM EST
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Quoted: On sale at Midway. Says made in Japan, assembled in the PI. At 13oz not light, but not a big deal for me. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008722764?pid=856437 who says they use Japanese glass? pretty sure these are made in china. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 10:35:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had one when it first hit the market years ago (10 years perhaps?). Glass is decent. However, the huge flaw is that reticle. 1X is not conducive to BDC, especially a busy one. The reticle looked like a black blob (or red blob with illumination on) All of us 3 gunners dumped this unit after purchase. We tried to get Burris to reconfigure this reticle as it has potential, however, no one listened. There is a reason for that fire sale price. That's the thing that always kept me from biting on the Burris Prisms. But PA has been killing it lately. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 11:26:02 AM EST
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But PA has been killing it lately. Well, except for that ^ reticle 
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Posted: 9/22/2023 11:31:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: who says they use Japanese glass? pretty sure these are made in china. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On sale at Midway. Says made in Japan, assembled in the PI. At 13oz not light, but not a big deal for me. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008722764?pid=856437 who says they use Japanese glass? pretty sure these are made in china. It's in the Q&As on the Midway website. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 11:39:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's the case, there are better choices out there OP. An example is the PA 1x SLx (which is what I'm running on my 9mm and 223 carbines) - https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slx-1x-microprism-with-green-illuminated-acss-cyclops-gen-2-reticle Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My eyes wouldn't even make out the BDC markings. Mainly thinking of the green circle-dot portion for use on a house gun. If that's the case, there are better choices out there OP. An example is the PA 1x SLx (which is what I'm running on my 9mm and 223 carbines) - https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slx-1x-microprism-with-green-illuminated-acss-cyclops-gen-2-reticle I realize there are other options out there. I asked about the Burris for the price. The PA is more than $100 over the Burris and right now I'm pinching pennies. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 1:46:03 PM EST
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This was a suggestion on the same midway page and is what I'd get instead.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008761722?pid=159323 |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 6:23:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was a suggestion on the same midway page and is what I'd get instead. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008761722?pid=159323 Hmmm... |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 6:46:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's in the Q&As on the Midway website. lots of reviews saying it has a “made in china” sticker on it out of the box. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 7:21:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lots of reviews saying it has a “made in china” sticker on it out of the box. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's in the Q&As on the Midway website. lots of reviews saying it has a “made in china” sticker on it out of the box. Then go research it yourself. I'm going by what's on the Midway Q&As. So sue me. |
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Posted: 9/22/2023 8:13:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was a suggestion on the same midway page and is what I'd get instead. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008761722?pid=159323 They were sooo close to perfection in a 1x prism, but then they had to put another ring in there. Why do these people overthink this shit so?!?!? |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 8:13:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were sooo close to perfection in a 1x prism, but then they had to put another ring in there. Why do these people overthink this shit so?!?!? It's a copy of the Leupold cirle dot reticle. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 8:23:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a copy of the Leupold cirle dot reticle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They were sooo close to perfection in a 1x prism, but then they had to put another ring in there. Why do these people overthink this shit so?!?!? It's a copy of the Leupold cirle dot reticle. Fuck I hate that second ring! |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 11:15:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck I hate that second ring! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They were sooo close to perfection in a 1x prism, but then they had to put another ring in there. Why do these people overthink this shit so?!?!? It's a copy of the Leupold cirle dot reticle. Fuck I hate that second ring! I agree the outermost ring seems superfluous, but it doesn't seem horribly detrimental either. |
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Posted: 9/28/2023 8:07:04 AM EST
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It's unnecessary, the inner ring should stand alone as the thin one..
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