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Posted: 5/17/2010 7:04:00 PM EDT
| Molon, thanks for the great information. I am a relative newb to the AR platform and have a 20" Bushmaster with a detachable carry handle and A2 sights. Right now I have it zero'd using the M-16 A2 25m zero and your post is helpful for those trying to understand how the sights work. |
| Interestingly, my Daniel Defense M4 a1.5 sight has the 0-2 aperture printing higher than the unmarked when the unmarked is zeroed for 50/200 yds. This is the opposite of what it should be but then again the DD sight is really a bastard sight having the a2 apertures but an a1 mechanism with no elevation knob for use with the small aperture. |
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I read an article a couple of years back where the author measured a number of A2 sights and found a wide range of differences in the height of the aperture center.
Did you experience any change in horizontal POI between the two settings? Another issue addressed in the same article was the lateral movement of the site on the threaded mount. |
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If this is addressed to me, the answer is no, both groups were horizontally centered, with the 0-2 aperture grouping being approx. 1.5" higher at 50 yds.
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I read an article a couple of years back where the author measured a number of A2 sights and found a wide range of differences in the height of the aperture center. Did you experience any change in horizontal POI between the two settings? Another issue addressed in the same article was the lateral movement of the site on the threaded mount. |
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I'm still getting used to using irons.(red dot user) I zero with the small aperture at 50 yards. I get good groups. If I switch to the larger 1 my shots open up.
I always thought the difference was for a precision shot you should use the small aperture, & to just shoot on target quickly use the larger one. |
| Molon, fascinating thread. Questions - do we know the origin of the rationale why they programmed in a 200 meter zero? How can we determine that was their intent? makes sense, but is their historical data on this? What was the reason they felt a MOA change was warranted back then? Do different manufacturers maintain this 2 MOA difference? eg, colt, FN both do this? I have called two folks at FN this morning to see what they can tell me about current production carry handle sights on the M-16. |
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Molon, fascinating thread. Questions - do we know the origin of the rationale why they programmed in a 200 meter zero? How can we determine that was their intent? makes sense, but is their historical data on this? What was the reason they felt a MOA change was warranted back then? Do different manufacturers maintain this 2 MOA difference? eg, colt, FN both do this? I have called two folks at FN this morning to see what they can tell me about current production carry handle sights on the M-16. I can only tell you the "what." I'm not about to try to guess "why" Colt and the US Military did what they did.
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This is good info, I was considering a stand alone sight and the A-2 Aperture made little sense in a stand alone.
I had an Daniel 1.5 before and it shot lower with the 0-200 apet. Maybe I should reconsider it and adjust a 25/300zero with the small and 50-200 with the large. |
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How come I can't even hit the paper at 100 yards with the 0-2 apperture, when I can hit 5" circles from the same distance? It seems that I always hit two or three feet low That's with every AR I've owned. My guess is you might be centering the top of the protective ears instead of the front sight post in your sight alignment. I catch myself doing it sometimes. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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