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11/21/2006 9:37:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot][Edited]
i'm lookin for some inspiration on my first recce style build. i'm a total noob to the style and will gladly take any information. i just got my LCW lower in and i'm itchin till i can buy the LPK (still havent decided which one yet).

if this is in the wrong forum then my bad
11/21/2006 9:44:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Placeholder for my Recce build which will be done in about a week.
If you say "all my guns are tools, not toys" one more time, I will smack you. I'm serious. Get over yourself.
11/21/2006 10:26:03 PM EDT
[#2]
holding place till I get some new ones up loaded
"Don't toy with me Ernie I've already dispatched with Mr. Hooper, I've got six armed men stationed outside Big Birds nest, and as for Linda? Well its rather difficult for a deaf woman to hear an assassin approach now isn't it." -Stewy
11/21/2006 10:45:23 PM EDT
[#3]
mm, again probably not the best place but w/e -
could y'all give me a list of what makes up a recce build? like, the qualifications? from what i can tell it just needs to be super expensive
11/21/2006 10:54:56 PM EDT
[#4]
A Recce rifle is generally considered to be a carbine with a 16", high quality barrel, free-floated (often extended) rail, and some sort of optic.  Info on the "official" configuration can be found here: Wiki Linky.

The basic idea is a combat carbine that is designed to also be used for precision fire, and that is adaptable to many missions via the rail system, while maintaining its accuracy.
If you say "all my guns are tools, not toys" one more time, I will smack you. I'm serious. Get over yourself.
11/21/2006 11:15:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Krazny13][Edited] [#5]
Tag for future pics of my rebuild recce.

And a recce can be thought of as an accurized M-4 for shooting out to 600m.

ETA:

Only took me 2.5 years, but here they are:




been complete for. . .2 years?
Shoots like a house afire.  
Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum
11/21/2006 11:16:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Molon][Edited] [#6]
Noveske RECCE

Details and range report can be viewed here.




Ultimate RECCE

Details and range report can be viewed here.




Urban RECCE.

You know . . . here.


11/21/2006 11:34:31 PM EDT
[#7]
RECCEISH 6.8SPC
"10TH Mountain Division" "Climb to Glory" "To the Top, Sir!"
11/21/2006 11:58:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: edwin907][Edited] [#8]
16" Recon with OPS 12th Suppressor.

11/22/2006 3:03:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Stickman][Edited] [#9]
A build that went to someone else....

Stick

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www.rainierarms.com
(253) 893-0101 Office
(253) 859-1023 FAX
(253) 653-7522 Cell
11/22/2006 3:06:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Stickman][Edited] [#10]
One of mine I just rebuilt...

Stick

[email protected]
www.rainierarms.com
(253) 893-0101 Office
(253) 859-1023 FAX
(253) 653-7522 Cell
11/22/2006 3:08:33 AM EDT
[#11]
One of mine...

Stick

[email protected]
www.rainierarms.com
(253) 893-0101 Office
(253) 859-1023 FAX
(253) 653-7522 Cell
11/22/2006 3:56:15 AM EDT
[#12]

Originally Posted By Stickman:
One of mine...

img104.imageshack.us/img104/55/img63651stickpc8.jpg


Damn, I love it when you post pics.
11/22/2006 6:50:41 AM EDT
[#13]

Originally Posted By 45er:

Originally Posted By Stickman:
One of mine...

img104.imageshack.us/img104/55/img63651stickpc8.jpg


Damn, I love it when you post pics.

I hate you, Stickman.  Everytime You post a pic of one of your thousands of rifles, I get so jealous I just want to shoot myself.  
11/22/2006 12:43:27 PM EDT
[#14]
I just did a thread like this recently that you might want to check out...

16” RECCE\Recon\Operator type builds – Post’em if you have’em!
Disclaimer:
My comments above are worth what you paid for them.
My posts often contain poor grammar and spelling and may be edited.
There is no telling what state of mind I was in when I wrote this or even if I had a state of mind at the
11/22/2006 1:11:25 PM EDT
[#15]
real men shoot bull barrels. its all about the girth.
11/22/2006 1:26:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imq707s][Edited] [#16]
Here is mine.....would you call it a recce style?









With the new light!

11/22/2006 2:31:14 PM EDT
[#17]

"Don't toy with me Ernie I've already dispatched with Mr. Hooper, I've got six armed men stationed outside Big Birds nest, and as for Linda? Well its rather difficult for a deaf woman to hear an assassin approach now isn't it." -Stewy
11/22/2006 2:39:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: knightsar][Edited] [#18]

My version of a Reece


11/22/2006 4:59:40 PM EDT
[#19]

Originally Posted By infsqdldr:
i112.photobucket.com/albums/n176/corbettjake/IM000941.jpg


what is that scope and mount?
11/22/2006 5:27:25 PM EDT
[#20]

Originally Posted By Stickman:
A build that went to someone else....

img219.imageshack.us/img219/7820/img7986stickgb3.jpg


Where did you get the mag with the clear window on it?!?!
11/22/2006 5:42:04 PM EDT
[#21]

Originally Posted By triggeritch:

Originally Posted By Stickman:
A build that went to someone else....

img219.imageshack.us/img219/7820/img7986stickgb3.jpg


Where did you get the mag with the clear window on it?!?!

Magpul sells them.
11/22/2006 10:23:46 PM EDT
[#22]










KAC's SR16 Recce


14.5 M4A1upper in kinda recce mode


Good, Bad... I'm the guy with the Gun

HipFiredGun & P L-W are the same man...
11/23/2006 6:46:18 PM EDT
[#23]

Originally Posted By Kal-El:

Originally Posted By infsqdldr:
i112.photobucket.com/albums/n176/corbettjake/IM000941.jpg


what is that scope and mount?


zos 1.25-4.5x scope, now sold as rex.  yhm 5" rail extender, actually need a 6" or 7".  warne low rings.  about $110 total, wanted to try out the scope style before spending alot on a nice scope.
real men shoot bull barrels. its all about the girth.
12/1/2006 7:23:17 PM EDT
[#24]
bump for new additions
12/1/2006 7:41:43 PM EDT
[#25]
6.8 Reece.  My new Built.

12/1/2006 7:46:47 PM EDT
[#26]
what front sites are y'all using? i've seen some that are on the barrel and some that are on the rails. which way do y'all prefer? i'm havin a tough time deciding what way i want my front site to be setup.
12/18/2006 6:54:13 PM EDT
[#27]
btt
12/18/2006 7:13:22 PM EDT
[#28]

12/18/2006 7:57:05 PM EDT
[#29]




Bushmaster upper and lower
Denny's Recon barrel w/ bolt
Larue 13.2 forend and lo-pro gas block
Vltor stock
Troy BUIS
Ta31F ACOG
Harris 6-9 BRM-s Bipod w/ ARMS mount
AAC M4-2000 Silencer
MCM two stage trigger
Ergo grip
12/18/2006 8:37:34 PM EDT
[#30]

Originally Posted By knightsar:
My version of a Reece


img70.imageshack.us/img70/9642/dsc00816largeks5.jpg


Hands down my favorite. Even nicer looking in person.
Isaiah 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
And I said, "Here I am, send me."
12/18/2006 9:02:31 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By RRA0211:
holding place till I get some new ones up loaded
i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/raa0211/DSC06876.jpg



how do you like the trg reflex with the aimpint 3x???
12/18/2006 11:56:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hokie][Edited] [#32]


I kept pulling all my collapsable stocks back to the A1 length... so I decided to simplify my RECCE by making it a no brainer!  1/2 MOA all day long.

GTS Recon Bbl, Leupy 1.5X5 Ill SPR on a Larue 1.5, DD 12.0, Phantom 5C2, Troy Front & Rear BUIS, PRI Charging Handle, Geissele trigger, MGI buffer, Vltor A1 Clubfoot, Harris 3-6" on a Larue Mount, BFG Vickers Sling (rail mount now located close to the upper), Magpul MIAD, Magpul Ladders.
Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave the country.
-Theodore Roosevelt
12/19/2006 12:24:49 AM EDT
[#33]

Originally Posted By imq707s:

With the new light!

img84.imageshack.us/img84/1139/1000279skm5.jpg


I like the looks of that new light and mount. Can you tell me about them? Thank you.
12/19/2006 1:26:41 AM EDT
[#34]


My Recce with new stock and a duracoated barrel.
Shoots BH 77gr into pretty much the same hole at 100 yds as long as I do my part.  
Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum
12/19/2006 1:46:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Saryan][Edited] [#35]
I only have a couple pics as mine is still in the build up phases. The important stuff is here though.
Lilja 16" Mod 1 barrel
13.2 Larue on the way to replace 9.0
Young Mfg Carrier
PRI gasbuster
Larue SPR mount
Knights 2 stage on the way to replace CMK
OPS Inc MB and 12th model in near future.
My scope will be the 2-10 NF
I am also trying to get my hands on either a Colt M4 upper or a Larue Stealth. Cant decide which route yet. I havnt had a real "photoshoot" for it yet so the pics are crappy but they are pics.




12/19/2006 2:15:04 AM EDT
[#36]

Originally Posted By Saryan:
I only have a couple pics as mine is still in the build up phases. The important stuff is here though.
Lilja Dev Group SPR profile barrel
13.2 Larue on the way to replace 9.0
Young Mfg BC
PRI gasbuster
Larue SPR mount
Knights 2 stage on the way to replace CMK
OPS Inc MB and 12th model in near future.
My scope will be the 2-10 NF
I am also trying to get my hands on either a Colt M4 upper or a Larue Stealth. Cant decide which route yet. I havnt had a real "photoshoot" for it yet so the pics are crappy but they are pics.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/IMG_1858.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1328.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1330.jpg


Sounds spectacular, although a little more "SPR" than "Recce"
If you say "all my guns are tools, not toys" one more time, I will smack you. I'm serious. Get over yourself.
12/19/2006 7:33:37 AM EDT
[#37]

Originally Posted By Saryan:
I only have a couple pics as mine is still in the build up phases. The important stuff is here though.
Lilja Dev Group SPR profile barrel
13.2 Larue on the way to replace 9.0
Young Mfg BC
PRI gasbuster
Larue SPR mount
Knights 2 stage on the way to replace CMK
OPS Inc MB and 12th model in near future.
My scope will be the 2-10 NF
I am also trying to get my hands on either a Colt M4 upper or a Larue Stealth. Cant decide which route yet. I havnt had a real "photoshoot" for it yet so the pics are crappy but they are pics.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/IMG_1858.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1328.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1330.jpg

Your's sounds like it will end up very similar to the way I hope my (which I am still working on) will end up.

As far as the upper, If you want a Colt M4 receiver and have a C&R license, you can get one from Brownells for about $165. Only problem is the last one I got looked pretty rough. Not a huge deal but if you are interested in another option, DD is making uppers now. They are still milled from forged blanks but I'm thinking (hoping) the QC is a little better then your average CMT upper. Rainier Arms has them for $150 with or without M4 ramps...
Disclaimer:
My comments above are worth what you paid for them.
My posts often contain poor grammar and spelling and may be edited.
There is no telling what state of mind I was in when I wrote this or even if I had a state of mind at the
12/19/2006 8:41:56 AM EDT
[#38]
Guess I will have to build a recce now. Been planning it for a while.
Isaiah 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
And I said, "Here I am, send me."
12/19/2006 5:42:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Just got it back today, just need a scope for it!

LMT upper
Stag Lower
Clonepoint
MIAD of course
CAA Stock Saddle
YHM 4 Rail FF
Surefire (not even sure wich model)

12/19/2006 8:37:09 PM EDT
[#40]

Originally Posted By Phoebus:

Originally Posted By Saryan:
I only have a couple pics as mine is still in the build up phases. The important stuff is here though.
Lilja Dev Group SPR profile barrel
13.2 Larue on the way to replace 9.0
Young Mfg BC
PRI gasbuster
Larue SPR mount
Knights 2 stage on the way to replace CMK
OPS Inc MB and 12th model in near future.
My scope will be the 2-10 NF
I am also trying to get my hands on either a Colt M4 upper or a Larue Stealth. Cant decide which route yet. I havnt had a real "photoshoot" for it yet so the pics are crappy but they are pics.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/IMG_1858.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1328.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1330.jpg


Sounds spectacular, although a little more "SPR" than "Recce"

The barrel is actually what MSTN calls the Recce Mod 1. Its a 16" with OPS Inc shoulders. It looks like edwin907's Recce. I would rather have the OPS can than the KAC so I went this route. I should have mentioned that the barrel length was 16".
12/19/2006 8:42:09 PM EDT
[#41]

Originally Posted By Saryan:

Originally Posted By Phoebus:

Originally Posted By Saryan:
I only have a couple pics as mine is still in the build up phases. The important stuff is here though.
Lilja Dev Group SPR profile barrel
13.2 Larue on the way to replace 9.0
Young Mfg BC
PRI gasbuster
Larue SPR mount
Knights 2 stage on the way to replace CMK
OPS Inc MB and 12th model in near future.
My scope will be the 2-10 NF
I am also trying to get my hands on either a Colt M4 upper or a Larue Stealth. Cant decide which route yet. I havnt had a real "photoshoot" for it yet so the pics are crappy but they are pics.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/IMG_1858.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1328.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/saryan25/100_1330.jpg


Sounds spectacular, although a little more "SPR" than "Recce"

The barrel is actually what MSTN calls the Recce Mod 1. Its a 16" with OPS Inc shoulders. It looks like edwin907's Recce. I would rather have the OPS can than the KAC so I went this route. I should have mentioned that the barrel length was 16".


You know, I didn't notice that it was 16".  It looked 18" to me for some reason at first blush.  Definitely in the Recce category
If you say "all my guns are tools, not toys" one more time, I will smack you. I'm serious. Get over yourself.
12/21/2006 12:10:55 AM EDT
[#42]
If you say "all my guns are tools, not toys" one more time, I will smack you. I'm serious. Get over yourself.
12/22/2006 9:36:15 AM EDT
[#43]


Crappy pic, I know.
My head is polygonally-rifled.
12/22/2006 9:45:01 AM EDT
[#44]

Originally Posted By The_Muffin_Man:
what front sites are y'all using? i've seen some that are on the barrel and some that are on the rails. which way do y'all prefer? i'm havin a tough time deciding what way i want my front site to be setup.


Troy sights, I'd mount it to the rail.  It's less barrel stress (every little bit helps) and you can full-on remove it (for whatever reason) without removing your flash suppressor.
If you go this route make sure you get an AK front sight adjustment tool.  I like the plastic "key" types myself, some folks like the "press" type tools.
My head is polygonally-rifled.
3/20/2007 12:07:08 AM EDT
[#45]
Bump

Anymore recent Recce builds?  
3/20/2007 1:47:51 AM EDT
[#46]
"Don't toy with me Ernie I've already dispatched with Mr. Hooper, I've got six armed men stationed outside Big Birds nest, and as for Linda? Well its rather difficult for a deaf woman to hear an assassin approach now isn't it." -Stewie
3/20/2007 5:39:56 AM EDT
[#47]

Originally Posted By TurnTwo:
Bump

Anymore recent Recce builds?  


re-configured Recce builds count?

"Do you see any similarities here, sir? How long before gun control proponents realize that your .223 and my 5.56mm make the exact same sized hole? "
-richardh247
3/20/2007 5:50:35 AM EDT
[#48]

Poor-man's Recce build
"Now remember kids, if there's a loaded gun in the room, be sure you're the one who's holding it." -- Captain Combat

"Darwin says you should not try this......but if you do, you help prove the theory." -- RaynoEleven
3/20/2007 7:49:01 AM EDT
[#49]

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By TurnTwo:
Bump

Anymore recent Recce builds?  


re-configured Recce builds count?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Hokie1850/Midlength11b-da.jpg

Hokie -

I'm sure you've probably mentioned this before but would you mind explaining again why you dumped the Luepold in favor of the ACOG?

I've realized then when building a RECCE, there are 2 ways to approach it from.. Some people build theirs as basically a 16” defensive\combat carbine that can, when needed, be used for precision work. Others seem to build theirs as a precision rig that can, when needed, be used a defensive\combat carbine. I’m guessing yours is more of the former rather then latter?
Disclaimer:
My comments above are worth what you paid for them.
My posts often contain poor grammar and spelling and may be edited.
There is no telling what state of mind I was in when I wrote this or even if I had a state of mind at the
3/20/2007 8:51:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hokie][Edited] [#50]

Originally Posted By cgv69:

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By TurnTwo:
Bump

Anymore recent Recce builds?  


re-configured Recce builds count?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/Hokie1850/Midlength11b-da.jpg

Hokie -
I'm sure you've probably mentioned this before but would you mind explaining again why you dumped the Luepold in favor of the ACOG?

I've realized then when building a RECCE, there are 2 ways to approach it from.. Some people build theirs as basically a 16” defensive\combat carbine that can, when needed, be used for precision work. Others seem to build theirs as a precision rig that can, when needed, be used a defensive\combat carbine. I’m guessing yours is more of the former rather then latter?


Well summarized!

The former is pretty much my set up.  Keep in mind this is my situation and may differ from others....

From my experience participating in courses or drills or exercises beyond the range, I conclude that any 'real world' apocalyptic SHTF application of an AR15 will be in a venue under 200 yards with repetative shooting over 200 yards being rare.  I've ALWAYS wanted a 'do-it-all' and rugged AR15.  When the TA33R8 came out - it made the configuration possible.  

I've never taken a $1,000 scope and dragged it behind my truck, but I've always felt scopes couldn't match the structural integrity of an ACOG.  RE: the ACOG, something always kept me from hanging on to them...the TA31 eye relief is too short, the TA11 is too big, the compacts aren't versatile for longer ranges, the FOV and eye relief never seemed to balance well for me.... the list goes on.  Then Trijicon took all the best parts of each of the ACOG models and crammed them into the TA33.  That was half the battle.

Also, when dialing my scopes in, I find that there's nothing I can hit with the 5X SPR crosshairs of the 1.5X5 that I can't hit with a 3X. Plus the fiber optic's in the ACOG is just simply too sweet to beat.  The glass is superb, the frame is bombproof, the tritium gives you perfect contrast at dawn & dusk, and the customer service is unmatched.

Beyond that, I found the Leupold's M2 BDC dials to be overly complicated and a waste of space.  I also think a SHTF gun should be 'dumbed down' as much as possible, putting the BDC inside the scope, not outside.

I figure the best 'RECCE' configuration is a defensive carbine that can dabble with precision shooting.  My gun still has a Geissele trigger, MGI buffer, DD12.0, and 16" GTS Recon Barrel.  The accuracy is there and the recoil is minimal.  The 3X Chevron & BDC gets me to the extended minute of man ranges I need and want to reach out too.  The speed of the smaller FOV & overall small diameter of the ACOG makes for a real fast optic and the BAC only aids that.  I just think that the ACOG is a better "RECCE" optic for a match carbine than a precision scope.The overall weight of the whole carbine is about 8.5 lbs empty.  

To sum up, the TA33 gives my AR15 a little more 'defensive' edge that my Leupold did NOT.  I feel 10-300 yard speed is more important than 50-500 yard precision.  That's how I see these two scopes anyway.  AR15's should allow you to be fast & accurate at ANY range.  I think the TA33 outshines the Leupold in this regard.  Hope that explains it better.  It's my take on things, I'm sure others will agree or disagree.

...and when a trade offer came in for a large healthy volume of red box Hornaday 75-grain LEO 5.56 TAP ammo...the decision to offload the Leupy was indisputable.
"Do you see any similarities here, sir? How long before gun control proponents realize that your .223 and my 5.56mm make the exact same sized hole? "
-richardh247

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