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Posted: 12/13/2011 12:52:29 PM EDT
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What are my options for putting a folding stock on an ak these days?
Here is my caveat, I don't want a block that screws into a fixed stock tang, other than maybe an ace stock. I would prefer a triangle folder, or one of the folders that looks like a normal fixed stock. These things were everywhere a few years ago, but I can't find any now. I even remember reading not too long ago about us made triangle folders, but they had an issue with soft trunnions, but I could work around that if the rest of the stock is up to snuff quality wise. Thanks |
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I have two AKs with Polish M96 Beryl folding stocks, but there's a lot of other stuff out there. Hope this helps.
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I don't recommend the ACE pushbutton side folder. Think 9 times before cutting the tab off the back. I will reiterate: Do not cut the tang off the back. I was just about to buy one, why should I not got with it? Supposedly if you want to re-install a fixed stock at a later date. But really, the ACE folder is on paper superior to every other stock for the AK. Modular construction allowing for different LOP or use of an AR-15 stock, the ability to fold using an all-steel Galil-type hinge, and construction that is at least equal in durability to a fixed stock. But some like the look of a com-bloc stock. If you want an ACE folder you're not enough of a traditionalist to really care. |
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I don't recommend the ACE pushbutton side folder. Think 9 times before cutting the tab off the back. I will reiterate: Do not cut the tang off the back. I was just about to buy one, why should I not got with it? Supposedly if you want to re-install a fixed stock at a later date. But really, the ACE folder is on paper superior to every other stock for the AK. Modular construction allowing for different LOP or use of an AR-15 stock, the ability to fold using an all-steel Galil-type hinge, and construction that is at least equal in durability to a fixed stock. But some like the look of a com-bloc stock. If you want an ACE folder you're not enough of a traditionalist to really care. I'm pretty sure this is why he was not recommending the ACE push button side folder. It's apparently a pretty flawed design. |
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I don't recommend the ACE pushbutton side folder. Think 9 times before cutting the tab off the back. I will reiterate: Do not cut the tang off the back. I was just about to buy one, why should I not got with it? Supposedly if you want to re-install a fixed stock at a later date. But really, the ACE folder is on paper superior to every other stock for the AK. Modular construction allowing for different LOP or use of an AR-15 stock, the ability to fold using an all-steel Galil-type hinge, and construction that is at least equal in durability to a fixed stock. But some like the look of a com-bloc stock. If you want an ACE folder you're not enough of a traditionalist to really care. I'm pretty sure this is why he was not recommending the ACE push button side folder. It's apparently a pretty flawed design. That thread points out that he was using their old version of the side folder.....ACE emailed him back and told him they have a newer version out and just asked that he pay shipping both ways for them to repair his. I had the ace folder with internal receiver block and loved it. YMMV I guess:D That triangle folder is a steal at that price. Looks awesome. |
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I don't recommend the ACE pushbutton side folder. Think 9 times before cutting the tab off the back. I will reiterate: Do not cut the tang off the back. I was just about to buy one, why should I not got with it? Supposedly if you want to re-install a fixed stock at a later date. But really, the ACE folder is on paper superior to every other stock for the AK. Modular construction allowing for different LOP or use of an AR-15 stock, the ability to fold using an all-steel Galil-type hinge, and construction that is at least equal in durability to a fixed stock. But some like the look of a com-bloc stock. If you want an ACE folder you're not enough of a traditionalist to really care. I'm pretty sure this is why he was not recommending the ACE push button side folder. It's apparently a pretty flawed design. That thread points out that he was using their old version of the side folder.....ACE emailed him back and told him they have a newer version out and just asked that he pay shipping both ways for them to repair his. I had the ace folder with internal receiver block and loved it. YMMV I guess:D That triangle folder is a steal at that price. Looks awesome. I agree, the guy should have just payed the 15 bucks shipping to get the new part. Everyone gets so upset about policies like that put in place. If the company goes and changes their policies, so that they pay shipping on things out of warranty for repairs they are not just going to take a loss. What they will do is raise prices on their products to make up for expected losses on shipping down the road and what will probably happen is then the company makes an even greater profit while we all pay more. |
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I've seen those, what else is needed for the install (trunnion, hardware, etc).? |
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I've seen those, what else is needed for the install (trunnion, hardware, etc).? The rear block is included as part of the stock assembly. You will need a rivet set and a dedicated AKS74 receiver, such as the NDS-2SF model we offer. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC http://www.nodakspud.com |
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I've seen those, what else is needed for the install (trunnion, hardware, etc).? The rear block is included as part of the stock assembly. You will need a rivet set and a dedicated AKS74 receiver, such as the NDS-2SF model we offer. Harlan NoDak Spud LLC http://www.nodakspud.com So that can't be installed in an Arsenal or other AK? I thought that you could just cut out the old trunnion and replace it with this? |
| You will need to remove the rear trunnion, seal up the holes where the old rivets were, cut the correct angle on the rear of the receiver and the correct slot for the hinge mechanism, drill new holes and rivet in new trunnion. Then on the front left hand side underneath the front trunnion you will have to cut a slot for the latch that holds it closed as well as drill a hole for the pin that latch pivots on. While I wouldn't necessarily say it's difficult, there are many opportunities to mess up if you aren't careful while you work. |
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You will need to remove the rear trunnion, seal up the holes where the old rivets were, cut the correct angle on the rear of the receiver and the correct slot for the hinge mechanism, drill new holes and rivet in new trunnion. Then on the front left hand side underneath the front trunnion you will have to cut a slot for the latch that holds it closed as well as drill a hole for the pin that latch pivots on. While I wouldn't necessarily say it's difficult, there are many opportunities to mess up if you aren't careful while you work. Cool, thanks. |
I am a big fan of ACE folding mechanisms with internal blocks. I could care less about keeping a tang. If I want it not to fold anymore, I can easily remove the folding part and bolt directly to the internal block. All my folding mechanism has been rock solid, does not move even under recoil of the Saiga 12.
The only pushbutton style I would trust is the Russian style. This Bulgarian folder has been rock solid. 
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