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Posted: 9/3/2005 7:25:06 PM EDT
After I saw the underfolder the columbians are carrying I been thinking of a milled .223.
Never seem to see any for sale,are they available new or used?Did they ever make a US underfolder?Any info or leads will be great
Thank You
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 7:31:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 9:37:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Templar:
Arsenal has discontinued the milled SA-M5 rifles, at least for this year. They are planning to introduce a stamped receiver model in 5.56mm.

I will say that the milled 5.56mm SA-M5 is probably the sweetest shooting AK I've ever shot, not including the Valmet and Galils, but comparable.

If you gotta have a milled 5.56mm, try to get yourself one of the fixed stock rifles and then have one of the better smiths out there convert it to an underfolder, but it won't be cheap, not even a little bit.


After the converted 95,milled is the real deal.Are the fixed stock available? Pricing new or used
approx.?
Does anybody ever see these on the used market?
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:03:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gaucho1:

Originally Posted By Templar:
Arsenal has discontinued the milled SA-M5 rifles, at least for this year. They are planning to introduce a stamped receiver model in 5.56mm.

I will say that the milled 5.56mm SA-M5 is probably the sweetest shooting AK I've ever shot, not including the Valmet and Galils, but comparable.

If you gotta have a milled 5.56mm, try to get yourself one of the fixed stock rifles and then have one of the better smiths out there convert it to an underfolder, but it won't be cheap, not even a little bit.


After the converted 95,milled is the real deal.Are the fixed stock available? Pricing new or used
approx.?
Does anybody ever see these on the used market?



If you want a SA M-5 this guy has a few left at excellent prices, w/rail and without: www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6905607. You'd still have to get a conversion done for an underfolder ...
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:33:38 AM EDT
Don't even blink -- buy this thing now. I bought my M5S a few weeks ago for $700.00 and I know the dealer made basically squat on the transaction. It's the sweetest semi I own -- and I have a bunch. Will be converted shortly to an AR M9 by Newton Firearms.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:17:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 7:23:47 PM EDT by gaucho1]
Followed your lead,kept looking,found one for $659 with the rail,sent $ today.
Thank You for your stoke,looks like milled is a subset of the addiction.

Next.....Kobra ekp 8-18 with bpo2 mount?
Plaese tell me what you think.



What mags will fit other than bulgy waffles.How are the waffles?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:48:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gaucho1:
Followed your lead,kept looking,found one for $659 with the rail,sent $ today.
Thank You for your stoke,looks like milled is a subset of the addiction.

Next.....Kobra ekp 8-18 with bpo2 mount?
Plaese tell me what you think.



What mags will fit other than bulgy waffles.How are the waffles?


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Good move. I don't know about the East German Wiegers. Anyone out there have a clue? They work great in an SAR-3. The Waffles work just fine. Not familiar with that Kobra, I have an older one from Tantal on an Romak II.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:08:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:31:02 PM EDT
I hear AND I obey oh dark one.
I think this may be the best sub-forum.......at least for mill heads.



Bulgaria?

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 8:36:41 PM EDT
690$ for the milled 556 is that a good price (for my own good tell me not to buy it PLEASE)
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 2:23:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
690$ for the milled 556 is that a good price (for my own good tell me not to buy it PLEASE)


Come on buy one. You know you want to. And it will cost a little closer to $721.14 shipped
www.auctionarms.com/Closed/DisplayItem.cfm?ItemNum=6876370.0

Is that a good price? I cant tell you that yet. I havent picked it up.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 5:12:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 5:26:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gaucho1:
Followed your lead,kept looking,found one for $659 with the rail,sent $ today.
Thank You for your stoke,looks like milled is a subset of the addiction.

Next.....Kobra ekp 8-18 with bpo2 mount?
Plaese tell me what you think.



What mags will fit other than bulgy waffles.How are the waffles?



The BP 02 mount sits left of center over the rifle, this one from K-Var sits centered and is a kick ass mount: KV-04, KV-04S ...
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 5:37:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Apache659:

Originally Posted By gaucho1:
Followed your lead,kept looking,found one for $659 with the rail,sent $ today.
Thank You for your stoke,looks like milled is a subset of the addiction.

Next.....Kobra ekp 8-18 with bpo2 mount?
Plaese tell me what you think.



What mags will fit other than bulgy waffles.How are the waffles?



The BP 02 mount sits left of center over the rifle, this one from K-Var sits centered and is a kick ass mount: KV-04, KV-04S ...



What's the difference between the two? How low does it sit?
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 3:27:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
What's the difference between the two? How low does it sit?



$5, LOL ...

I think the "S" model is the newest design. I don't think the KV-04 sits quite as low as the BP 02 but it isn't too much taller, I wouldn't call it a high mount. I'm sure if I'm wrong about something Templar can clear it up for us ...
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 3:52:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:44:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Templar:
The lowest mount I've used, and it even lets you get a good cheek weld.......

BP-02 Low from Freedom Optics

www.freedomoptics.com/Comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=141



YES OH GLOWING COAL

Just got the kobra at the ee Now the mount Thanks for all the help-MAX stoke


Cowboy clothes and trigger get me into Dales pants. Roy Rogers
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:52:05 PM EDT
that does look pretty darned low!

I'm thinking of changing out my 4x posp on teh saiga 308 for one of those and a 6x ior.... I just don't know if it's worth like 600$ for the total upgrade when my present package is pretty darned usable. Scope came with the rifle but damn useless european reticle and low magnification. I'd rather get the ior with a dragunov reticle that's cammed for the 308 round.......

what say you?

scope:


The saiga is here:


Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:57:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:05:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Templar:
I never have been able to deal with the Dragunov style reticle. I really dig the German #1 or #4 reticle though, heavy 3 point crosshair with the hair a fine one.

Gaucho, did you get the Kobra that mounts on a Weaver style base, cause most Kobras have the mount built into the scope assembly.



I just meant some sort of rangefinding reticle, I happen to like the dragunov, no clutter on top.... just me. Their CQB reticle is cute, but it seems to cover too much of the target.....
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:09:55 PM EDT
We are weavered,that way I can use the mount for other optics,I think.
.223 milled,sounds like 880 yds of pure hit to me.

Bulgaria?????
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:18:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:45:57 PM EDT
Got the smoothest,leanest ,best looking .223 today.
Makes my galil look and feel clunky.
As a heads up,appears deeslayer has his lowest price at sturmgewer.$659 with rail.
Super nice and clean,no flaws in exterior finish,nothing canted.10 mags on way,kobra and mount ready.
Now we see how it runs.
Thank You All for your advice and stoke.


When can I get my true darkside badge oh coal like one?

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 9:30:13 PM EDT
You bought out all the mags at K-Var before I could, didn't you ...

Now all you need is some SS109, it's way accurate for zombies and such but a bit expensive for plinking ...
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 1:03:39 AM EDT
Hmmmmmmm
I checked the k-var site,they do show sold out.
Hope they honor my e-mail backed, on site, pmo order...
Still
A FULL stoke

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 5:05:15 PM EDT
HEADS UP Milled Arsenal .223

NEW with 5 new mags $650

Sturmgewehr Great Deal

Link Posted: 10/2/2005 7:15:19 AM EDT
I have not seen any of the new "no-ban" Aresenal .223s for sale at funshows this year. It seems they sell pretty fast. I'm looking at an older "ban" style SA M-5. I know they were pretty limited production rifles. Aside from the threaded muzzle on the "new" rifle, are there any reasons one would be better to have than the other? I remember reading something about the Bulgys changing the feed ramp design on the newer mags. I would be curious to know any opinions about the differences. I finally gave up on Chinese and Romanian .223 AKs and want a REALLY good one for a change.
Link Posted: 10/2/2005 8:13:34 AM EDT
Just do a search for SA M-5 at Auction Arms ...

Deerslayer still has several listed there with rails and without ...
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