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8/15/2008 2:35:44 PM EDT
It started as a plain stock wasr-10, that I became inspired when I saw pic's of Loki's wasr, he gave me directions to copy cat his wood color, which turned out real nice, thanks Lokihilehttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Tarheel_John/031.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Tarheel_John/030.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Tarheel_John/032.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Tarheel_John/034.jpg
I love the Bulgy slabsides, they fit perfect with no waggle like the steal mags do in wasr's
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/Tarheel_John/033.jpg
So what do you guys think
8/15/2008 3:09:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Nice.
8/15/2008 3:45:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Nice AK.
8/15/2008 3:52:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Very nice! My bolt carrier didnt turn out as nice as yours mine had pretty bad machining marks.
8/15/2008 4:19:31 PM EDT
[#4]
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Very nice! My bolt carrier didnt turn out as nice as yours mine had pretty bad machining marks.Thanks, I found that unless your a master of the dremel, its best to do it by hand, but it takes foever.  I would rub on some never-dull wadding polish until it was haisy then rub it with a scotch-bright pad, then wadding polish, then scotch bright and over and over again. It turnded out really nice
8/15/2008 10:21:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Mine
8/16/2008 9:47:44 AM EDT
[#6]
 Man i love the look of the stock after you refinished it. Would like to know what you used. I already did the battlefield look & polished my bolt about a year ago.
8/16/2008 10:54:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Sweet!!  I really like the staining!  I am also thinking hard about using some find Steel wool to sand down the parker on one my GP Wasr 10/63s.

After removing the Parker finish are you seeing any signs of rust from the mosture in the air?
8/16/2008 12:15:54 PM EDT
[#8]
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 Man i love the look of the stock after you refinished it. Would like to know what you used. I already did the battlefield look & polished my bolt about a year ago.hanks,
1. First you need to sand the wood til its almost white and you see all the wood grain.
2. I put 3 or 4 coats of red mahogany minwax stain, then let it dry for a day.
3. I let it soak in RIT clothing dye (Scarlet Red) for about 12 hours.
4. Let it dry for atleast 2 days, depending on the weather it took mine 3 or 4 because of high humidity.
5. Then when I finally got some less humid weather, I put clear semi-gloss laquer on, I applied a couple coats, let it dry then rubed it smooth with steal wool, then applied a couple more coats and so on until i was happy with it.

PS when it comes to drying the laquer DON'T PUT THE WOOD IN THE SUN, let it dry in the shade, I learned the hard way because if it gets to hot it wil bubble up and you'll have to sand it down with steal wool and start over again.
8/16/2008 12:25:02 PM EDT
[#9]
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Sweet!!  I really like the staining!  I am also thinking hard about using some find Steel wool to sand down the parker on one my GP Wasr 10/63s.

After removing the Parker finish are you seeing any signs of rust from the mosture in the air?


I'm not to worried about that because I keep it in a gun cabnet inside the house where its always air conditioned and doesn't get that humid.
8/16/2008 12:28:25 PM EDT
[#10]

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 Man i love the look of the stock after you refinished it. Would like to know what you used. I already did the battlefield look & polished my bolt about a year ago.


Thanks, but I can't take all the credit for the wood, I copied what Loki did.

1. First you need to sand the wood til its almost white and you see all the wood grain.
2. I put 3 or 4 coats of red mahogany minwax stain, then let it dry for a day.
3. I let it soak in RIT clothing dye (Scarlet Red) for about 12 hours.
4. Let it dry for atleast 2 days, depending on the weather it took mine 3 or 4 because of high humidity.
5. Then when I finally got some less humid weather, I put clear semi-gloss laquer on, I applied a couple coats, let it dry then rubed it smooth with steal wool, then applied a couple more coats and so on until i was happy with it.

PS when it comes to drying the laquer DON'T PUT THE WOOD IN THE SUN, let it dry in the shade, I learned the hard way because if it gets to hot it wil bubble up and you'll have to sand it down with steal wool and start over again.


Nice write-up.  I'll use it in the future.
8/17/2008 3:52:21 PM EDT
[#11]
Nice!  Your stock turned out just like mine.  Looks like the same color.  Yours even changes color depending on the light, like mine.  Indirect light it's a dark red, in sunlight it's a nice blood red!  Glad I could help!


8/17/2008 8:15:45 PM EDT
[#12]
Yup, refinished WASR wood is where it's at!



I followed a similar procedure but I actually just used red colored stain and amber shellac. That RIT dye method looks good though...if Dunhams ever puts WASRs on sale again I'll have to pick one up and try it out...
8/17/2008 9:51:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Yours turned out pretty nice also bullseye, thats an interesting lower handguard you got there, it almost looks like the wood grain is in a swirl pattern.
8/18/2008 8:31:59 AM EDT
[#14]
You should spray paint your pistol grip to a brown or red to match to that wood.

I did a couple in a maroonish brown color. You can see it on my wasr10 bottom rifle in this pic. Came out pretty good. I used a plain Sears brand spray paint and let it dry out side on a 90 degree summer day. It has held up well. If you want try some Krlylon that's available for plastics.  

8/18/2008 10:48:37 AM EDT
[#15]
Thanks Drobs, but I just ordered a Romanian wine pistol grip, that looks kind of like a blood-red bakelite material grip, I'll post a pic when I get it on there.  I should still be fine with the tapco triger assembly (3) + tapco gas piston (4) & US muzzle break makes (5) compliance parts
8/18/2008 11:31:50 AM EDT
[#16]
put a dark red bakelite grip on that baby ;).
8/18/2008 3:22:36 PM EDT
[#17]
I believe a stamped receiver AK with muzzle device actually has a 6 US part requirement for 922r.

The piston you replaced on the WASR was actually already a US made piston. Century doesn't mark theirs IIRC. I believe they just have an "understanding" with the ATF that they are US made...

Take this with a grain of salt though...my legal advice is worth about as much as you paid for it. Someone smarter and more informed than myself should be along to straighten things out soon enough...
9/19/2008 2:37:40 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

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 Man i love the look of the stock after you refinished it. Would like to know what you used. I already did the battlefield look & polished my bolt about a year ago.


Thanks, but I can't take all the credit for the wood, I copied what Loki did.

1. First you need to sand the wood til its almost white and you see all the wood grain.
2. I put 3 or 4 coats of red mahogany minwax stain, then let it dry for a day.
3. I let it soak in RIT clothing dye (Scarlet Red) for about 12 hours.
4. Let it dry for atleast 2 days, depending on the weather it took mine 3 or 4 because of high humidity.
5. Then when I finally got some less humid weather, I put clear semi-gloss laquer on, I applied a couple coats, let it dry then rubed it smooth with steal wool, then applied a couple more coats and so on until i was happy with it.

PS when it comes to drying the laquer DON'T PUT THE WOOD IN THE SUN, let it dry in the shade, I learned the hard way because if it gets to hot it wil bubble up and you'll have to sand it down with steal wool and start over again.


When you say let it soak in RIT dye do you mean paint it on like a stain and leave it there for 12 hours, are are you telling me to fill a pan or bucket or something with rit dye and leave all the wood in there overnight?
9/19/2008 4:54:13 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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 Man i love the look of the stock after you refinished it. Would like to know what you used. I already did the battlefield look & polished my bolt about a year ago.


Thanks, but I can't take all the credit for the wood, I copied what Loki did.

1. First you need to sand the wood til its almost white and you see all the wood grain.
2. I put 3 or 4 coats of red mahogany minwax stain, then let it dry for a day.
3. I let it soak in RIT clothing dye (Scarlet Red) for about 12 hours.
4. Let it dry for atleast 2 days, depending on the weather it took mine 3 or 4 because of high humidity.
5. Then when I finally got some less humid weather, I put clear semi-gloss laquer on, I applied a couple coats, let it dry then rubed it smooth with steal wool, then applied a couple more coats and so on until i was happy with it.

PS when it comes to drying the laquer DON'T PUT THE WOOD IN THE SUN, let it dry in the shade, I learned the hard way because if it gets to hot it wil bubble up and you'll have to sand it down with steal wool and start over again.


When you say let it soak in RIT dye do you mean paint it on like a stain and leave it there for 12 hours, are are you telling me to fill a pan or bucket or something with rit dye and leave all the wood in there overnight?



I let mine soak overnight.  Most just paint it on, but I wanted mine to soak in good.  I had to let it dry for a longer time than if I'd just painted on, it took 5 days for the stock to shrink down enough to get it back into the reciever.  And I tried to put the gas tube cover on before it completely dried, and it split, had to order a new one.

I've found if you paint it on, you get more of a light red, almost pink color.  Soaking it for about 12 hours gives you the blood red
9/19/2008 7:23:31 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

I let mine soak overnight.  Most just paint it on, but I wanted mine to soak in good.  I had to let it dry for a longer time than if I'd just painted on, it took 5 days for the stock to shrink down enough to get it back into the reciever.  And I tried to put the gas tube cover on before it completely dried, and it split, had to order a new one.

I've found if you paint it on, you get more of a light red, almost pink color.  Soaking it for about 12 hours gives you the blood red


You need multiple bottle of the dye then don't you? What kind of container did you use to soak it in? I'm assuming you let it dry for multiple days before you put the polyurethane/varnish on it? And did you let the stain dry for a day or so before you soaked it in the Rit Dye too?
9/19/2008 10:00:31 PM EDT
[#21]

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I let mine soak overnight.  Most just paint it on, but I wanted mine to soak in good.  I had to let it dry for a longer time than if I'd just painted on, it took 5 days for the stock to shrink down enough to get it back into the reciever.  And I tried to put the gas tube cover on before it completely dried, and it split, had to order a new one.

I've found if you paint it on, you get more of a light red, almost pink color.  Soaking it for about 12 hours gives you the blood red


You need multiple bottle of the dye then don't you? What kind of container did you use to soak it in? I'm assuming you let it dry for multiple days before you put the polyurethane/varnish on it? And did you let the stain dry for a day or so before you soaked it in the Rit Dye too?


Yes I used two bottles of scarlet red and that wasn't enough so I filled one of the bottles up with hot water and mixed it in.  I used a big aluminum disposable grilling pan from walmart.  Yes I waited a couple days after the stain was applied and when it was dry then I soaked it in dye, fliping it over and stiring up the dye every couple hours, to let the dye set in evenly.  It took 4 or 5 days to dry, then it will look a really dark red but after a couple light coats of semi-gloss clear laquer it will shine blood red.  Lightly smooth it out with some steal wool before the laquer.
9/19/2008 10:13:49 PM EDT
[#22]

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put a dark red bakelite grip on that baby ;).



I ended up doing that, the picture on the website I got it from looked blood red but they sent me a darker red one.
9/21/2008 3:13:13 PM EDT
[#23]
Some more we took today:






Anybody else that refinishes their WASR, post it.  I like seeing the WASR all dressed up.
9/21/2008 3:50:59 PM EDT
[#24]


Anybody else that refinishes their WASR, post it.  I like seeing the WASR all dressed up.


I helped refinish my brother in law's WASR that way too, I'll see if I can get some pic's up this week of his
9/21/2008 4:07:30 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm in the midst of refinishing mine right now. I'm giving the stain some more time to dry, after work tomorrow I'm going to soak it in the RIT dye. I'm taking tons of pics along the way. So far there it's very dark brown.
9/21/2008 4:21:58 PM EDT
[#26]
If you want an example of brushing the RIT on, Versus soaking it overnight, my pics with the regular front handguard are soaked overnight, the verticle foregrip is the result of the "brush-on" method.  When I get the motivation, I'm going to strip the varnish from the foregrip, and soak it, too.
9/21/2008 4:55:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Mine-

Before:



After






The wood work was done by team member "Dings", he did a very nice job!!!


9/21/2008 5:12:45 PM EDT
[#28]

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Anybody else that refinishes their WASR, post it.  I like seeing the WASR all dressed up.


More of the same WASR that I posted a pic of earlier in the thread-









It's the one in the middle of the photo along with the rest of the family.... The AK on the far right is a WASR I refinished as well. It was the first one I refinished and didn't turn out quite as well as my second (learned from my mistakes).-

9/21/2008 5:45:51 PM EDT
[#29]
The wood one the side-folder is nice, Bullseye.  What color did you use?
9/21/2008 5:52:53 PM EDT
[#30]

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The wood one the side-folder is nice, Bullseye.  What color did you use?


The wood on the SAR-1s that Century sold in the late '90s/early 2000s came finished already. I took the buttstock off and added the side-folder, but kept the bulged forward handguards.

I don't know what type of stain they used, but it's a medium brown color, and the finish looks to be varnish or something of that nature.

Just wish they would have come with threaded muzzles. I might have to get a hold of a die set-up one of these days and add a slant break to that SAR-1...


ETA: Here's a closer look-



9/21/2008 6:20:26 PM EDT
[#31]
SAR-1 looks nice.  Looks well-used!  I see some dulling and pitting on the reciever side of the lower hand guard.  Heat from a bit of shooting!  Mines getting that way.  I don't shoot her near as much as I'd like.
9/21/2008 6:45:58 PM EDT
[#32]

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SAR-1 looks nice.  Looks well-used!  I see some dulling and pitting on the reciever side of the lower hand guard.  Heat from a bit of shooting!  Mines getting that way.  I don't shoot her near as much as I'd like.


That's my first AK. I bought it used off the EE. I don't shoot it too much anymore, the solid stock WASRs with the slant breaks get most of the few rounds I can still afford to fire off put through them.


I got the SAR1 back when ammo was still relatively cheap. Didn't stock up nearly as much as I should have. I did do a bit of bumpfiring with that rifle at an arfcom shoot though. Got the barrel so hot it would burn skin (which I found out first hand...). The handguards were hot enough to be uncomfortable to hold without a glove. You wouldn't think it, but after about 120 rounds (all I bumpfired through it) over the course of a few minutes that thing will start smokin'.


Bumpfiring was fun to try once. Ammo is over twice as expensive now though so I probably won't be doing it again...but I won't say never...
9/22/2008 9:26:47 AM EDT
[#33]

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If you want an example of brushing the RIT on, Versus soaking it overnight, my pics with the regular front handguard are soaked overnight, the verticle foregrip is the result of the "brush-on" method.  When I get the motivation, I'm going to strip the varnish from the foregrip, and soak it, too.


I'm still trying to decide if I should sand it before I let it soak overnight. I was told steel wool but I don't know if it's really needed or not.
9/22/2008 2:06:09 PM EDT
[#34]
I decided to just let it soak. Also, as an FYI I came up with a sort of almost really good idea.  I filled the empty RIT bottles up with rocks so they would have some weight, then put them in the dye with the wood in an attempt to displace more of the fluid and see if I could completely submerse the wood. It worked but didn't get it completely submersed so I'm still gonna have to flip it.
9/22/2008 3:41:57 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I decided to just let it soak. Also, as an FYI I came up with a sort of almost really good idea.  I filled the empty RIT bottles up with rocks so they would have some weight, then put them in the dye with the wood in an attempt to displace more of the fluid and see if I could completely submerse the wood. It worked but didn't get it completely submersed so I'm still gonna have to flip it.



I weighted the wood down to keep it under.
9/22/2008 3:48:31 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I decided to just let it soak. Also, as an FYI I came up with a sort of almost really good idea.  I filled the empty RIT bottles up with rocks so they would have some weight, then put them in the dye with the wood in an attempt to displace more of the fluid and see if I could completely submerse the wood. It worked but didn't get it completely submersed so I'm still gonna have to flip it.



I weighted the wood down to keep it under.


I didn't have enough liquid in the serving pan to cover the wood completely is what I mean. I still don't. I'm considering adding water to it but I think this will work out fine because it seems to be doing ok so far.
9/22/2008 6:22:07 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I decided to just let it soak. Also, as an FYI I came up with a sort of almost really good idea.  I filled the empty RIT bottles up with rocks so they would have some weight, then put them in the dye with the wood in an attempt to displace more of the fluid and see if I could completely submerse the wood. It worked but didn't get it completely submersed so I'm still gonna have to flip it.



I weighted the wood down to keep it under.


I didn't have enough liquid in the serving pan to cover the wood completely is what I mean. I still don't. I'm considering adding water to it but I think this will work out fine because it seems to be doing ok so far.



I used 2 bottels dye and another bottle of water to cover the wood.  The water didn't thin the dye enough to make any difference.
9/23/2008 10:02:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Does anyone know how to go about re-finishing the metal on a WASR (or any AK for that matter)?  The paint/finish on mine is kinda dull and has some scratches on it.  I just want to give it a nice solid black finish with a slight slight gloss to it...  I don't even care if the internals are re-done.  Any ideas?  I've heard about some sort of paint you can bake on or something.  Please anything is helpful, I know absolutely nothing about this type of work!
10/5/2008 1:34:05 PM EDT
[#40]
I finished my staining and polyurethane job with the gun some time early last week and I basically let it set for a few days to make sure it properly dried. I took it to the range this past Friday which meant excellent lighting and therefore awesome pictures of the stain.

The gunsf rom top to bottom are, my refinished WASR-10/63, my friend's WASR-10/63 as it arrived from the dealer, and my other friend's SAR-1 with the finish it had on it.



Because my friend's WASR is unfinished these next two can almost serve as a before and after picture.




And here is a nice picture of the handguards that really shows off the red.

10/5/2008 3:44:02 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I finished my staining and polyurethane job with the gun some time early last week and I basically let it set for a few days to make sure it properly dried. I took it to the range this past Friday which meant excellent lighting and therefore awesome pictures of the stain.

The gunsf rom top to bottom are, my refinished WASR-10/63, my friend's WASR-10/63 as it arrived from the dealer, and my other friend's SAR-1 with the finish it had on it.

jesse.mrozowski.com/photos/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13186&g2_serialNumber=2

Because my friend's WASR is unfinished these next two can almost serve as a before and after picture.
jesse.mrozowski.com/photos/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13191&g2_serialNumber=2

jesse.mrozowski.com/photos/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=12970&g2_serialNumber=2

And here is a nice picture of the handguards that really shows off the red.

jesse.mrozowski.com/photos/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13241&g2_serialNumber=2




Awesome!  Good job.  Now polish that charging handle!
11/4/2008 2:15:20 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Does anyone know how to go about re-finishing the metal on a WASR (or any AK for that matter)?  The paint/finish on mine is kinda dull and has some scratches on it.  I just want to give it a nice solid black finish with a slight slight gloss to it...  I don't even care if the internals are re-done.  Any ideas?  I've heard about some sort of paint you can bake on or something.  Please anything is helpful, I know absolutely nothing about this type of work!


+1

Anyone?

11/4/2008 3:06:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does anyone know how to go about re-finishing the metal on a WASR (or any AK for that matter)?  The paint/finish on mine is kinda dull and has some scratches on it.  I just want to give it a nice solid black finish with a slight slight gloss to it...  I don't even care if the internals are re-done.  Any ideas?  I've heard about some sort of paint you can bake on or something.  Please anything is helpful, I know absolutely nothing about this type of work!


+1

Anyone?

Quick and dirty?

Strip the gun, sand the finish down, degrease WELL, paint with high-heat black engine paint.



11/6/2008 4:44:00 PM EDT
[#44]
damnnn im really impressed by that red finish, i did up mine w all tapco plastic furniture and flashlight and red dot and vertical stock, it looks tactical and bad ass..but this looks like a much more fun fulfilling project though cause its more than just swapping parts.. im going to go with wood grain next..thanks for the inspiration
1/11/2009 5:01:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Great instructions, will try to do to mine.

BTR
1/15/2009 1:11:43 AM EDT
[#46]
Awesome! Romanian laminated furniture looks great with the red. Ugly Betty is now a centerfold.
Her's an SAR1 of mine with red that a friend did for me.

1/17/2009 12:57:10 PM EDT
[#47]
finally finished mine.
polished the charging handle
was gonna paint her, but decided on the weathered look for the metal parts
followed loki, and tarheel_johns methods (THANKS!)
only thing changed was i used red oak stain not red mahogany
and for the rit dye portion, i used 2 bottles of scarlett red and 1 bottle of rit's wine color, plus 2 parts water.
im happy with the outcome, thanks again for the info on how to rock the furniture fellas!

before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/geakoner/wasrog.jpg

after
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/geakoner/wasrredo2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/geakoner/wasrredo1.jpg
1/18/2009 4:56:32 PM EDT
[#48]
Looks good you guys, I haven't looked at this forum in awhile, I'm glad to see all the new projects, its to cold in the winter here to do any wood refinishing, so I can't wait till the end of spring and I'll start some new projects of my own.  I'm looking for a fixed wood stock Bulgy 74 and if I find one I'm going to stain it red just like my WASR
2/4/2009 1:23:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Anybody else that refinishes their WASR, post it.  I like seeing the WASR all dressed up.


I helped refinish my brother in law's WASR that way too, I'll see if I can get some pic's up this week of his


I just finished mine. Here are some pics:







2/5/2009 5:30:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Ago-Fidelis and stevedrk008, those are some good jobs.
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