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Posted: 7/12/2008 6:48:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/12/2008 7:00:09 PM EDT by whitetailnut]
I got this with a 7.62x39 POLYTECH rifle I purchased Thursday. The black mag is a Bulgarian 30 rnd waffle. Any idea who makes it and what its worth?




Link Posted: 7/12/2008 7:17:23 PM EDT
Chinese Maybe? Seen some like that plus they use that plastic for SKS and AK stocks also..not sure
Link Posted: 7/12/2008 8:09:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/12/2008 8:15:05 PM EDT
Definately a Bulgarian 45rd magazine for the 5.45x39mm. Some say they're actually Russian without the Molot factory "star in the shield" mold logo that's usually located on the lower right side with the Russian versions. From the last photo, it looks like yours might not have the "empty circle" mold that's common to the Bulgarians. If that's the case, it's probably worth a bit more to a collector.

Good score, regardless (but as you know, it won't work with your Polytech rifle that's in 7.62x39mm!)
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 3:17:14 AM EDT
Is the 5.45x39 case bigger than a 5.56? This clip will not hold a 5.56 case. I measured the distance between the feedlips with a set of calipers and they are the same as the Bulgarian 30 rounder pictured. The mag appears that it will work with the 7.62x39. The top dimensions of the clip are indentical. It has not been neutered in any way.
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 9:44:43 AM EDT
How many rounds of 7.62 does it hold?
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 10:55:16 AM EDT
To me, the curvature of that mag looks wrong for 5.45.
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 3:44:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/13/2008 3:49:26 PM EDT by timb3]
It looks like a bakelite 7.62x39 mag. - It's too curved to be a 5.45.

Lots of the 5.45 bakelites were made in east germany, but I don't know about 7.62 ones from there. Could be russian, maybe. I can't read the markings on the mag. Can you get a clearer picture of them?

Someone will be along shortly who will know for sure.


- Edited to add: Those bakelites really suck. You won't be able to get much for it. - Tell ya what, just go ahead and send it to me for proper disposal.

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Just kidding. You'll get a good price for it, 'cause they're rare in 7.62.
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 3:49:06 PM EDT
My vote is Bulgarian 7.62X39...... To much curve for 5.45X39......
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 5:05:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/13/2008 5:07:05 PM EDT by whitetailnut]
I have some more pics and some more info. This clip will hold 40 rnds of 7.62x39. I have not tried to see how it will run in the polytech because to be honest this is probaly the first rounds ever loaded in this magazine! The only markings are a 1 on one side near the bottom and some ink stampings that I can not make out.






I am hoping it is one of these.
www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102595643#PIC

Link Posted: 7/13/2008 5:19:29 PM EDT
hey whitetrailnut, that is a very rare very awesome magazine. Its 7.62 without a doubt...you can tell by the curve... i just saw one at a gunshow in michigan going for $99.99. That is one awesome bonus you got with your rifle
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 5:24:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By whitetailnut:

I am hoping it is one of these.
www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102595643#PIC




Link Posted: 7/13/2008 5:44:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/13/2008 5:47:24 PM EDT by whitetailnut]
I googled 7.62x39 40 rnd bakelite and this is what I came up with. I can find no info whatsoever on a Bakelite 40 rnd 7.62x39 magazine- RUSSIAN, BULGARIAN, CHINESE or anything for that matter. Can anyone show me where someone sold or has a bulgarian "or any other manufacturer" 40 rnd 7.62x39 bakelite mag. I just am trying to figure out if there are other makes out there.


kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/board5/messages/5162.html

Read the reply I found that very interesting.
Link Posted: 7/13/2008 7:29:13 PM EDT
Awesome - I can see the photos much better now. You most definately have what appears to be a Russian 40rd bakelite magazine in 7.62x39mm. Congratulations on finding quite a rare bird. I've got three myself and they certainly are neat.

A fellow member recently sold both of his on Gunbroker and the wolves fought fiercly over them:

Here's one:


And the other:


It's quite an unusual magazine - definately one to hold on to for a while. It would seem those last two auctions kind of set the stage for them in terms of worth since there's no other way to compare.


Link Posted: 7/14/2008 12:37:35 PM EDT
Well I guess I need to decide if I want to sell it or keep it. I didn't have a clue what it was worth when I bought the gun it was just an added bonus. If I could sell for that kind of money I would only have $600 in a polytech side folder. I'll never use it now that I know what its worth!
Link Posted: 7/14/2008 8:36:19 PM EDT
Put it up on an auction - it'll definately sell to the collectors. Probably helped to offset your rifle purchase by quite a bit depending on how the auction goes.
Link Posted: 7/14/2008 11:37:46 PM EDT
I'd keep it. You didn't expect to get something rare and valuable with the purchase of the gun, so you're that much more ahead.

You have something unique you claim bragging rights to and show off, and if worse comes to worse, it becomes a decent rainy day fund the minute you put it up for sale on the internet.
Link Posted: 7/17/2008 6:30:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/17/2008 10:13:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 11:32:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/19/2008 11:36:07 PM EDT by retroangles]
My Bulgarian 45rnd 5.45 mags have damn near the same ink stamp (series of numbers). From what I understand 45rnd Bulgarian Bakelite mags were MFG in Russia, then exported to Bulgaria. If so, same might go for that mag, based on the stamp. Just because the Gunbroker auction listed it as a Russian mag doesn't guarantee it is one. Either way you look at it, it is still quite rare. Sell if you need the cash, hang on to it if you don't...
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:25:02 AM EDT
For the prices that those auctions got, it would have been sold the same day I received it. It really boils down to personal approach and every ones will be different. I would have sold it and purchased items that were more "usable" and conducive to my interests.
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 3:31:53 PM EDT
Thats friggin awesome!!
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