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Posted: 4/10/2004 10:36:54 AM EDT
| How many of you guys use a buffer in your AKs? Plain and simple. |
Actually they fire those quite a bit into the air on about any occasion worth the slightest celebration, that and they engage in sort of ritualistic "gun battles" with rival tribes in which their intent is to shoot as much as possible without hitting anyone. That last part I read about in National Geographic, so it's not a mere stereotype, it's a real tradition. Anyway, if the Russians or the Bulgarians or even the Romanians made an AK-buffer I would take a look at the idea, but since none of those heavy AK-users/builders consider it neccesary I don't either. |
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In my SAR-1 I use a home made buffer cut from a sheet of 1/2" hard rubber I've had hanging in my barn for years...., it works awesome!! I can't imagine a factory made Buffer could work any better!! Way....less violent cycling & felt recoil!! I have an SAR-2 and a SEAK on the way & plan to make one for both of them too.., even though the 5.45 has minimal recoil, the buffer should help keep the gun from beating itself silly over time. AK actions really beating take a beating from their violent cycling, especially stamped ones!!!!! At least..., "That's the rumor!!!" RU4FREEDOM -- out |
I think CampyBoB said it best in a previous thread about buffers.
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 Make your own. Mine are made out of soft rubber and have well north of 2000 rounds with no wear. Black Jack buffers are a waste of money. The black one pictured was all but destroyed in 300 rounds. Plastic is to brittle IMHO. Never had a malfunction and they do cut down on recoil. (7.62) |
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I suspect those 30 year old AK's are carried much and fired little. dude, they abuse their kalashnikovs more at wedding ceremonies than you do at the range. are you forgetting that since 1978, afghanistan has been the site of nearly constant warfare and revolutionary fighting? hell, pashtoons think nothing of killing you over a perceived insult. there are drug lords, warlords, bandits and paramilitary outfits out the ying yang shooting at each other nearly every damned day. a kalashnikov is as essential as any piece of clothing the locals wear! shot little? tell that to the russians. they spent 10 years staring down their own gun barrels. you may find guns that are shot very little in ohio. in the middle east, the vast majority of them have seen plenty of use and abuse. |
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I can't say for sure what hits what when a AK cycles..., but I can tell you that with my home made buffer my SAR-1 cycles, sounds & feel a whole smoother!!! The only way you can tell is to try one. If you don't like it.., toss it!! To me, the worst thing about Buffers is the price, although I would never buy one. They are too easy to make!! If someone can tell me how to post a pic on this site, I'll post one of my home brew buffer. RU4FREEDOM -- out |
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Find a picture hosting website, such as ImageStation.com to upload your picture to. Once it is uploaded to that website, go to it and click on it and it will expand it a bit in a new window. Next, right-click on the picture, go to Properties, and highlight the entire line next to Address(URL). Right-click on the highlighted line(s) and click Copy. Next come to your post on AR15.com. To insert an image, do this. Type [i m g](Right-click, paste URL here)[/i m g]. Make sure you remove the spaces before you type the "img" part though.  Try it and see if it works. It might take a few tries to get it down straight. Edited to add: If ImageStation.com does not work (and it sometimes doesn't), try Hunt101.com for another free source to upload your pictures to. If I think of some others I will add them to the list here. |
It sure as hell aint some mysterious force keeping the bolt carrior from smacking you in the face.......its the rear trunion. Every AK I've seen has an imprint on the trunion from the carrior smacking it. Dont take my word for it.....stick your pinky in there and touch off a round. 
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Does anyone have a link to or copy of this video? I think I have seen it before but I would like to see it again. Thanks! |
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www.x-plane.org/users/eder/Kalashnikov.zip God bless free hosting, hotlinking, and unlimited badwidth 
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Thanks! And Amen brother! |
That, my friend, was bad-ass. Gracias!
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Of course experience gained over the course of 50 years of hard military use is not nearly as accurate as your backyard testing. The recent use of AKs by Arabs and Afghans in the past twenty to thirty years has also failed to meet your range standards. The Afghans are just a bunch of gun toters. The military and the arabs don't need buffers because they carry their AKs. They don't fire them. But HeavyMetal needs a buffer because he is a real Operator. |
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Bulgarians did lots of Ak testing... One range gun lasted over 300,000 rounds before a 'failiure' (this could be anything, including bad extractor! not necessarily a KB). I also remember reading about a torture test (also Bulgarian Arsenal). With an AK clamed in place asto keep it from moving. They fed it ammo continuously. About half way through the test, they stopped to open it up and clear out brass chips (the gun worked fine, just alot of crap inside it). They ended up giving up after firing something like 86,000 rounds (Yes, eighty six thousand). If all the militaries of the world, and the torture testers agree that you don't need a buffer, I don't need one! It's pure redundancy, invented by the people making the buffers. |
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Well I`ll be a sinner and say that I have buffers in three out of four AK`s. Guns with buffer installed 1. Polytech Legends Underfolder 7.62x39 2. Gordontech SLR100H 7.62x39 3. SAR 1 7.62x39 Gun without 1. SAR2 5.45x39 (finally got the 74 brake on it!) Reason my SAR2 doesn`t have on is because it actually increased recoil! So I decided to pull it. An I`m not 100% I`d replace them in my 7.62x39 guns after their worn out. And I used to be a big buffer guy! I`ve tried buffers in other guns, 1.Mini14, it wouldn`t fit my style of Mini, cause it was the older style. My Mini14 has the GB and factory folder BTW. 2.M1A , It did fit but would turn a perfectly reliable gun in one that wouldn`t feed all the time. 3.HK91 clone, turned a bad clone worse! The gun cycled ok before but not after the buffer. 4.Ruger 10/22, Well Believe it or Not this one seems to let the gun work properly. No problems here! |
I've had the same experience with a white BufferTech buffer. I do have a thinner Blackjack buffer that does work, but I don't really see much benefit. Another of my AK clones without a buffer and with like 5000 rounds through it doesn't really show any peening of the carrier tail or the rear trunnion. JMO, Noah |
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